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Thread started 03/17/05 8:28am

Trickology

Vic Wooten album has Rhonda and Bootsy on it!

Oh shit Vic sharing the light...

Grammy Award-winning bass player Victor Wooten will release his new CD Soul Circus on April 12th on Vanguard Records. Soul Circus is the Tennessee titan's fifth studio album, his debut release on Vanguard and his first solo release since 2001.

Fresh off sold-out tous with Bela Fleck & the Flecktones, Bass Extremes and his own headlining dates in 2004, Victor is now completely focused on his solo career with this remarkable new three-ring affair Soul Circus. The album boasts such guests as the Wooten brothers, Bootsy Collins, Arrested Deelopment rapper/vocalist Speech, legendary harmonica player Howard Levy, drummer Dennis Chambers (Parliament & Funkadelic), Flecktone Jeff Coffin, and a who's-who of bassists including Will Lee (Late Show with David Letterman), Rhonda Smith (Prince), acoustic bassist Christian McBride and many other special appearances.

The real ringmaster of Soul Circus, though, is the poinant collection of songs featuring: "Prayer" and the thought provokin, Prince-charged "Natives" which takes a look at our native American past. The epic "Bass Tribute" pays homage to the great thumpers of past and present. "On and On" is an instant soul classic. "Cell Phone" makes a chuckle-filled, cutting-edge connection. "Higher Law" stands as a stadium-ready, rock-funk protest anthem in the tradition of Sly Stone. "Back to India" curries up simmering musical flavors. And the hip hop/jazz title track marks the sonic coming-out of the long-rumored eight-armed character seen on the CD's cover and in the liner notes.

Victor Wooten has the rare ability to raise the bar and grow as an artist, and he's excited to have joined the Vanguard roster with the release of Soul Circus. He affirms, "Vanguard Records affords me the artistic freedom to move forward with my music."

Regaled as the most influential bassist since Jaco Pastorius, Wooten is best known for his solo recordings and tours, and as a member of the Grammy-winning supergroup, Bela Fleck & the Flecktones. He is an innovator on the bass guitar, as well as a talented composer, arranger, producer, vocalist and multi-instrumentalist. In addition, Wooten has won two Nashville Music Awards for Bassist of the Year and is the only three-time winner of Bass Player magazine's Bass Player of the Year.

The band's full line up on the road in support of Soul Circus will include Victor Wooten (bass/vocals), Regi Wooten (guitar/vocals), Joseph Wooten (keyboards/vocals), Derico Watson (drums/vocals), MC Divinity (bass/vocals) and Saundra Williams (vocals). JD Blair (drums/vocals) will be joing Victor after the March run.

Sounds like a doozy.
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Reply #1 posted 03/17/05 10:00am

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eek Damn!

Plus Regi is being unleashed on the planet. woot!

Be excited, be very excited. nod

Thanks for the info Trickology. wink


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Reply #2 posted 03/17/05 10:48am

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Very cool. Bootsy is my player, and Sir Dennis Chambers on skins, too?!
SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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Reply #3 posted 03/17/05 10:54am

Trickology

He put Christian Mcbride/Will Lee/Rhonda/Bootsy/
on the album. Thats bass game right there.

Vic is going for that acclaimed bass crossover album of the year title. I can tell just by the press release.
NPG is going to mention this album because of the Rhonda collab.

I got my tickets. Yo, why do I think the NPG band is gonna be at Vic's shows checking them?


Vic has planned this one.

I wonder if this album will get him on the Grammy award to perform.
Cuz its long overdue that the rest of the world get to see him on TV.
So many people don't even know the time...
Vic is for the chil'ren
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Reply #4 posted 03/17/05 11:22am

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i'll buy it!
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Reply #5 posted 03/17/05 12:13pm

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biggrin Lookin' forward to this one!!
" I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout
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Reply #6 posted 03/17/05 12:52pm

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theAudience said:

eek Damn!

Plus Regi is being unleashed on the planet. woot!

Be excited, be very excited. nod

Thanks for the info Trickology. wink


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peace Tribal Disorder

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woot! REGI!!
I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired!
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Reply #7 posted 03/18/05 8:49am

Trickology

You would think Prince would be on it. Vic came to the celebration to perform.
You would think Prince would want to be in the same room with Wooten Brothers.

