Don't get upset- this is my 1st time starting an MJ thread of any kind. I'll try not to do it again. This has nothing to do with the trial.


Maybe I am going crazy, but sometimes I look at MJ and I think "his face doesn't look THAT bad." I was thinking- I don't think that he's had anything done structurally since 1987. Granted-he looks worse now, but the nose is essentially the same shape. Also, I don't think he in any way chemically altered his skin.My reasons are two:

1. How does one "bleech" their skin.

2. Why in God's namme would you bleech it to look like the Joker??? I mean, his fingernails are purple-that show signs of a skin disease and not bleeching.

Lastly, would we think he looks bad if we hadn't known what he looked like before? He looks a bit like Jack White or a Tim Burtn character-which isn't really a good thing, but it's only really horrible considering he used to be a handsome dude.

skywalker said:

Dude has had tons of surgery since '87 - even hardcore fans admit he's addicted.

http://www.anomalies-unli...ckson.html

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skywalker said:

yes it is such a shame, in concluding i therefore say that micheal has had plastic surgery and that like Prince said in "uptown"....."she's just crazy crazy crazy little mixed up dame, she's just a victim of society and all it's dreams..."

skywalker said:

skywalker said:

yes it is such a shame, in concluding i therefore say that micheal has had plastic surgery and that like Prince said in "uptown"....."she's just crazy crazy crazy little mixed up dame, she's just a victim of society and all it's dreams..."

skywalker said:

1. How does one "bleech" their skin.

skin lightening creams are widely available throught the U.s .they work by blending into the skin and gradually stopping the production of melanin which is the pigment that gives skin it's color."white" people have no melanin as such their skin is exteremly pale and light, "black" people have lots of melanin as such some are very dark. the tone of skin,that is how light or dark u are, depends on the level of melanin in ur skin therfore by stopping melanin production u gradulally become less dark and more light. Profeesional skin care surgeons can also perform chemical laser surgerys which lighten ur skin in a matter of operations



2. Why in God's namme would you bleech it to look like the Joker???
It is purely psychological. In the U.s and throught Europe and the rest of the world everything is seen from a eurocentric point of view,that is from the angle of european superiority and to the benefit of europeans, it has been in ingrained into the minds of darker races for centuires that they are inferior and lighter races superior. this ideology is still very prevalent in the minds of darker races today. skin lightening or "bleaching" as it is comonly called is a way to try to measure up and gain acceptance from the lighter community. it manifets itself in several ways:

You see many black girls wearing long blonde hair. for example "Beyonce" have any of u taken a good look at her lately? she looks just like a blonde white girl. or what about what "lil' Kim" is doing to herself she has had skin lightening surgery and wears bleached hair. "monica' wears bleached long blonde hair. the blonde hair is sign of that inferority and an attempt to try to mask it. and in the case of Micheal Jackson he has had tons of plastic surgery it is quite visible in his facial structure. it's like he became a whole new person between "thriller" and "bad" different face, hair, look everything. the plastic surgery, blonde hair or skin lighteneing treatments will never ever change what's on the inside where the problem really lies. until u can truly accept urslef for who u really are no amount of plastic surgery will ever be able to change that because u will always be the same person on the inside.


I mean, his fingernails are purple-that show signs of a skin disease and not bleeching.

purple fingernails could be the sign of some neurological malfieceance but i belive that micheal really does have "vitiligo"however, vitiligo does not cause u have straight long curly hair or a longer straighter nose.


Lastly, would we think he looks bad if we hadn't known what he looked like before? He looks a bit like Jack White or a Tim Burtn character-which isn't really a good thing, but it's only really horrible considering he used to be a handsome dude.[/quote]
yes it is such a shame, in concluding i therefore say that micheal has had plastic surgery and that like Prince said in "uptown"....."she's just crazy crazy crazy little mixed up dame, she's just a victim of society and all it's dreams..."

oooppsss sorry u guys my pc has a virus and its like freaking out!!

i'm with u on the whole doesn't look that bad thing.
i mean his nose is fucked beyond compare but as long as he leaves hisself alone
i'm cool.
and no, for the record, i do not think he's sexy, gorgeous, etc...

oooppsss sorry u guys my pc has a virus and its like freaking out!!

