Here we go... round 7.

Once again, it's okay to post pics, just don't repost them when you reply... slows things down... other than that, it's been great!

FIRST! YES!!

Number23 said:

Oh, and he's innocent, by the way. Pretty obvious to anyone who thinks, words and thoughts and stuff, linking them, coming to conclusions with personal perception of truth...

Number23 said:

But he does need a good shag and to be flung about a room for a few hours. And no more sleepovers or surgery.

Number23 said:

And no more war medal neck ties. My grandpa got shot in the hand for one of those.

I've got one of your Grandpa's hands.

AW MAN! Look at this shit....


from latimes.com

Jackson Fans Render Their Own Verdict
A weekend rally blends support for the singer with expressions of anger at prosecutors.
By Steve Chawkins
Times Staff Writer

April 3, 2005
SANTA MARIA — It took only 10 slaps to split open the Tom Sneddon piñata strung up Saturday on a pepper tree at a local park.

Cheers went up, hard candies and Tootsie Rolls came down and a few Michael Jackson fans scrambled for the loot cascading onto the lawn. If the child-molestation case against their hero collapses as quickly as the effigy of his chief prosecutor, justice will, indeed, be sweet.

But the several hundred fans expected for the Many Nations, One Voice rally, which started Friday and is to continue through Monday morning, know all too well that Jackson is engaged in the fight of his life. And although they are quick to point out that they are driven only by love, quite a few are also downright angry.

From chat rooms to courtrooms to candlelight vigils, outraged fans sound variations on the theme offered at the rally: Jackson is being railroaded.

"Obviously, they're fairly upset," said Michael Jackson Fan Club president Deborah Dannelly, a legal assistant from Corpus Christi, Texas, who organized the rally. "It's a difficult time."

On Saturday, a couple of dozen fans gathered at a park pavilion to make posters for their Monday morning march, arrange for rides to a candlelight vigil at Jackson's Neverland ranch and smash the daylights out of an Incredible Hulk piñata whose face was a photograph of Sneddon, the Santa Barbara County district attorney.

Vernay Lewis, one of Dannelly's 14 volunteer assistants at the fan club, reminded the group that Jackson fans recognize Sneddon as "a child of God" and then invited the piñata smashers to step forward.

Blindfolded with a purple silk scarf, they walloped the Sneddon stand-in mercilessly. Seany O'Kane, a 23-year-old Irishman living in Liverpool, struck the coup de prosecutor.

"I'm a big fan of justice," he said. "At the very end of all this, when Michael is acquitted, there will be all these people who will say they knew he was innocent all along. Well, I ask you, where are they now?"

Some of Jackson's supporters have few kind words for journalists, whom many tend to see as uncharged co-conspirators in a plot to bring the pop star down.

At the gates of Neverland one afternoon last week, a wary fan ended an interview moments after it started by trying to rip a reporter's notebook from his hands.

"Give me my words back!" she screamed. "I want my words back!"

Early the next morning, three young women who had flown in from Germany were standing at a corner that Jackson's convoy would glide by on the way to court. They carried a doll with a photo of Sneddon pasted to its face and the letters KKK stitched onto its striped prison outfit. They unfurled a large German flag on which they had lettered: "Germany loves and supports you — you'll never walk alone."

Although their props were eye-popping, their lips were sealed. They wouldn't talk to a reporter, beyond explaining that the words of fans had been too often twisted to make both them and Jackson look weird.

"We're not here to do interviews," one of them said. "We're here to support Michael."

Jackson has attracted millions of fans with his chart-busting songs and elastic dance moves. Even in jury selection for his current trial, a number of prospective jurors talked fondly about how much they enjoyed his music.

Early on, the pop star's support was a lot louder, with hundreds of Jackson's supporters massing in Santa Maria for several significant pretrial hearings.

For Jackson's Jan. 16 arraignment, the "convoy of love" bus flotilla had picked up fans at church parking lots throughout Los Angeles before dawn and taken them to the courthouse. After he was done in court that day, Jackson pleased the faithful by doing a few dance moves on top of his SUV.

Now the scene outside the courthouse is a study in serenity. Chatting groups of police officers outnumber the few fans who were unable to snag any of the courtroom's 50 seats reserved for the public.

Despite the low numbers in Santa Maria, Jackson's support has only increased, said Dannelly, who helped establish the Michael Jackson Fan Club in 1992.

Charges against Jackson have boosted membership to 17,000, she estimates — a jump of 20% to 30% in about a year. Hers is just one of numerous Jackson fan groups.

"A lot of people weren't members but have always had an inner liking for the artist," she said. "When something like this happens, they feel it's time to get up and speak. They want to be heard."

The weekend rally is guaranteed "massive media coverage," the club promises on its website. "The eyes of the world will be on Santa Maria — will you be there?"

Planned events include a fans' tribute to Jackson tonight and an Olympic-style procession to the courthouse Monday morning, with fans bearing their nations' flags.

Participants in the Monday event are urged to carry candles and wear white. Gold armbands — like Jackson's — will be provided.

Over the years, Jackson's fans have been famously loyal, with a few displaying their devotion in ways that even some other fans see as extreme.

Among the regulars at the courthouse are people who say they gave up jobs and dropped out of school to advance the Jackson cause. One woman, who was rushed to a hospital after fainting at the courthouse earlier this month, said she has been celibate for years as a personal show of faith in Jackson.

Of course, most of the fans converging on Santa Maria choose less dramatic actions, staying on hand for days instead of months.

