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Thread started 03/15/05 12:19pm

VoicesCarry

Madonna working with Mirwais again

From MTV.com:

Madonna continues to plug away at her new album, and while questions are rampant about what it will sound like and who she's working with, at least the latter part of those queries can now be answered. According to her label rep, Madonna's teamed up once again with French producer Mirwais as well as Stuart Price, her musical director on the Reinvention Tour. At least one song title is known so far: "I Love New York."

Totally fuckin' stupid move, Madge!
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Reply #1 posted 03/15/05 12:22pm

jayaredee

How trustworthy do you find MTV.com?
I don't know where they got that news but i hear it's horseshit razz
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Reply #2 posted 03/15/05 12:23pm

VoicesCarry

jayaredee said:

How trustworthy do you find MTV.com?
I don't know where they got that news but i hear it's horseshit razz


What, did you miss the according to her label rep part?
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Reply #3 posted 03/15/05 12:24pm

jayaredee

VoicesCarry said:

jayaredee said:

How trustworthy do you find MTV.com?
I don't know where they got that news but i hear it's horseshit razz


What, did you miss the according to her label rep part?


lol yes
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Reply #4 posted 03/15/05 12:25pm

VoicesCarry

jayaredee said:

VoicesCarry said:



What, did you miss the according to her label rep part?


lol yes


Ok hug

I find this an alarming prospect at the very least.
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Reply #5 posted 03/15/05 12:26pm

jayaredee

There must be something going on between Mirwais and Madonna. I can't imagine why she would want to continue to work with him anymore.
He's probably going to bring out that tired electronic sound again
I fear the worst
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Reply #6 posted 03/15/05 12:27pm

CynicKill

If Stuart Price is responsible for some of the reworkings I heard during the show then that might not be such a bad idea, but her and Mirwais have RUN their course. She'd be better off hooking up with Daft Punk (long rumored) or Basement Jaxx. If her rock project is a go I'd be ALMOST tempted to say go with The Matrix or Glen Ballard or POSSIBLY everybody's go-to girl Linda Perry.
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Reply #7 posted 03/15/05 12:27pm

VoicesCarry

jayaredee said:

There must be something going on between Mirwais and Madonna. I can't imagine why she would want to continue to work with him anymore.
He's probably going to bring out that tired electronic sound again
I fear the worst


I figure he must have some really weird blackmail secrets or something. Like pics of Madonna farking a horse or something like that. I don't know, for Madonna, it would have to be something REALLY sick.
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Reply #8 posted 03/15/05 12:33pm

jayaredee

VoicesCarry said:

jayaredee said:

There must be something going on between Mirwais and Madonna. I can't imagine why she would want to continue to work with him anymore.
He's probably going to bring out that tired electronic sound again
I fear the worst


I figure he must have some really weird blackmail secrets or something. Like pics of Madonna farking a horse or something like that. I don't know, for Madonna, it would have to be something REALLY sick.


falloff

Yeah for Madonna it would have to be something that would make Michael Jackson's antics seem human.....
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Reply #9 posted 03/15/05 12:39pm

Impressed

MTV.com is definitely trustworthy. They're usually a reputable source.

Madonna with Mirwais? No. That's not a good move. That "Mirwais sound" is soo pre-millennial. "Music" all over again. Maybe the guy's cooking up some hot production for her, who knows?
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Reply #10 posted 03/15/05 12:39pm

jayaredee




Does this seem like Madonna's type?
He doesn't look too British but maybe his looks and ways in bed is what's winning him Madonna's money.
Though if they work together again, i don't anticipate much money in Madonna's pocket sad
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Reply #11 posted 03/15/05 12:42pm

jayaredee

Impressed said:

MTV.com is definitely trustworthy. They're usually a reputable source.

Madonna with Mirwais? No. That's not a good move. That "Mirwais sound" is soo pre-millennial. "Music" all over again. Maybe the guy's cooking up some hot production for her, who knows?


