Handclapsfingasnapz said: they're the o-fucking-jays, not o-fucking-town. of course they had the right to protest to it all.
X'actly!! There are legions of artists who should've been considered before Mr. Timberlake...I think it shows how little most people care about real R&B.... ....would Y'all have let Kenny G induct Prince? ... [Edited 3/16/05 8:14am] " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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paligap said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: they're the o-fucking-jays, not o-fucking-town. of course they had the right to protest to it all.
X'actly!! There are legions of artists who should've been considered before Mr. Timberlake...I think it shows how little most people care about real R&B.... ....would Y'all have let Kenny G induct Prince? i really didn't think outkast was all that qualified to induct prince...alicia keys maybe (she did give a great speech and they did at least jam together)...but i could have really thought of 10-20 people more deserving to induct ole boy...as far as the o'jays...that's like jamie foxx presenting steven spielberg or martin scorseee with the lifetime Oscar... ... [Edited 3/16/05 8:14am] you look better on your facebook page than you do in person | |
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meltwithu said: i really didn't think outkast was all that qualified to induct prince...alicia keys maybe (she did give a great speech and they did at least jam together)...but i could have really thought of 10-20 people more deserving to induct ole boy...as far as the o'jays...that's like jamie foxx presenting steven spielberg or martin scorseee with the lifetime Oscar... ... I agree. For some reason, when it comes to the R&B artists, they seem to choose presenters that are "hot" in the media at that moment, whereas the Rock artists are generally inducted by their peers... ... [Edited 3/16/05 9:21am] " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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When Prince was inducted, I was a bit surprised and a little disappointed with who inducted him (Alicia and Andre). Personally, I would've liked to see Carlos Santana induct him, but that didn't happen. I realized after that it makes no difference who inducts who. The inductees should just to grateful for the induction. The O'Jays are great, but seem very ungrateful IMO. Perhaps they should've made them wait another couple of years so they could ensure someone worthy was available to induct them | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: they're the o-fucking-jays, not o-fucking-town. of course they had the right to protest to it all.
Amen... They could have found someone better.. | |
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kisscamille said: When Prince was inducted, I was a bit surprised and a little disappointed with who inducted him (Alicia and Andre). Personally, I would've liked to see Carlos Santana induct him, but that didn't happen. I realized after that it makes no difference who inducts who. The inductees should just to grateful for the induction. The O'Jays are great, but seem very ungrateful IMO. Perhaps they should've made them wait another couple of years so they could ensure someone worthy was available to induct them
i disagree...you play the chitlin circuit, work hard for years and the best somebody can come up with is timberlake? i'd be pissed too! if patti labelle got inducted by ashanti or beyonce, peeps would be upset. why not have eminem induct run-dmc if they ever get inducted you look better on your facebook page than you do in person | |
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Simply put, to paraphrase The Smiths, Justin just hasn't earned it yet, baby. All the other artists were indcuted by musicians who've proved their worth. All Justin has proven is that he can rip the moves off of Michael, and rip the top off of Janet Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9) | |
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kisscamille said: When Prince was inducted, I was a bit surprised and a little disappointed with who inducted him (Alicia and Andre). Personally, I would've liked to see Carlos Santana induct him, but that didn't happen. I realized after that it makes no difference who inducts who. The inductees should just to grateful for the induction. The O'Jays are great, but seem very ungrateful IMO. Perhaps they should've made them wait another couple of years so they could ensure someone worthy was available to induct them
naw i disagree with the statement i put in bold. just because they wanted someone more worthy of talent to induct them, then they should have been made to wait to be inducted??? Ummm no, they deserved to be inducted now because the impact they made in the music industry. What impact has justin made by being like every other male artist out there? Trying to make up the most silliest dance moves with hip hop beats is a far cry from songs like "Family Reunion", "For the love of money", "Survival", "Backstabbers", and "I Love Music". I don't think its about being ungrateful, this is really about respect. If they are gonna induct them, then they should have had enough respect for them to let them choose who they wanted to induct them. i know its just your opinion and i respect that, but your view seems unethical to me. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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I have no problem with the Hall picking the inductors, but I also think it would be cool if the Hall would take into consideration whether the inductee has a request. | |
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OdysseyMiles said: I have no problem with the Hall picking the inductors, but I also think it would be cool if the Hall would take into consideration whether the inductee has a request.