Steve Parke told us on Amp that he hipped Prince to Vic Wooten.
Good Going Mr. Parke
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Reply #8 posted 03/18/05 10:11am

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I sure will buy it too!! Victor Wooten is mean and nasssttttaaayyyy!!!
Lennytunia
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Reply #9 posted 03/18/05 12:54pm

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bow Victor Wooten bow
Hey, Lennytunia. Long time, no see!
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Reply #10 posted 03/18/05 6:27pm

Trickology

Not to postjack but

David Ryan Harris is recording new versions of Soulstice?

Well alllright now"-in meatwad voice from Aqua Teen
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Reply #11 posted 03/18/05 8:23pm

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Trickology said:

Not to postjack but

David Ryan Harris is recording new versions of Soulstice?

Well alllright now"-in meatwad voice from Aqua Teen



I dig the current one, but if he wants to do it over, I'm down to check it out.
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Reply #12 posted 03/18/05 11:25pm

Trickology

You know what it is?

Its the few John Mayersque songs that John basically learned from David Ryan since he David was like a teacher to him. Thats what I think hinders him.

If he strays away from that, he will be get more recognition.
SoulStice is a good followup though.
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Reply #13 posted 03/19/05 2:24am

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Trickology said:

You know what it is?

Its the few John Mayersque songs that John basically learned from David Ryan since he David was like a teacher to him. Thats what I think hinders him.

If he strays away from that, he will be get more recognition.
SoulStice is a good followup though.



Man, don't even get me started on this. I've been preaching the gospel according to David around here ever since I discovered his music. When I found out that he was playing with John, I was a little disappointed. I wasn't disappointed about him having the gig, but I just kept thinking David is bigger than that, musically. Don't get me wrong, I like John Mayer and respect him as a guitarist but I have no doubt that John secretly longs to be a funky white boy, and when DRH came into the camp, I couldn't help but suspect that the opportunity for John to "learn" would come about pretty frequently. More often than not do I see this happen in circles of the blue-eyed soulsters/funksters, etc. Although John's market is anything but funky, David is a master songwriter and it stands to reason that John was aware of this and probably hoped to acquire a lesson or two along the way. From things I've seen John do and play onstage, I have an idea where his head is musically. He may even be posting on here! lol
I'm probably pissing off Vic Wooten fans and John Mayer fans alike for different reasons, so we may have to jump over to another thread, but I had to speak on it. You, Blackguitarist and any other brother who holds a guitar has experienced this before. We all know how this goes from experience. I'm not gonna dwell on "it", but you know what I'm getting at. Just like the skin color, it don't rub off, though!
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Reply #14 posted 03/20/05 12:59pm

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Man, don't even get me started on this. I've been preaching the gospel according to David around here ever since I discovered his music. When I found out that he was playing with John, I was a little disappointed. I wasn't disappointed about him having the gig, but I just kept thinking David is bigger than that, musically. Don't get me wrong, I like John Mayer and respect him as a guitarist but I have no doubt that John secretly longs to be a funky white boy, and when DRH came into the camp, I couldn't help but suspect that the opportunity for John to "learn" would come about pretty frequently. More often than not do I see this happen in circles of the blue-eyed soulsters/funksters, etc. Although John's market is anything but funky, David is a master songwriter and it stands to reason that John was aware of this and probably hoped to acquire a lesson or two along the way. From things I've seen John do and play onstage, I have an idea where his head is musically. He may even be posting on here! lol
I'm probably pissing off Vic Wooten fans and John Mayer fans alike for different reasons, so we may have to jump over to another thread, but I had to speak on it. You, Blackguitarist and any other brother who holds a guitar has experienced this before. We all know how this goes from experience. I'm not gonna dwell on "it", but you know what I'm getting at. Just like the skin color, it don't rub off, though!
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Well, first off im white lol and second I just realize that it isnt a coincidence that Harris never got write ups like Mayer. For goodness sake he was on Columbia the same as Mayer. He had a star producer and people didn't want to push his tracks. Now, i am willing to admit that maybe the single wasnt there. But I think the investors are the racist ones who didnt push him.



David Ryan Harris has tried 4 differnet paths.
The Metal funk path/ the retro post modern with hip hop loops/
The folk rock/ and the R&B tinged soul path


That dude put in his work. Chrysalis still has a shelved Follow for Now album.

Not to diss Prince but the dude has 48 million dollars n change from last year. If he loves music so much he should jump start some artists he believes in.