"The people that move here? They've got issues," said Lisa Marie Flores, a 21-year-old dog groomer from Clovis, Calif.

"I've heard them refer to Michael as Jesus Christ. That bothers me."

Flores and her friend Stellanie Saunders, a media student from Queens College in New York, were among those gathered at the gates of Neverland for Jackson's return from court one afternoon last week.

Saunders, 21, was delighted when Jackson rolled down the window of his SUV and complimented her on her choice of pocketbook and cellphone case, both from a line of products called Baby Phat.

"He's so humble and so loving," Saunders said. "He talks to us like we're family."

In court, no interchange is permitted between Jackson and his admirers.

Fans start showing up at 6 a.m. for a seat in court. Those who don't get in remain behind police barriers, chanting and cheering at the sight of Jackson and his attorneys but otherwise sitting for hours on beach chairs or on the pavement.

Now and then, chants are aimed at prosecutors.

"Leave him alone!" the fans demand.

Or they recite a couplet unlikely to be heard at the trial of any other alleged child molester: "It's cold, cold, cold out here. Must be a liar in the atmosphere."

There also are simple statements of support, like the lilting rendition of a standard cry offered by a Nigerian woman in a pink muumuu: "The King of the Pop is inn-o-cent," she yelled, with others following suit.

One regular carries a sign about Sony, suggesting that the multinational entertainment company is conspiring to ruin Jackson. The company wants Jackson's lucrative share of rights to songs by the Beatles, or so the theory goes.

However Jackson's troubles came to pass, many fans say they're trying to help him as he has helped them. Bad relationships, severe illness, even molestation: Fans have had their problems, and some say Jackson has pulled them through.

A 29-year-old woman in a black felt hat said that since January, she has twice flown from Scotland to spend a week at a time in Santa Maria.

After she goes home, she said, she'll scrape together more money from her job with a caterer, and she'll be back.

"It's a hard thing to balance your career and Michael," said the woman, who has Jackson's name and dancing feet tattooed on her shoulder.

SquarePeg said:

... now I REALLY see why I don't go to fan-boards anymore.

squiddyren said:

So what are you doing here?

Cloudbuster said:

Well, I meant outside MJ fan-boards, not threads at prince.org where at least the fans are halfway sane.

squiddyren said:

Boy, you can really tell when the press has fuck all to write about, huh?

Somefuckheadreporter said:

In his next shocking exposé, Mr. Mollow will inform us that celebrities often project an "image" for their "public" - they may not be what you perceive.

True. Kylie's into scat.

Cloudbuster said:

True. She came over last night, and I was all, "What the fuck are you doing ". So we played tiddlywinks.

on thread VI

Luv4oneanotha said:

When in the hell did Queen Latifah say this?

VoicesCarry said:

lilgish said:

Sounds like Chris Rock, not Queen Latifah.

VoicesCarry said:

check the last court thread, Luv4 said it was Latifah.

lilgish said:

I know, it just sounds like something Chris would say.

I've never heard Queen Latifah talk like that.

VoicesCarry said:

Yea, it sounds a bit to witty for her

I forget what magazine i read that in lol
i think it was Vibe

I remember Latifah being mad that Prince performed with Beyounce,( i can never spell that right)
i believe she also said "Baby im a sell out"

Hmmmm... "Children over the age of 6 seldom fabricate stories about abuse" he says? Eeew? That must explain why hundreds of high-school teachers each year get sued for sexual harassement on false grounds. Does this mean "children" over the age of, say, 18 or 25 never make up such stories either? Or is he just simply trying to imply that there is a cerain age gap between the age of 6 and becoming legally adult when human beings are so categorically innocent that they aren't capable of making allegations?



It's sometimes for us Europeans hard to understand that there is almost a somewhat of a "you harassed me!"-culture in the United States (much like how bribes are considered part of how the markets work in the Eastern Europe). A very large percentage of americans just seem to lack the modesty. Someone mistreated you - it's okay to file a sexual harassement suit on them because they deserve it. The sums they've gotten in the settlements alone are ridiculous anyway. Now, I'm still not 100% sure that Michael Jackson is innocent but the power of accusation is mind-boggling.

And when he said "Have you seen the boy? He looked gorgeous!" when discussing the '93 case he sounded like he wanted to do the kid himself.

Im feeling ya. I also have hard times understanding the "american way of thinking" Where are you from? Eastern Europe? I am from Central Europe.

WESTERN EUROPE

In da house!

Novabreaker said:

Also, I don't think this argument is very useful here, since a lot of money is an issue in this case.

check this video out! http://www.thejusticesystem.net/

The SONY/ATV catalogue conspiracy is up and running. Names are actually mentioned.

Marrk said:

dude that shit is so fake. Mike is the insider.

lilgish said:

Explain how it's fake and how you know that. I was very surprised to hear Bret Ratner's name read out.

Marrk said:

I don’t know if it’s fake, but I’m surmising from these clues.

She’s say "details" on the case, yet gives none.

Her informant says “to fans around the world.” who says that but Michael?

“A watchful eye”, the energy sending eye Mike is obsessed with (see History vid, invincible cover)

Every Op-ed article is Pro Mike.

His father wrote an article on the site.

I read the site, because MJ boards are always posting links, but I don’t believe there’s an inside source.

What does Brett Ratner have to do with Sony Music????? I think Mike just put his name there because they either had a falling out or he won’t testify about the kids rude behavior.

Let’s see what happens.