What I love the most about your new avvie and signature is that it seems like all your statements are coming from a drunk person. The Normal Whores Club | |
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I always thought the honor came from the induction itself, not the person who reads a prompter for 60 seconds leading in2 the video montage... [Edited 3/16/05 10:20am] Listen to me on The House of Pop Culture podcast on itunes http://itunes.apple.com/u...d438631917 | |
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missfee said: JackieBlue said: Even if Justin did jam to the O'Jays as a freakin' toddler that doesn't boost his status where he should have the honor of introducing the legendary group. They can get established and respected artists like Bruce for U2 and Neil Young for the Pretenders and somehow Justin is okay for the O'Jays? I can't even believe that stuff upthread about Lil' Kim for EWF. Then the inductees protest and the RRHF can't make an adjustment? They can't cater to the honorees a little? Seems like they'll get any ole body to introduce some artists while others are introduced by veterans or artists connected to the inductee(s).
my thoughts exactly I swear recently all of the R&B inductees get fucked over when picking someone to APPROPIATELY & PROPERLY induct them in??? I gotta wonder what that is all about | |
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npgmaverick said: I always thought the honor came from the induction itself, not the person who reads a prompter for 60 seconds leading in2 the video montage...
[Edited 3/16/05 10:20am] Why not treat the honor with due respect and select someone who can speak from a place of knowledge and understanding of why the inductee deserves the honor in the first place? The Normal Whores Club | |
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FunkMistress said: Why not treat the honor with due respect and select someone who can speak from a place of knowledge and understanding of why the inductee deserves the honor in the first place?
I agree that would b great and it should b that way, but I think the price of broadcasting the ceremony is having artists who will draw viewers (and honestly, who in MTV's demographic even knows or cares who The O'Jays r?) I just don't think it's a big deal. And sometimes a younger, less-seasoned per4mer can make 4 nice inductions (see also, Alicia Keys). I dunno, if this means the show will continue to b broadcast, I'm willing 2 accept it. Listen to me on The House of Pop Culture podcast on itunes http://itunes.apple.com/u...d438631917 | |
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DavidEye said: This reminds me of 1999,when Lil Kim (!) inducted Earth Wind and Fire into the Rock Hall of Hame.It was ridiculous.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!! I never knew that, that's worse than this bullshit - and THIS (Justin) is BAD!!! | |
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FunkMistress said: Why not treat the honor with due respect and select someone who can speak from a place of knowledge and understanding of why the inductee deserves the honor in the first place? Yes - this makes perfect sense. While Alicia Keys did honor Prince wonderfully with her induction speech (he broadacst it before every live Musicology show) - Outkast wasn't quite s articulate when it was their turn to speak. It's a big deal for the honoree and the RRHF people should be more discrimintating when they select those who will present the inductions. Or perhaps let the inductee choose? VOTE....EARLY | |
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nammie said: missfee said: my thoughts exactly I swear recently all of the R&B inductees get fucked over when picking someone to APPROPIATELY & PROPERLY induct them in??? I gotta wonder what that is all about Oh, it MUST be a conspiracy! | |
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sirnozedevoidofunk said: Oh my god, yall are some DUMBASS people if u think there was nothing wrong
with JT representing for the O'JAYS????? COME ON NOW!!! years and years of legacy and history, and they are represented by THAT!? Is that what they are worth!!!??? I mean there is Patti, there's Diana, there's even Jermaine Jackson, Stevie, Teddy P, the list can go on and on.... some stupid ass mother fuckers on here. NO SHIT !!! * don't even waste yo' fingers typing * "Who gon' clean up all deez Flowers" ----Eddie Murphy as mr. clarence | |
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FunkMistress said: OdysseyMiles said: I have no problem with the Hall picking the inductors, but I also think it would be cool if the Hall would take into consideration whether the inductee has a request.
What I love the most about your new avvie and signature is that it seems like all your statements are coming from a drunk person. Awesome. That means I speak da troof! | |
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TheRealFiness said: it would be more fitting if they got an ex labelmate like say Billy Paul... or Teddy, shit even Kenny and Leon... but the o'jays is a lil mad at Kenny and leon tho'
oh, gamble & huff? why the bad blood? | |
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DavidEye said: laurarichardson said: ----- I hope your joking (LOL) I wish I was too Now that is sad! | |
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npgmaverick said: FunkMistress said: Why not treat the honor with due respect and select someone who can speak from a place of knowledge and understanding of why the inductee deserves the honor in the first place?
