1 E-Pro
2 Que Onda Guero
3 Girl
4 Missing
5 Black Tambourine
6 Earthquake Weather
7 Hell Yes
8 Broken Drum
9 Scarecrow
10 Go It Alone
11 Farewell Ride
12 Rental Car
13 Emergency Exit
14 Send A Message To Her (Bonus Track for Japan)
15 Chain Reaction (Bonus Track for Japan)
16 Crap Hands (Bonus Track for Japan)
[Edited 3/16/05 3:21am]

I'm moving to Japan.

Hmmm, "Send a message to her" is also on the album that amazon.de has listed. BTW, I don't get this bonus tracks shit... why do the japanese version has more songs? Is it because we started both World Wars? I mean, I'm sorry and all, but...


Checked the songs on amazon, I'm glad there are a couple on there that haven't been leaked.
[Edited 3/16/05 3:31am]

Well, i'm glad to report the finished product is much better than the leaked songs of a few weeks ago. The album still is somewhat of a mixed bag to me: some excellent songs, but some weak songs also. He should've left two or three off imho.

Cloudbuster said:

I've had that same thought.

CinisterCee said:

They always get bonus tracks. Bastards!

SpcMs said:

Agree

SpcMs said:

I agree.

I think Japan always gets bonustracks because the albums cost a lot more
over there than they do over in Europe and the US.

At least, that's what I read on a site that discussed the Bjork extra cd
tracks in Japan.

minneapolisgenius said:[quote]

SpcMs said:

What does it really matter what tracks should be left off on a album? You have a CD Burner right? You become the editor. I never understood why people these days say "Should have left these tracks off" Get out your burner and make it happen.
I'm sorry but there is really no more excuses. An artist is going to pick what he thinks is right for his album. Hindsight is 20/20 and really it doesnt matter in the bigger picture of things.

If this was 1965 and we only had vinyl, then we could really object and say something. But now ? Its so simple to make your version of the album you are satisfied with. That's my 2 cents.

SpcMs said:

What does it really matter what tracks should be left off on a album? You have a CD Burner right? You become the editor. I never understood why people these days say "Should have left these tracks off" Get out your burner and make it happen.
I'm sorry but there is really no more excuses. An artist is going to pick what he thinks is right for his album. Hindsight is 20/20 and really it doesnt matter in the bigger picture of things.

If this was 1965 and we only had vinyl, then we could really object and say something. But now ? Its so simple to make your version of the album you are satisfied with. That's my 2 cents.[/quote]

Trickology said:[quote]

minneapolisgenius said:

Because if we're buying into the (perhaps outdated) concept of albums, then you have to judge the album as a whole. That said, I've only heard those boots in random order, and I agree with the sentiments above. There's something a little dull about the tracks. Curious to hear what Beck (clearly an album believer) has put together for the final product.

MendesCity said:

I dont agree with this. How is an artist to know whats weak to your ear? Again, this is an insane notion that they can distinctively pick what is gonna sound weak to you. Really it's just the listeners perception of listening.
Maybe its weak to you because you are listening for something
that isnt there.


Again, this seems a bit insane for an artist to be able to tell you selectively what a listener wants to hear . Which is why I commented on the fact you can make your own album version. I just believe people don't really get the fact that an artist listening to his own stuff is hearing it different than someone who wasn't in the studio in the process.

Basically Im saying.... every listener thinks he knows the right configuration. But in the end, thats your listening perception. And it's the right configuration for you not for everybody else. You get that?




That's why I find it odd in 2005.


which brings me back to the question

"How is an Artist supposed to know what songs a listener won't care for?"

He is attached to these songs. It's a no win situation. What an A&R is supposed to pick them? Thats going to go over well with the selections.


Its easy to be critical on an artist but for the listener to be critical of himself.

It's like with Prince. I dont look at his albums like a Let down.
I just look at as "This is the space he was in and this is how it came out."
If I happen to not feel it, Im not gonna be like "Oh Prince let me down"
Because I know he did his job of recording sounds and mixing them as he saw them

Do people realize how random and lucky it is to get the right chemistry for a pleasing sounding album of wide array of criticial ears?

Personally, the more and more I hear about people saying "Ah, this album should have been this way"

It just makes me realize how high we pile the B.S. just to not come to terms with The Music process is chaotically random at times.

Things get lost or misstepped in the mix. And thats really that.
Reminds me of Bruce Dickinson in the SNL skit
He stopped the Don't fear the reaper session every 30 seconds

"Needs more cowbell"

Its all random. Cats are way tooo off the mark on what to expect from an artist. IF they put together something and record it thats enough.
Let the chips fall as they may

Thats my philosophy.

The reason Japan has bonus tracks are simply for US Fans to purchase them at a much more expensive cost.. its about money people.