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Reply #90 posted 03/17/05 10:52am

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Couldn't agree more, man. I love discussing his work. wink


What work?


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Reply #91 posted 03/17/05 10:53am

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So, another day, another suit:



I like that pic. smile
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Reply #92 posted 03/17/05 11:00am

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dag said:


I think he´s acting his own age as well, As Quincy once said: "He acts like an adolescent, but at the same time as an old wise philosopher." You know, the media will always pick only on that child-like side to him.

I don´t think that a person who is different is entitled to therapy? Why? TO make him what everybody else is?

It is funny thought guys that you guys can see past Prince´s eccentricities and see him as a normal guy who just likes acting eccentric and aren´t able to see that in MIke. Cause believe it or not, MOST ppl that I know believe that Prince is not normal as well. You can´t convince them. And that is the case with non-MJ fans as well. It is impossible convince them that he could be normal.


I think for him as a man who likes to hang around with kids it is more natural to be around guys than girls? What should we do with them? Play with dolls?
Well anyways, it´s not just boys he surrounds himself with.




It is funny thought guys that you guys can see past Prince´s eccentricities

We're talking about MJ here. Yes P his his own issues...I never said he doesn't, but his issues lie in OTHER areas that don't involve children. Nor does he have children to take care of. Big difference.

I think for him as a man who likes to hang around with kids it is more natural to be around guys than girls? What should we do with them? Play with dolls?

eek You did not just say that! He should be more of a parental figure around the kids...and it should include boys and girls. Dolls??? That's sort of sexist. I am sure there are PLENTY of things to do at Neverland other than play with dolls. Your comment about him about it being more natural...IF HE WAS A 10 YEAR OLD!!!! And he is not!

And thanks for the publicity pic from the 80's (it seems). But do we KNOW of any girls he befriended and had over on weekends and such?


Its pretty obvious your pretty much obsessed with the topic,
and not that I don't respect your opinion ... but your restating we all already know.

Any good Psychologist can tell ya MJ's mentality is one of a 10 year old...Which is conflicting with his adult mentality, Taoist terms, Yin and Yang are off balance? A normal person grows up into adulthood
Since MJ did not grow up normally i guess it stunted his mental growth and he is stuck at a premature mentality. Which conflicts with his adult mentality, which is where Philosophy, Sex and adult nature activities ly etc.....

The man does need help!
and it has nothing to do with children in his bedroom, as much as you want it to be. This man is 1 chemical short of being a manic depressive, He shrouds himself with children to masquerade that depression and loneliness etc.....
His personality and stardom created a volatile person that is experiencing mental anguish. His insecurities, where pulled by stardom and launched him into a self-destructive pattern, because he has no touch with the real world!
And it gets worse because the more people wish to interject in his life the more reclusive he becomes!

Jackson is a disturbed man
He is what psychologist call "Stuck in childhood"
which is why he is not psychologically considered a pedophile in any way
Cause pedophiles keep toys around to lure children, not for themselves!
Childish demeanor is rare among pedophiles...

he needs help, And he won't get it being around a bunch of yes men,
he's experience severe mental trauma that no doubt haunts him
its the reason because of the surgery, the children, secluding himself, LYING TO HIMSELF!

Anybody who can't see he needs help is insane ... but this man also needs to be left alone as well!
Its bad enough he's trapped in his own world, its worse he's hounded when he leaves his world.
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Reply #93 posted 03/17/05 11:04am

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Local lawyer files motion to dismiss Jackson trial


Redondo Beach attorney files longshot briefs with the state Supreme Court in favor of the pop star. He calls the case an "unjustifiable prosecution."


By Denise Nix
Daily Breeze

A well-known South Bay attorney ventured into the world's biggest criminal case Tuesday by filing briefs with the state Supreme Court on behalf of Michael Jackson that allege the pop star is the target of an overzealous prosecution.

The papers filed by attorney Carl A. "Tony" Capozzola ask for an immediate halt to Jackson's ongoing child molestation trial in Santa Maria, now in its third week.

Capozzola said in an interview that he was contacted about two months ago by a member of Jackson's legal team, who sought him out after reading about his work on several high-profile cases.

Capozzola said he has kept himself and his work for his client quiet until now -- filing his motions with the state's highest court on the same day the alleged 15-year-old victim concluded a four-day stint on the witness stand during which many inconsistencies in his story were explored.