Hmmmmm
it seems a few of her singles charted alright in Europe from AL.
Maybe she's completely out of touch with North America right now and doesn't give a shit about us...
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Reply #12 posted 03/15/05 12:44pm

VoicesCarry

jayaredee said:




Does this seem like Madonna's type?
He doesn't look too British but maybe his looks and ways in bed is what's winning him Madonna's money.
Though if they work together again, i don't anticipate much money in Madonna's pocket sad


That looks like Moby's goin' fishin' down by the ol' mill stream.
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Reply #13 posted 03/15/05 12:48pm

GangstaFam

confused
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Reply #14 posted 03/15/05 12:52pm

jayaredee

GangstaFam said:

confused


Is that your thoughts???
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Reply #15 posted 03/15/05 12:55pm

GangstaFam

jayaredee said:

GangstaFam said:

confused


Is that your thoughts???

I loved American Life, but this is so unlike her to mine the same talent over and over.
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Reply #16 posted 03/15/05 12:55pm

VoicesCarry

GangstaFam said:

jayaredee said:



Is that your thoughts???

I loved American Life, but this is so unlike her to mine the same talent over and over.


Between this and Missy and Britney and The Gap, I think she may be going senile.
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Reply #17 posted 03/15/05 12:58pm

jayaredee

GangstaFam said:

jayaredee said:



Is that your thoughts???

I loved American Life, but this is so unlike her to mine the same talent over and over.


I know it's odd isn't it. I liked AL too but i really don't need anymore of Mirwais electronic sound


Apparently Madonna is on bad terms with Warner now so maybe she purposely wants to make an album no one will buy to screw Warner over.
Kinda like Prince
Which makes me wonder is this why Madonna changed her name to Esther.
Does being attached to Warner's label for a long period of time cause one to want to change their name hence "do i have to change my name???"
Holy crap!!!

Yes i think too much
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Reply #18 posted 03/15/05 12:58pm

jayaredee

VoicesCarry said:

GangstaFam said:


I loved American Life, but this is so unlike her to mine the same talent over and over.


Between this and Missy and Britney and The Gap, I think she may be going senile.


falloff

Old age may be contributing to Madonna's recent antics.
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Reply #19 posted 03/15/05 1:00pm

Impressed

VoicesCarry said:

GangstaFam said:


I loved American Life, but this is so unlike her to mine the same talent over and over.


Between this and Missy and Britney and The Gap, I think she may be going senile.


I think if she did an original Missy production without reworking "Into The Groove" and released it around the time Missy's "Supa Dupa Fly" (or even "Da Real World") came out, she would've gotten more cool points in my book. But when she released that "Into The Hollywood Groove" single a while back, it was already sounding dated and tired. Everyone's worked with Missy, Madonna. You haven't tapped into uncharted territory.
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Reply #20 posted 03/15/05 1:03pm

GangstaFam

VoicesCarry said:

Between this and Missy and Britney and The Gap, I think she may be going senile.

I've got no problems with Missy.

But when I heard about a dance rock album I was kinda excited. We'll see if it pans out.

What I'd really love to see is another r+b record from her.
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Reply #21 posted 03/15/05 1:04pm

VoicesCarry

GangstaFam said:

VoicesCarry said:

Between this and Missy and Britney and The Gap, I think she may be going senile.

I've got no problems with Missy.

But when I heard about a dance rock album I was kinda excited. We'll see if it pans out.

What I'd really love to see is another r+b record from her.


Missy is sooooo 1999, dontcha know?
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Reply #22 posted 03/15/05 1:06pm

GangstaFam

VoicesCarry said:

Missy is sooooo 1999, dontcha know?

Ah well, I still like her. I'll still buy whatever she puts out.
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Reply #23 posted 03/15/05 1:07pm

jayaredee

VoicesCarry said:

GangstaFam said:


I've got no problems with Missy.

But when I heard about a dance rock album I was kinda excited. We'll see if it pans out.