"Dude has had tons of surgery since '87 - even hardcore fans admit he's addicted."

Not saying he hasn't had surgery--face lifts, botox, whatever... I am saying that his nose/cheeks/chin are the same shape as they have been ince the late 80's. Since '87 he's had that pixie pointy nose. It just aged poorly/unnaturally.

skywalker said:

Nah, he's had a different nose practically every year since then. Maybe NOW it resembles his 1987 nose, but that nose bridge has been built up and shaved away so many times it looks like plaster.

VoicesCarry said:

You were probably already aware, but that page is not totally accurate. Very amusing but I find it to be misinformative and speculative at a lot of points.
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skywalker said:

@ the joker. I thought I was the only one who said Jack White looked like MJ.

VoicesCarry said:

thats his "i go girl" pic.

Christopher said:

Does anyone find this sexy?

SquirrelMeat said:

god, I hope not.

SquirrelMeat said:

My wife just said she did.

The scary thing is, she meant it too.

What does that say about me?

you know I do.


that you might be "interesting"

I don´t like the way he looked in Oxford though.

dag said:

Yeah, he looked like a corpse. He's looking okay these days.

Notice how he's had his nose built up again to resemble the Bad era look. Much improvement on that awful stub of a thing he was sporting around 2001/2.
Now just lay off the paste, dude.

VoicesCarry said:

You probably realise this, but the third picture is a fake. It's a digital mix of pic 2 and 4. Just sayin'

SpcMs said:

And the second one isn't a fake?

SpcMs said:

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Xavier23 said:

Well i wasn't going to reply until this statement just wish to make a few corrections X if you don't mind

Its quite obvious Jackson has vitiligo, its even beend discussed in the recent trial...

but i wanted to clear up that Causions DO have Melanin
They just have a lighter version, virtually everyone has melanin
if they didn't they have no pigment in their lips hair color, eye color
etc etc!

If caucasions had no melanin they would have no protection from the sun,

The evolutionary patterns of melanin determine which part of the world you come from.

if you live where weather is cold, melanin is not needed, thus people are lighter in complexion
in hotter areas that retain more sun people have darker complexions for protection from the sun, scarred from hundreds of years of evolution
and it became genetic

If you look at jackson and a normal Caucasion sid eto side
Jackson is infinitely more Paler, because unlike a normal caucasion he has no Melanin at all

his skin killer without all the make - up would look greyish,..

Now on to skin lighteners, Conventional skin lighteners are temporary, modern science has not developed a method to completely destroy Melanin in a persons sells without it basically killing them

hydroquinone, a common skin lightening agents prevents the production of new melanin cells and makes people appear lighter
but it does not kill the cells that create the melanin
thus the skin color is only temporary

when the hydroquinone has not been applied to the skin for a certain amount of time (depends on how much you apply) your skin returns to its normal pigment

Vitiligo, is a skin disease that virtually eats the pigment by destroying melanin AND the cells that create melanin,
nobody knows why this h appens, dermotologist just know its genetic.


Now to the hair straightening and nose jobs

Jackson had nose jobs not to appear caucasion but because he has issues with it, he had nose jobs way before his transformation into a different skin color.

To say that straightening his hair, leads to him wanting to be caucasion is ridiculous as well cause many black males, and females straighten their hair or make it looser.
because its justs o much trouble to have,
its "nappy"
I assume it is easier to maintain when it is straighten.


If Jackson did what lil kim did, which was truly lighten her skin, and become a blond, then ok
its obvious


His addiction to plastic surgery is self hatred, but not racially induced

and i believe the black community is realizing that, and are accepting him back into the community

the rumours about him are becoming primative.