"I would like to see the public opinion be acknowledged in the hope -- in the hope -- that the district attorney in Santa Barbara will do the right thing and stop this unjustifiable prosecution," Capozzola said.

News accounts about the Jackson trial printed from the Internet are on Capozzola's desk in his Redondo Beach office that overlooks the Pacific Ocean. He shares photographs of himself with the entertainer taken during a visit to Jackson's Neverland Ranch, posing with Oscar statuettes in a room where pictures of Peter Pan and a young Shirley Temple hang on the walls.

During that Feb. 13 visit, Capozzola had a talk with Jackson about the case. Then the 46-year-old international star signed a retainer hiring Capozzola to pursue appeals in his malicious prosecution lawsuit against Santa Barbara District Attorney Thomas Sneddon.

"I told them before I participated fully in this I would need to speak to Michael personally and be retained on a personal basis," Capozzola said.

What he discovered at Jackson's home that doubles as an amusement park and is the scene of the alleged crimes was that Jackson "is a giant kid who wouldn't hurt a kid."

"I truly believe that he is a person who loves children, but not in a sexual way," Capozzola said. "But the world of Michael Jackson is different from our world."

The father of five added: "I would not have taken this case if I did not firmly believe in the innocence of Michael Jackson and I have never been more confident that he will be exonerated."

Capozzola said he has maintained "frequent" contact with Jackson and his trial attorney, Thomas Mesereau Jr., during the trial in Santa Maria.

The briefs filed Tuesday claim Sneddon and his office did not give the defense adequate time to review tens of thousands of pages of documents in evidence, did not turn over complete witness lists and has wrongly continued a prosecution based on unverifiable information.

Sneddon's involvement in the case is also attacked. Specifically, the papers note that no other district attorneys in the state personally take cases to trial, and add that a prosecutor's personal interest in the case is grounds to disqualify him or her from the proceedings.

"The public ridicule of Mr. Jackson by calling him 'Jacko Wacko' is just one of the instances where his personal involvement has crossed the line," Capozzola said about an interview Sneddon gave to Court TV in November 2003.

Legal expert Laurie Levenson, a Loyola Law School professor who is following Jackson's trial, said the timing of the Supreme Court filing is no accident and, while the high court is unlikely to act on the request, the maneuver highlights the problems with the prosecution's case.

"It's almost impossible to win these motions," Levenson said. "But I don't blame him for trying and it has good PR value."

The filing is the next step in a malicious prosecution lawsuit Jackson brought and lost. Capozzola said he expects the court to decide within four or five days if it will review the case.

Based on the Supreme Court's action, Capozzola said a decision will then be made about filing a federal lawsuit that would address constitutional issues such as due process and vindictive prosecution.

A spokeswoman for the Santa Barbara County District Attorney's Office said a gag order precludes her from commenting on the motion.

Jackson is accused of plying the boy, a cancer patient, with alcohol and sexually molesting him. He is also charged with holding the boy and his family captive at his Neverland Ranch in 2003 and forcing them to take part in a documentary in which he proclaims he shares his bed with children, but in an innocent way.

The case that brought Capozzola to the attention of Jackson's legal team involved his representation of a couple that took their grandchild from Florida to protect her from alleged child molestation by her stepfather. After 13 years on the run, the girl came forward when she turned 18. With Capozzola's help, the grandparents were able to avoid federal charges.

Capozzola's work on behalf of Los Angeles Lakers trainer Gary Vitti in a messy domestic abuse case in which Vitti was acquitted of accusations he strangled his girlfriend also garnered the 45-year bar veteran some positive headlines.

[DailyBreeze.com]

http://www.dailybreeze.co...72022.html



I love his "court" suits! Especially this one!! I love blue!!
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #94 posted 03/17/05 11:19am

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Anybody who can't see he needs help is insane ... but this man also needs to be left alone as well!

Alright, I am insane. biggrin


Its bad enough he's trapped in his own world, its worse he's hounded when he leaves his world.


I love this quote of yours.

BTW the worst thing is that even if he did needed help and asked for it, he´s gotta get hurt even more. There seems to be no way out.

because he has no touch with the real world!