What I'd really love to see is another r+b record from her.


Missy is sooooo 1999, dontcha know?


Exactly, Madonna hopped on the Missy train too late.
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Reply #24 posted 03/15/05 1:30pm

JediMaster

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Mannnnn I hope not. It was obvious to me, the very first time I heard American Life, that her collaboration with Mirwais had run its course. Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy alot of that album, but much of it seemed like a re-tread. I was really excited about the things I was hearing about her new album, but now my hopes are somewhat dashed. sad
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Reply #25 posted 03/15/05 1:35pm

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VoicesCarry said:

From MTV.com:

Madonna continues to plug away at her new album, and while questions are rampant about what it will sound like and who she's working with, at least the latter part of those queries can now be answered. According to her label rep, Madonna's teamed up once again with French producer Mirwais as well as Stuart Price, her musical director on the Reinvention Tour. At least one song title is known so far: "I Love New York."

Totally fuckin' stupid move, Madge!



not completely. while i'd like to see her branch out again, and Mirwais has probably overstayed his welcome (even though AL is one of my favorite albums by her, despite its inconsistency), i can't say i'm TOO disappointed by this. Nothing Fails, Nobody Knows Me, Music, Don't Tell Me, Intervention.... if there's even one song as good as those with him on the new project, then i'll be glad she worked with him again. and we know she's worked with Stuart Price and that Depeche Mode guy, so I have a feeling this is going to be a multi-producer project. her most classic and beloved work is always done when she's working with a handful of (2 or 3) producers, as opposed to just one.

so i'm not all that alarmed by her working with Mirwais again. it could be a situation like Like A Prayer, where it's mostly with one producer, and the old stand-by (Stephen Bray, in that case) got a couple of tracks in there as well. and the album was that much better for it, even though it might've been argued that she'd pretty much used up Stephen Bray by then with LAV, TB, and WTG.

i guess i'm saying that ideally, she'll have a few tracks from Mirwais on there, but the rest of the project will be with new people. not a stupid move for her at all.
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Reply #26 posted 03/15/05 1:35pm

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It's been stated on a couple sites... drownedmadonna.com and madonnalicious.com that Madonna orginally had a much harder sound for the AL album more akin to the Remixed Revisited, but Warners made her go back and soften it up. It failed. Maybe Madonna and Mirwais' first vision would have been spot on. We'll have to see if Warner keeps their ass out of the kitchen this time.
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Reply #27 posted 03/15/05 1:36pm

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Impressed said:

VoicesCarry said:



Between this and Missy and Britney and The Gap, I think she may be going senile.


I think if she did an original Missy production without reworking "Into The Groove" and released it around the time Missy's "Supa Dupa Fly" (or even "Da Real World") came out, she would've gotten more cool points in my book. But when she released that "Into The Hollywood Groove" single a while back, it was already sounding dated and tired. Everyone's worked with Missy, Madonna. You haven't tapped into uncharted territory.



well, let's be clear. that's not exactly how it happened. it wasn't a single, it was a commercial jingle, and they were both in the commercial, so that's why it was done that way.
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Reply #28 posted 03/15/05 2:06pm

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ehuffnsd said:

It's been stated on a couple sites... drownedmadonna.com and madonnalicious.com that Madonna orginally had a much harder sound for the AL album more akin to the Remixed Revisited, but Warners made her go back and soften it up. It failed. Maybe Madonna and Mirwais' first vision would have been spot on. We'll have to see if Warner keeps their ass out of the kitchen this time.


she punked out because she didn't want 2 be Dixie Chicked!Should have stuck to her guns.
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Reply #29 posted 03/15/05 2:12pm

SassyBritches

jayaredee said:




Does this seem like Madonna's type?
He doesn't look too British but maybe his looks and ways in bed is what's winning him Madonna's money.
Though if they work together again, i don't anticipate much money in Madonna's pocket sad

um, that's because he's french. wink
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