I agree that would b great and it should b that way, but I think the price of broadcasting the ceremony is having artists who will draw viewers (and honestly, who in MTV's demographic even knows or cares who The O'Jays r?) I just don't think it's a big deal. And sometimes a younger, less-seasoned per4mer can make 4 nice inductions (see also, Alicia Keys). I dunno, if this means the show will continue to b broadcast, I'm willing 2 accept it. Right, the MTV audience could give two shits about any of these people. But that's not even the demographic that's targeted here. The Hall of Fame induction shows are aired on VH-1. So it's even more heinous that they'd hire Justin Twinklecake. Hell, just be glad they didn't come up with some other way to induct Clapton or McCartney again. | |
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NewPowerSista said: Scorpion said: Veteran R&B group the O'Jays protested about Justin Timberlake's involvement in their induction to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
The group were introduced by the 24-year-old singer at the ceremony at in New York. The O'Jays are best known for their disco 70s hits Love Train and Backstabbers. Eddie Levert, 62, said they were unhappy about Timberlake inducting them into the Hall. He said: "We protested, kicked and stomped. But it is out of our control." His bandmate Walter Williams, 61, added: "No offence to Justin, because he deserves the respect he has earned, but I could think of a few people who know more about our pain and suffering and history." U2 were inducted by Bruce Springsteen, the Pretenders by Neil Young (who then played a song with the band), and blues guitarist Buddy Guy by BB King and Eric Clapton - who also enjoyed a jam together. Meanwhile, soul singer Percy Sledge by Rod Stewart at the lavish ceremony at 's the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel. http://www.ananova.com/en...20084.html I think that even in their protest, they were not discourteous to Justin Timberlake. Walter said, and rightly so, that there are a few (there are actually PLENTY) of people who are more aware of the history of a group like the O'Jays! When you look at those who inducted the other people, it's ever clearer that someone else with some semblance of a relationship to the music that the O'Jays have done over the years would hae been more appropriate. I don't think they were being pompous or egotistical, just honest and unfortunately, the HOF, as usual, did not respect their opinion about it. Muchas gracias. The artists themselves protesting their inductor - I LOVE THAT!!! Especially in this case. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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Xavier23 said: what's the big deal if Justin inducted them? talk about E-G-O
maybe they would have felt better about Ursher doing their induction.he's seen a lot of pain and suffering,right? larry luvlife
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I really is for ratings. Young people will see Justin's name and watch. Is it right? No. But hey. And Outkast were embarrassing when they inducted Prince. They could've at least had their publicist do a nice write up that they couyld've read on the ceremony. Alicia did the right thing. She most likely spent a good deal thinking about what she was going to say and then sat down and wrote it so she could read it on stage. Outkast seemed drunk and clueless. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: TheRealFiness said: it would be more fitting if they got an ex labelmate like say Billy Paul... or Teddy, shit even Kenny and Leon... but the o'jays is a lil mad at Kenny and leon tho'
oh, gamble & huff? why the bad blood? $$$ Money. The royalties the O'Jays say they're due and never got. Say it ain't so, Gamble and Huff? This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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Supernova said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: oh, gamble & huff? why the bad blood? $$$ Money. The royalties the O'Jays say they're due and never got. Say it ain't so, Gamble and Huff? ohhh... | |
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Supernova said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: oh, gamble & huff? why the bad blood? $$$ Money. The royalties the O'Jays say they're due and never got. Say it ain't so, Gamble and Huff? A few days ago,I ordered a book from Amazon called "House On Fire:The Rise And Fall of Philly Soul".It tells the whole story of Gamble and Huff and I can't wait to read it.Have you heard about this book,Nova? | |
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FunkMistress said: OdysseyMiles said: I have no problem with the Hall picking the inductors, but I also think it would be cool if the Hall would take into consideration whether the inductee has a request.
What I love the most about your new avvie and signature is that it seems like all your statements are coming from a drunk person. "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: Supernova said: $$$ Money. The royalties the O'Jays say they're due and never got. Say it ain't so, Gamble and Huff? ohhh... and also they released an Unreleased O'jays cd that was just throwaways to scoop up some extra revenue. | |
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