Of course, always have been, always will be. You should ppl realize that his isolation is NOT his choice. I remember a very sad quote from him from the early 80´s: "I know the real world only from movies and I am just beginning to learn about friendship and love which is new to me." Doesn´t that just wanna make you cry?

And it gets worse because the more people wish to interject in his life the more reclusive he becomes!


NO wonder about this one as well. AFter all he´s been through I´d be as reclusive as him.

OF course he has issues, we all do, but let´s just leave him alone. I think after all he´s been through he´s doing well. He does his best not to go insane. And keep in mind that everything he does is a try to PROTECT himself.

It is interesting though that I´ve just listed through his Dancing the dream book and I must say that a person who wrote such a thing is in NO way CRAZY or someone who should be tought how to live. I think that it´s actually the other way round. We all have a lot to learn from him as well.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #95 posted 03/17/05 12:22pm

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dag said:

Anybody who can't see he needs help is insane ... but this man also needs to be left alone as well!

Alright, I am insane. biggrin


Of course, always have been, always will be. You should ppl realize that his isolation is NOT his choice. I remember a very sad quote from him from the early 80´s: "I know the real world only from movies and I am just beginning to learn about friendship and love which is new to me." Doesn´t that just wanna make you cry?

And it gets worse because the more people wish to interject in his life the more reclusive he becomes!


NO wonder about this one as well. AFter all he´s been through I´d be as reclusive as him.

OF course he has issues, we all do, but let´s just leave him alone. I think after all he´s been through he´s doing well. He does his best not to go insane. And keep in mind that everything he does is a try to PROTECT himself.

It is interesting though that I´ve just listed through his Dancing the dream book and I must say that a person who wrote such a thing is in NO way CRAZY or someone who should be tought how to live. I think that it´s actually the other way round. We all have a lot to learn from him as well.



You know, I think the general populace, whilt making fun of MJ...really would like all of this to go away too. No one wants to think of him as the creature he's portrayed. If he was to actively seek help, I think it'd be applauded.

You speak of isolation...but I think he's insulated...not exactly isolated. If he was in seclusion and a recluse...we'd see another Sly...and he'd be out of the public eye completely. And if that means holding off on the music or doing the P thing and being an indie for 10 years...then fine. Thing is MJ loves the spotlight like most of his contemporaries.

Aside from all of the trial...the person who needs to help Mike is Mike. He ought to take a look at his whole scene (if that's even possible and make some changes in the way he does things or is viewed as doing things.

If I were Mike, and the trial blows over and he come out of it pretty scratch free, Id take inventory. Mark it up and sell it off. Sell Neverland...consolidate. Relocate in a private location. Create my own studio. Make great music and distribute exclusively over the internet and communicate with my fans only...no media announcements. When everyone has forgotten about meand has stopped following my every move, then maybe come out a little bit.Release an album via a major label...and then become reclusive and elusive.

I don't say this to hurt...but I think it's one of the only ways he can keep on being MJ to the folks that care about him the most after all of this.

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Reply #96 posted 03/17/05 12:55pm

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NakedPreacherLady said:

SpcMs said:

So, another day, another suit:



I like that pic. smile

the suit jacket would be okay if he got rid of them stupid military straps. mad
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Reply #97 posted 03/17/05 1:00pm

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dag said:

I remember a very sad quote from him from the early 80´s: "I know the real world only from movies and I am just beginning to learn about friendship and love which is new to me." Doesn´t that just wanna make you cry?

no. it just makes me wanna shake me head in disbelief. that shows just how outta touch he is with the living, breathing world. disbelief
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Reply #98 posted 03/17/05 1:44pm

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Woman called atmosphere 'Pinocchio's Pleasure Island'
Thursday, March 17, 2005 Posted: 2141 GMT (0541 HKT)




SANTA MARIA, California (CNN) -- Michael Jackson's former long-time housekeeper Thursday described Neverland Ranch as a place where children "became wild" during long stays without their parents, drank alcohol in Jackson's presence and often slept with the pop star, instead of in their assigned guest rooms.

But under cross-examination, the woman testified that she never saw Jackson serve alcohol to minors. Additionally, she said she believed the accuser and his brother were staying in guest rooms -- not Jackson's room -- during the time of the alleged molestations.

Testifying in Jackson's child molestation trial, Kiki Fournier said Jackson would focus his attention on particular children -- all of whom were boys between 10 and 15 years old.

