mynameisnotsusan said:

I agree,and I'm getting kinda bored with Whitney and her constant drug problems.There are ways to get help,she just has to be willing to do the work.

sosgemini said:

(money hungry rehab companies ) You make it sound as if the rehab is forcing people into their gates or running some sort of con. Whitney got herself into a drug situation and the first step to get out is to take responbilty for her actions.

I can't believe anyone would be for unlimited crack abuse in this day and age.

Bobby and Bobbi Kristina at her recent birthday party... she just turned 12.

sosgemini said:

And how likely is that? Especially with such a high profile person. Even if Whitney wasn't famous, there's no way her addictions would have no effect on those around her.

I would love to see Whitney get her act together and get off drugs. She has such a great voice and seemed like such a fun, happy person until drugs ruined her. She still has a chance to get clean and start making music again and I wish her all the best. I look forward to the day when she's making great music and sounding amazing again.

Why won't Bobby release a new album?

lilgish said:

Thank you.

Whitney has an addiction, and for those of you fortunate not to have one, to assume she's doing drugs for shits and giggles and call her out her name is wrong. I think (hope and pray) she will make it out of this, but she gotta let Bobby go first. Much love Whitney.

JackieBlue said:

Dayum, she looks like her old man!

laurarichardson said:

forcing people? courts do it all the time.....

cant believe? if people want to slowly kill themselves, as long as they arent harming others...why not?

sosgemini said:

Show me a drug addict who doesn't wind up harming others?

CinisterCee said:

i agree rehab programs should be available....i just dont agree with the american approach of rehab...europe seems to have a lot more realistic approach that promotes responsibility over abstinence...

i think the name "crack ho" is way too harsh and stereotypical.

"junkie" would have been much better. either way, i hope this time she stays in

rehab for good.
[Edited 3/24/05 9:57am]

CherrieMoonKisses said:

ok....that's fair. I usaully use the words hand-in-hand.

A girl I used to go out with was obsessed with starting arguements about how Bobby ruined Whitney's career. Bobby was doing drugs in the 80's. Whitney knew what she was getting herself in for. As corny as it sounds but they really must love each other.

thesexofit said:

Sounds more like they're both complete self-destructive idiots.

? MAybe, but as we know, Whitney stroking Bobbys already big ego by calling him the king of rnb doesn't help matters either.

U could argue (as pointless as it is now) that without Whitney, Bobby coulda had a longer career.

thesexofit said:

Two users found each other. I don't think he would have had a longer career without her, but she would certainly have had a longer career if it weren't for him.

Bobby had alot more in him then what was shown. I know u can say that about anyone but his career was cut short thanx to drugs and ego. Whitney's career is odd. Those Power ballads got stale by around 1994/1995. People didn't want that shit anymore, which is why Mariah stopped doing them, boyz to men got smaller and Michael Bolton vanished. Celine survived but she is white. Whitney went all hood and became just like anyone else as she doesn't have songwriting input either. Her downfull was inevitabe with or without Bobby

thesexofit said:

How do you know that Bobby had so much in him - is that because you like him?

Whitney's best album was My Love Is Your Love, and it did well, spinning off about 4 major hits. Note that it was not a power ballad record. She could easily have continued down that path but instead turned into a full-time drug fiend. She does nothing else these days - doesn't sing, doesn't act, doesn't do anything. Her voice is shot.

So, yes, she would have had a longer career if she weren't with him (assuming that also means she wouldn't be a druggie).

Good point I guess. I like her dancey stuff best with Narada Michael Walden. Big fan of that producer.

But Bobby woulda been more focused without Whitney. His 1992 album still sold a couple of million. He woulda kept hooking up with BAbyface and Teddy Riley, who still had careers in the mid 90's. He woulda kept rolling. His crappy "forever" (1997) album was all about Whitney. Bloody Whitney.....
[Edited 3/24/05 10:54am]

thesexofit said:

Ah, they're both nuts. Fuck 'em.

Bobby was never anything close to a musical genius, anyway. I'm surprised he lasted to a second album.

Remember, Bobby had the bigger career when they met. Bobby was one of the biggests acts on the planet (or at least America) and Whitneys "baby tonight" album pretty much bombed (for her) and Bobby was outselling her on tour etc.....Bobby boosted her career by the time "bodyguard" sold a zillion copies. Bobby helped get her black audience back. Her black audience booed her ass at soul train awards.in 1989. After "my love is your love" her career went down as Bobby was now completely out the public eye.

Plus she was doing coke before she met bobby anyway. Her former boyfriend before Bobby was Dayrll Strawberry, who was a bigger cokehead then he was.

thesexofit said:

Yeah, I'm sure Whitney's entire career trajectory can be traced to Bobby getting her black audience back. Um, no.

thesexofit said:

Nothing you said here makes any sense.

I'm Your Baby Tonight - certified 4 times platinum, 3 top ten songs, 2 number one songs. Not a bomb by any stretch of the imagination, not even when compared to her previous albums.

Bobby's follow-up to Don't Be Cruel - relatively speaking - was a disappointment. It was certified 2 times platinum and yielded a few good singles. How did his big sales dip boost her career?

I said "baby tonight" was a flop by her standards. Anyway overall Whitney was doing more coke then Bobby ever was and proberly introduced Bobby to more coke and yes Whitney did Bobby's career more harm then good!

sosgemini said:

-----
They have a child so people are being hurt by their behavior and Whitney is not being sent to Rehab by any court and people who are sent by a court should consider themselves lucky that are not going to jail.

If you have every been around anyone on crack you would not make light of the situation It is a horrible drug.

Hi all,

Does this mean that the Reality show will be placed on hold?

Mutts

thesexofit said:

Sorry, I've never heard about any drug abuse before she met Bobby. You got a source or was this just through the Glenn Medeiros grapevine?

VinnyM27 said:

Seriously, though. I REALLY wish she would seek and STAY WITH some help for this. Such a waste of God-given talent.

I don't recall a significant dip in her sales in the UK, she always seemed to chart quite highly even for her later projects. Is it just cause she hasn't released anything in ages?

I'm sure she would still have hits if they manipulated her voice in the studio. Seeing as how it's now shot to pieces. Sad really. I'm not a fan particularly but i respected her voice.