Why would you spend it on whatever? You can do so much with that money. I don't know. If money isnt important then invest it in the future of music.

Thats what I'd do. I know it's unrealistic to expect that. But Prince needs to realize he can put the focus on musicians. Just praising yourself and the few icons out there is pointless.

Prince has gotten his praise and accolades. I think it's kind of selfish to not open the door for New school artists who arent established.
Prince could start a Night club and get it right this time maybe.
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Reply #15 posted 03/20/05 1:58pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

You, Blackguitarist and any other brother who holds a guitar has experienced this before. We all know how this goes from experience.

hmmm Sounds like it might be a case of the "dilute and perp" syndrome.

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Reply #16 posted 03/20/05 2:24pm

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drool
a psychotic is someone who just figured out what's going on
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Reply #17 posted 03/20/05 4:44pm

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Trickology said:



Well, first off im white lol and second I just realize that it isnt a coincidence that Harris never got write ups like Mayer. For goodness sake he was on Columbia the same as Mayer. He had a star producer and people didn't want to push his tracks. Now, i am willing to admit that maybe the single wasnt there. But I think the investors are the racist ones who didnt push him.



David Ryan Harris has tried 4 differnet paths.
The Metal funk path/ the retro post modern with hip hop loops/
The folk rock/ and the R&B tinged soul path


That dude put in his work. Chrysalis still has a shelved Follow for Now album.

Not to diss Prince but the dude has 48 million dollars n change from last year. If he loves music so much he should jump start some artists he believes in.

Why would you spend it on whatever? You can do so much with that money. I don't know. If money isnt important then invest it in the future of music.

Thats what I'd do. I know it's unrealistic to expect that. But Prince needs to realize he can put the focus on musicians. Just praising yourself and the few icons out there is pointless.

Prince has gotten his praise and accolades. I think it's kind of selfish to not open the door for New school artists who arent established.
Prince could start a Night club and get it right this time maybe.




Well said. I agree 100%. I still have no doubt that DRH was brought in to be exploited, but I also blame the labels who have consistantly screwed him. People on here have asked what do you think would happen to Prince if he came out now instead of back when he did. DRH is the living definition of what would happen. Mint Condition is another example of what happens when brothas try to put together something musically progressive that falls outside of the stereotypical box. The industry is against creative progression BIG TIME. An artist like Prince isn't going to help DRH because Prince would be threatened by him. David is really iceskating uphill. Cats like Vic operate outside the box by being incredible on a specific instrument, but cats like DRH have to hustle every time a project comes out because they get NO SUPPORT WHATSOEVER from the label that signed them. Why? Because the label that signs an artist like DRH is signing them to sabatoge them in the first place. Labels want a certain "look", and a controllable amount of talent. Labels have seen what happens when an artist gets out of hand (Prince) and they are not having it in this day and age. They want exclusive control over you and your career. David tried four different routes because he is talented enough to do so. The one he hasn't tried may be the only one that would work for him - the overseas market. I don't blame TTD/Sananda for saying fuck the states and bouncing. For artists like that, sometimes you just have to go elsewhere to be truly respected and appreciated.
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Reply #18 posted 03/20/05 6:46pm

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I Loved this album!


some remember David in Follow For Now, But I also remember that both he and Van Hunt were in Dionne Farris's band at the same time: David played lead and guitar(and was the band director), and Van played rhythm guitar and doubled on keyboards(her band later included Time guitarist Tori Ruffin)....

I'm sorry....just realized I'm contibuting to thread-jackin'...

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Reply #19 posted 03/22/05 7:29am

Trickology

I tell you something BlaqueKnight.

David Ryan is getting the same treatment that Tonex is.
Tonex has never had a headline tour and he has over 1000 songs and thousands and thousands of tracks/beats. He does all of his work by himself. And even with his live album they didnt give him the money to tour.
But Fred Hammond and John P Kee and Donnie Mcclurkin toured. Its been 6 years since he signed to that label. Everybody knows in the business about T as a live performer. They know he KILLLS everybody as a musician/singer
Stevie,Fred,Kirk,John,Musiq,Saadiq,Faith Evans, He has new albums already completed since his 2004 lp.


They all come out to his show. Do they ever mention him? NO.
Do you know how much he owes his label? More than any usual artist.
And he does everything by himself. Something isnt right.