Fournier worked at the Jackson home for 10 years before leaving in September 2003.

Among the boys she listed as having received special attention from Jackson were his accuser, the boy's younger brother and movie star McCauley Culkin.

Fournier said she coined the phrase "Pinocchio's Pleasure Island" to refer to the atmosphere at Neverland, where she said children stayed for weeks at a time without their parents and were given "free rein."

"With the absence of authority figures, these children became wild," Fournier said. Jackson's child guests were allowed to watch movies, eat as much candy and stay up as late as they wanted, and they often became "pretty rambunctious," she said.

However, Fournier said she did sometimes see Jackson discipline the children when they got "too rowdy."

"He'd tell them to behave," she said.

Fournier also said that on three or four occasions, she saw children she believed were intoxicated in Jackson's presence.

She described one of those incidents, shortly before she left the ranch in September 2003, in which Jackson and four or five kids were at the dinner table. At least three of them appeared to be intoxicated, she said.

However, she said she never saw Jackson give alcohol to a minor and does not remember seeing him intoxicated in the presence of intoxicated children. She also said she doesn't remember seeing Jackson's teenage accuser or his siblings intoxicated at the ranch.

Fournier also said that overnight guests at Neverland were given assigned guest rooms, but "a lot of the time, they'd stay with Mr. Jackson."

"The beds weren't slept in when you went to clear the room," she said.

Defense raises contradictions
However, during cross-examination by defense attorney Thomas Mesereau Jr., Fournier appeared to contradict testimony by Jackson's accuser that he slept with Jackson in his bedroom every night the pop star was at Neverland in February and March 2003, when he says the molestation occurred.

Fournier said that during that period, the guest room that the accuser and his younger brother were sharing was "just torn apart," with garbage and food strewn about, drinks spilled and glasses broken. Asked if the boys had been staying there during that period of time, she said, "I thought they were."
lol BUSTED!

She also said that the accuser's younger brother -- who testified earlier in the trial that he witnessed Jackson molesting his brother -- became "ornery" and demanding while staying at the ranch. She said he once pulled a knife on her when they were both in the kitchen and the boy was trying to cook.

She did not say what led to the knife-pulling incident or how it was resolved.

Mesereau also asked Fournier whether, given that Neverland was designed to be a fantasy land for children, it would be surprising that "they would go a little wild."

"No, that would not be unusual," she said.

Jackson 'detail-oriented,' maid testifies
Fournier indicated that she was a very reluctant witness against her former employer.

"I don't want to have anything to do with this," said Fournier, who left Neverland about six months after Jackson is accused of molesting a 13-year-old boy while they were sleeping alone together at Neverland.

Fournier also described Jackson as a "very detail-oriented" person who usually communicated with her through the ranch's manager. However, she said he would at times communicate with her directly.

She was asked by prosecutor Gordon Auchincloss to describe the relationship between Jackson and Frank Tyson, who has been named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the criminal case against Jackson.

She said Tyson was Jackson's employee and the two of them were also "close friends." She said Tyson would sometimes stay at the ranch for a month at a time, although there would also be absences of six months between stays.

Under cross-examination by defense attorney Thomas Mesereau Jr., Fournier admitted that what she knew about Tyson's business relationship with Jackson came from Tyson. When Mesereau suggested that Tyson might have been exaggerating the extent of his relationship with Jackson to promote himself, she agreed he was egotistical.

In their indictment against Tyson, prosecutors allege he was part of a conspiracy by Jackson to intimidate the accuser's family into silence. In trial testimony, the accuser and his brother said Tyson showed them sexually explicit images over the Internet, at Jackson's suggestion, during their first overnight stay at Neverland.

The indictment also alleges that Jackson paid Tyson $1 million on March 31, 2003 -- about two weeks after the accuser and his family left Neverland for the final time.

Weatherman's testimony
Also taking the stand Thursday was Fritz Coleman, a weatherman at KNBC-TV in Los Angeles who moonlights as a comedian.

He testified that he met the accuser and his family when the boy, his brother and his sister came to a comedy camp for disadvantaged children in 1999 at the Laugh Factory, a Los Angeles comedy club. Coleman, who was an instructor at the camp, described the children as "personable, polite and charismatic."

That Christmas, he said, he and another comedian, Louise Palanker, delivered presents to the family at their "very small" apartment in a low-income area of east Los Angeles, in an effort to make sure they family had a Christmas.

In 2000, after Jackson's accuser became ill with cancer, Coleman said, he visited him in the hospital. On the last visit, the boy was "beaming" because he had gotten a "huge box" of gifts from Jackson, Coleman said.

Coleman said when the Laugh Factory decided to throw a benefit for the family, he made an announcement about the event on KNBC, though he wasn't involved in putting the benefit together.

Coleman said he had met the boy's mother only three times, and she never tried to solicit money from him. He said there had been conversations around the Laugh Factory about the boy's father soliciting money from celebrities, but the father had never asked him directly for money.

Also Thursday, the trial judge was expected to rule on a prosecution subpoena for Jackson's financial records for the years leading up to 2003, when he is accused of molesting a 13-year-old boy at his Neverland ranch.

Jackson, 46, arrived at court Thursday morning accompanied by his parents. He waved, flashed a "V" sign and blew a kiss to his fans outside the courthouse.

He was indicted last April by a state grand jury on 10 felony counts for incidents that allegedly occurred in February and March 2003. The charges include four counts of committing a lewd act on a child; one count of conspiracy to commit child abduction, false imprisonment and extortion; one count of attempting to commit a lewd act on a child; and four counts of administering an intoxicating agent to assist in the commission of a felony.

Jackson has pleaded not guilty to the charges.
[Edited 3/17/05 13:45pm]
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Reply #99 posted 03/17/05 1:47pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

NakedPreacherLady said:



I like that pic. smile

the suit jacket would be okay if he got rid of them stupid military straps. mad


They look like Nazi arm bands.
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Reply #100 posted 03/17/05 2:04pm

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VoicesCarry said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


the suit jacket would be okay if he got rid of them stupid military straps. mad


They look like Nazi arm bands.


rolleyes
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Reply #101 posted 03/17/05 2:09pm

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Marrk said:

[pinocchio's pleasure island article was here]

animal house, mj style? yowzers. eek
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Reply #102 posted 03/17/05 2:45pm

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Marrk said:

VoicesCarry said:



They look like Nazi arm bands.


rolleyes


It's the truth - no rolleyes required. And he wears 'em like a uniform. Can't he mix up his fashions a bit?
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Reply #103 posted 03/17/05 3:00pm

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VoicesCarry said:

Marrk said:



rolleyes


It's the truth - no rolleyes required. And he wears 'em like a uniform. Can't he mix up his fashions a bit?


Totally irrelevant considering he was wearing Sgt Pepper type jackets 20 years ago, why not try posting your opinion on how the trial is going instead of posting junk? (Hence the rolleyes )

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Reply #104 posted 03/17/05 4:57pm

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She said he once pulled a knife on her when they were both in the kitchen and the boy was trying to cook.

She did not say what led to the knife-pulling incident or how it was resolved.


Is the Prosecution out of their fucking minds...Why would they call this woman as a witness. ?????

A knife, a fucking knife....WTF is sneddon doing...this is a joke Didn't he know she would say this.....Stop this madness already.
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Reply #105 posted 03/17/05 6:03pm

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lilgish said:

She said he once pulled a knife on her when they were both in the kitchen and the boy was trying to cook.

She did not say what led to the knife-pulling incident or how it was resolved.


Is the Prosecution out of their fucking minds...Why would they call this woman as a witness. ?????

A knife, a fucking knife....WTF is sneddon doing...this is a joke Didn't he know she would say this.....Stop this madness already.


no R you serious?

Sneddon is getting senile... i know he wants MJ
but this bad?

This is career suicide he's going to be a laughing stock!
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Reply #106 posted 03/17/05 6:10pm

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Luv4oneanotha said:


no R you serious?

It wasn't Gavin, but his brother, but still it undermines him as a supposed eyewitness to the crime...he's pulling a knife on a maid..jeez..a remember this is the prosecutions witness eek
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Reply #107 posted 03/17/05 6:16pm

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Luv4oneanotha said:

lilgish said:



Is the Prosecution out of their fucking minds...Why would they call this woman as a witness. ?????

A knife, a fucking knife....WTF is sneddon doing...this is a joke Didn't he know she would say this.....Stop this madness already.


no R you serious?