They didnt even give him a tour when his DVD dropped last year.

Verity is a black run gospel label under the umbrella of JIVE. So what does that tell you? Its the business now that is sabotaging everybody. There is probably a way you can save these artists by
putting them on TV.

If I was David I'd sign with Favored Nations and do a guitar project so he gets his name out there. You know Steve Vai has already got grammies.
So I think
Theres another talented dude who makes the Same album over and over again (the new Vai lp is so generic) but his label is blazing. Vai really is giving guitarists a place to jump off regardless of their format.

Another thing that makes David unique is he uses an E Bow. So maybe someone like Robert fripp would give David a place for an Ebow guitar project.

I dont know but I think the selling on the website takes it only so far.
I kind of know why he wont give it to a distributor. But still if he is gonna tour that much he needs something to show for it.


Yet another reason why Foley wont sign with a label.


People like Fuze,Bourelly,Reid,Jef Lee,Foley,David Ryan,
Theres probably a festival there somewhere.


I think when you are a legendary act like PRince and you make a statement like "Musicology"
You make a killing at shows and he could take some of that money and develop potential acts. What does he do? He puts more money behind earwraps and throws extravagant hollywood parties. Thats a mixed message. How much do these parties run him?
Does he really care about artists? Or only the ones who praise and party with him?




You should read Me and My Bass guitar it kind of explains how most of the people that Victor was cheated by was musicians he respected.
It talks about the reputation of Wooten family band.


Vic was opening for Curtis Mayfield at age 8.


Maybe Sa Ra has it right. Produce for Hot acts and develop your direction and sound and image. Then when its time Leak alot of your demos to the public and let them play it on the radio.

Sa Ra is doing what Prince and Funkadelic did. They dressed real wild and did alot cutting edge music with controversial lyrics.


In some ways Prince reminds me of Citizen Kane. He has a mansion in Hollywood and all this money and he still wants more. More magazine/newspaper spotlights/more music videos/more power
Mani is like his live in girlfriend who really jumped off cuz of the newsgroups online.

The money that it cost to film "Call my Name" he could have invested in some acts that were struggling in the MPLS area.


Dont get me wrong Prince deserves all his credit. But everytime he comes out the focus is put back on him and more time is taken away from other artists.
He talks a good game about slavery of artists, alot of these artists do.

It's funny but it makes me want Prince to just get shut out of the picture. So he understands. "Look, you have your grammies and oscars. Dont you realize you can tour around the world and be wealthy and world renowned for as long as your days are on this earth"

But who does Prince want to work with? Freakin Beyonce and Alicia Keys and Lenny.

These established acts..... then he has the audacity to ask "Where are the musicians" and then his fanbase parrots it.

And they are all just dying slow deaths waiting to make a living out of what they do. Maybe artists need to take some marketing courses too.
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Trickology said:


People like Fuze,Bourelly,Reid,Jef Lee,Foley,David Ryan,
Theres probably a festival there somewhere.


nod Yes!! Now THAT's a show I'd like to see!! I'd be Front and Center for that one!!
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Trickology said:

I tell you something BlaqueKnight.

David Ryan is getting the same treatment that Tonex is.
Tonex has never had a headline tour and he has over 1000 songs and thousands and thousands of tracks/beats. He does all of his work by himself. And even with his live album they didnt give him the money to tour.
But Fred Hammond and John P Kee and Donnie Mcclurkin toured. Its been 6 years since he signed to that label. Everybody knows in the business about T as a live performer. They know he KILLLS everybody as a musician/singer
Stevie,Fred,Kirk,John,Musiq,Saadiq,Faith Evans, He has new albums already completed since his 2004 lp.
..... Maybe artists need to take some marketing courses too.





Guess how I discovered Tonex? I'm almost ashamed to admit this, but I heard the theme song for that show "One on One" and I was wondering who the hell that was singing. From there I started backtracking his catalog. He is the Stevie Wonder/Prince of gospel without a doubt. It is truly a miracle that he's not all over the pop charts like Kirk Franklin was and Mary, Mary - but once again another great artist gets shafted. I am gonna pick up Vic's book and check it out. Its funny how certain artists are used as a feeding tube for their genres throughout the industry. They get little/no credit, yet EVERYBODY knows them, has their work at home and listens to it regularly to see what they can "borrow", but won't admit it.
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