Sneddon is getting senile... i know he wants MJ
but this bad?

This is career suicide he's going to be a laughing stock!

Sneddon is a dumb mo fo!! His case against MJ is spiraling its last revolution around the toilet bowl!
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Reply #108 posted 03/17/05 7:09pm

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Marrk said:

VoicesCarry said:



It's the truth - no rolleyes required. And he wears 'em like a uniform. Can't he mix up his fashions a bit?


Totally irrelevant considering he was wearing Sgt Pepper type jackets 20 years ago, why not try posting your opinion on how the trial is going instead of posting junk? (Hence the rolleyes )

wink


An MJ sticky is junk, why stop now?
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Reply #109 posted 03/18/05 1:12am

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In trial testimony, the accuser and his brother said Tyson showed them sexually explicit images over the Internet, at Jackson's suggestion, during their first overnight stay at Neverland.


Damn, so who showed them the port. Mike or Tyson. Make up your mind already.



[quote]You know, I think the general populace, whilt making fun of MJ...really would like all of this to go away too. No one wants to think of him as the creature he's portrayed. If he was to actively seek help, I think it'd be applauded.

You speak of isolation...but I think he's insulated...not exactly isolated. If he was in seclusion and a recluse...we'd see another Sly...and he'd be out of the public eye completely. And if that means holding off on the music or doing the P thing and being an indie for 10 years...then fine. Thing is MJ loves the spotlight like most of his contemporaries.

Aside from all of the trial...the person who needs to help Mike is Mike. He ought to take a look at his whole scene (if that's even possible and make some changes in the way he does things or is viewed as doing things.

If I were Mike, and the trial blows over and he come out of it pretty scratch free, Id take inventory. Mark it up and sell it off. Sell Neverland...consolidate. Relocate in a private location. Create my own studio. Make great music and distribute exclusively over the internet and communicate with my fans only...no media announcements. When everyone has forgotten about meand has stopped following my every move, then maybe come out a little bit.Release an album via a major label...and then become reclusive and elusive.

I don't say this to hurt...but I think it's one of the only ways he can keep on being MJ to the folks that care about him the most after all of this.[list]

Hey, I feel ya. That´s kinda Prince way of living. I am not sure if Mike would be capable of that, cause Prince is all about music, while MJ is all about SHOW, to appreciate his art, you also have to see him dancing and al those videos and he loves what he does. Prince is just about music.
But I don´t know if it would be possible for him to go anywhere and live there silently. I think he´s so famous now, that no matter what, he´ll always bring on publicity. Look at just what is going on now. He hasn´t released an album in few years and wherever he appears it´s still headlines. Well yeah, Mike does love spotlight, that´s true, but too much is too much - even for him I think.
But actually thinking about it, he does live reclusively. I mean if it wasn´t for this damn trial, I mean when did we saw him last time in the public? He doesn´t do interviews, he doesn´t appear on TV, he doesn´t appear on any of the awards shows. You don´t see him often. I think he´s being reclusive enough and changing neverland for an island somewhere might not secure him more privacy.I don´t know.

Anyways guys. Yesterday I was watching VH1 and there was something on Hugh Hefner and I was thinking about how you keep saying that MJ doesn´t act his age and needs a therapy, I mean why ppl don´t say that about Heffner? When is he going to act his age. I mean when you think about it, it´s just sick. Living with eight plastic barbie dools who must be as insane as he is. What type of woman could actually sleep with an old man like him and even didn´t mind sharing him with others. But since, media tell us that his life is actually cool and not sick we see it as cool. But think about it vice versa. What would you think about a woman his age sleeping around with 8 20-year old guys and showing that off publically?
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #110 posted 03/18/05 2:03am

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I just read the court transcript of the 14th and I just wanted to reach
in there and grab the kid to punch him long and hard.

I don't know if that's an authentic transcript or a staged one that is
out to make the boy look like an idiot, but the end result is no doubt
the same lol.

Never mind wether the story is true or false. He should be persecuted
for deliberately trying to be more stupid than is humanly possible.

My toothbrush is bound to respond quicker and more accurate to some of
those questions than that kid.

rolleyes
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #111 posted 03/18/05 5:41am

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IstenSzek said:


My toothbrush is bound to respond quicker and more accurate to some of
those questions than that kid.

rolleyes



lol
Space for sale...
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Reply #112 posted 03/18/05 5:49am

Cloudbuster

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IstenSzek said:

My toothbrush is bound to respond quicker and more accurate to some of
those questions than that kid.

rolleyes



I want your toothbrush. smile
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Reply #113 posted 03/18/05 5:59am

IstenSzek

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Cloudbuster said:

IstenSzek said:

My toothbrush is bound to respond quicker and more accurate to some of
those questions than that kid.

rolleyes



I want your toothbrush. smile



It broke when Christopher made me clean the toilet with it
last week after my dog put a crapper on his helicopter pad

neutral
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #114 posted 03/18/05 6:30am

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Yesterday I was watching VH1 and there was something on Hugh Hefner and I was thinking about how you keep saying that MJ doesn´t act his age and needs a therapy, I mean why ppl don´t say that about Heffner? When is he going to act his age. I mean when you think about it, it´s just sick. Living with eight plastic barbie dools who must be as insane as he is. What type of woman could actually sleep with an old man like him and even didn´t mind sharing him with others. But since, media tell us that his life is actually cool and not sick we see it as cool. But think about it vice versa. What would you think about a woman his age sleeping around with 8 20-year old guys and showing that off publically?

not a very good comparison, as all of hugh's friends are of legal age.
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Reply #115 posted 03/18/05 8:08am

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Gavin as well as his sister and brother and Martin Bshir were all disasters under cross examination. Knowing that, how on earth will the prosecution be able to get a foot in the door at this stage of the case? The kidnapping/false imprisonment charge and the intoxication of a minor charge are LUDICROUS and should have NEVER been brought. As for the molestation charges, Gavin cant even remember the amount of times that MJ allegedly masterbated him. Gavin also says that the molestation began after the Bashir interview and after the Santa Barbara Police had started their investigation! Its RIDICULOUS!

mad mad mad
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Reply #116 posted 03/18/05 8:17am

Cloudbuster

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dreamfactory313 said:

Gavin as well as his sister and brother and Martin Bshir were all disasters under cross examination. Knowing that, how on earth will the prosecution be able to get a foot in the door at this stage of the case? The kidnapping/false imprisonment charge and the intoxication of a minor charge are LUDICROUS and should have NEVER been brought. As for the molestation charges, Gavin cant even remember the amount of times that MJ allegedly masterbated him. Gavin also says that the molestation began after the Bashir interview and after the Santa Barbara Police had started their investigation! Its RIDICULOUS!

mad mad mad


nod The whole thing is a fucking joke.
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Reply #117 posted 03/18/05 8:18am

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IstenSzek said:

Cloudbuster said:

I want your toothbrush. smile



It broke when Christopher made me clean the toilet with it
last week after my dog put a crapper on his helicopter pad

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What did you do with the poo? smile
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Reply #118 posted 03/18/05 8:26am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

dag said:

Yesterday I was watching VH1 and there was something on Hugh Hefner and I was thinking about how you keep saying that MJ doesn´t act his age and needs a therapy, I mean why ppl don´t say that about Heffner? When is he going to act his age. I mean when you think about it, it´s just sick. Living with eight plastic barbie dools who must be as insane as he is. What type of woman could actually sleep with an old man like him and even didn´t mind sharing him with others. But since, media tell us that his life is actually cool and not sick we see it as cool. But think about it vice versa. What would you think about a woman his age sleeping around with 8 20-year old guys and showing that off publically?

not a very good comparison, as all of hugh's friends are of legal age.


Absolutely. MJ's "oddness" has landed him in court. Heff's playmates are old enough to make their own decisions.

The case looks like it's going pretty well for MJ but it should with the money he has undoubtedly spent on defence lawyers. I can't see him coming out ofthis unscathed though. The testimony from his housekeeper today was damaging. He is not looking like a good father or guardian for these kids who he has over to stay or his own.

Very sad stuff.
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Reply #119 posted 03/18/05 8:30am

IstenSzek

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Cloudbuster said:

IstenSzek said:




It broke when Christopher made me clean the toilet with it
last week after my dog put a crapper on his helicopter pad

neutral


What did you do with the poo? smile


I mixed it with bleech and razorblades
and baked him a nice cake to say sorry

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