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Reply #90 posted 03/14/05 4:19pm

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LightOfArt said:







Mike looks sexy in this one.
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Reply #91 posted 03/14/05 6:16pm

Anxiety

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Anxiety said:

i think you may be confusing being gay with being a pedophile, which are two completely different things.


falloff I sure hope so! falloff
This is so odd to read, yet you probaly thought it
with a completely stright face


which, it could be argued, says a whole lot more about you than it says about me. neutral
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Reply #92 posted 03/14/05 6:36pm

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prince doesn't need to pretend that he is some imaginary character out of a book for kids to feel needed and to cure his "loneliness".

Prince isn't weird, he's just very specific and caters to him and his needs. He only lives inside his special little comfort zone/space that allows him to stay arrogant.

MJ on the other hand, is always looking for a plastic surgery procedure to help him feel better in his comfort zone/space surrounded by little admirers.

Prince is a man living inside a man's body
MJ is a boy living inside a man's body

need i say more??
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Reply #93 posted 03/14/05 6:45pm

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Anxiety said:

thecableguy said:


gay - trial is on going, but one can hope he is not


i don't think he's on trial for being gay. and why hope that he isn't? i think you may be confusing being gay with being a pedophile, which are two completely different things.


He may not be on trial for being gay, but if his actions were with girls, people would look at it completly different.
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Reply #94 posted 03/14/05 6:47pm

Anxiety

lilgish said:

Anxiety said:



i don't think he's on trial for being gay. and why hope that he isn't? i think you may be confusing being gay with being a pedophile, which are two completely different things.


He may not be on trial for being gay, but if his actions were with girls, people would look at it completly different.


yeah. r. kelly's shenanigans weren't exactly a boost to his career, but he seemed to have been able to get away with it. you can violate a young girl and sexualize it into the possibility of some kind of 'lolita' scenario, but when the idea of a young male's masculinity being violated comes into play, all of a sudden it's a horrific atrocity.

it's like, which is it, people???
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Reply #95 posted 03/14/05 8:07pm

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in all seriousness this is a bit of a sad thread.
its as if all that michaels done and accomplished has been for nothing, just because of some changes. yet princes changes or flip outs on makes him misunderstood or a temporary jackass.

that being said i have this 2 say.

i wouldn't call either strange, however, both in my opinion got some emotional issues.
as for michael, he's a victim of his childhood and fame.
and as for his face, get over it.
have of hollywood is nipped tucked and thinned in one way or another.
whats so diferent about michael jackson? is it that his color has changed?
i personally believe he has vitiligo, BUT lets just say he did do something 2 his skin for whatever reasons. let him be. thats his decision. and IF it does stem from some sort of black self hatred why get on him for it? and if ur gonna get on the other nameless people who feel like that.
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Reply #96 posted 03/14/05 8:11pm

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Moonwalkbjrain said:

in all seriousness this is a bit of a sad thread.
its as if all that michaels done and accomplished has been for nothing,


There's a Michael Jackson/Jackson’s/Jackson 5 music thread in here everyday and he hasn't done new material in 4 years. Michael has more threads in here than any other artist (I Would say madonna was second). Other acts also have threads about their behavior.
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Reply #97 posted 03/14/05 8:37pm

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What's this I hear about P doing plastic surgery?
Don't hurt me, I'm a newb. I'm supposed to be stupid.
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Reply #98 posted 03/15/05 5:04am

LightOfArt

Krayzie you're embarassing yourself honey lol lol

That was the reason I didnt want to post pics in the first plave, stupid people would want to ignore it. But I couldnt resist when you posted that picture lol
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Reply #99 posted 03/16/05 9:41am

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Anxiety said:

lilgish said:



He may not be on trial for being gay, but if his actions were with girls, people would look at it completly different.


yeah. r. kelly's shenanigans weren't exactly a boost to his career, but he seemed to have been able to get away with it. you can violate a young girl and sexualize it into the possibility of some kind of 'lolita' scenario, but when the idea of a young male's masculinity being violated comes into play, all of a sudden it's a horrific atrocity.

it's like, which is it, people???


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Reply #100 posted 03/16/05 1:46pm

TurnItUp

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VanitySixx said:



From what I understand, he'd had vitiligo for a long time before anyone (the public) had any idea as to what was going on. It was stated that he first began getting splotches on his hand which was the reason for the one glove thing back in the early 80's. When Bad came out (a few years after Thriller) he was a lighter brown. It wasn't until he came out again with Dangerous in the early 90's (about 10 years after Thriller) that his pigment was totally gone.

I can't speak on his treatment or say for a fact that he actually does have vitiligo. In my first post, all I was saying was that a person WITH color can get vitiligo and turn completely white, which apparently you already knew.

If he does have it, I don't think that you can comment on his course of action or as to how severe it was or wasn't in it's early stages. Unless you're there seeing him WITHOUT his MAKEUP how can any of us know. It's all just speculation.

I'm just choosing to give him the benefit of the doubt. There are many things about him and his actions that are strange to me. I don't think that he "bleached" his skin although that seems to be the popular opinion however, without facts, opinions are all any of us are left with.

I did a little research and found a few answers to the vitiligo questions in general. The second Q & A can probably explain the reason for the different shades he went through before he reached his current color.

Q. Will the Depigmented Patches Spread?

A. There is no way to predict if vitiligo will spread. For some people, the depigmented patches do not spread. The disorder is usually progressive, however, and over time the white patches will spread to other areas of the body. For some people, vitiligo spreads slowly, over many years. For other people, spreading occurs rapidly. Some people have reported additional depigmentation following periods of physical or emotional stress.

Q. What Treatment Options Are Available?
A. Depigmentation is a treatment that involves fading the rest of the skin on the body to match the already white areas. For people who have vitiligo on more than 50 percent of their bodies, depigmentation may be the best treatment option. Patients apply the drug monobenzylether of hydroquinone (monobenzone or Benoquin*) twice a day to pigmented areas until they match the already depigmented areas.


neutral Shave my nose down to nothing. Oh, and I have vitiligo too - how convenient! neutral


Vertiligo my ass! Michael used injections to make his skin lighter because he wanted to be white. Plain and simple. He probably kept screwing with the injections so much that it destroyed his pigmentation. He did not want to be black and he had to money to do it.
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Reply #101 posted 03/16/05 1:48pm

TurnItUp

LightOfArt said:

krayzie said:

This pic is fake...

This pic was taking during the Triumph tour (1981), and in this time MJ didn't suffer of vitiligo...

Ha Ha...
What the joke...

It's a photoshopped...
If this pic was real EVERYbody would talking about that in this time...

Everybody know that MJ hated him AS A BLACK MAN...


No he had vitiligo since Off The Wall accordıng to him. There are pictures of him from Thriller era when he is swimming and you can see white blotches on his chest. I think it can be seen on his Private Home Movies too and it is a video. I have dozens of pics of hım with vitiligo but it is usless to post some guys dont want to beleive it anyway so they can justify their dislike disbelief


Bullshit! I don't care what private home movies you got. Read what I said above.
Believe what you want.
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Reply #102 posted 03/16/05 1:52pm

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krayzie said:



Excuse me but, Are you stupid ????

Do you know that it's only a light effect on his skin ... lol

It s like saying : oh look at this guy, he suffer of vitiligo ...




Thats the biggest bunch of bullshit. You can clearly see his condition on his chest even in the none zoomed in picture of him. That 'Light' theory is bullshit.


Your theory is bullshit. lol You can clearly see that he used bleaching cream or injections. Come on with the jokes.
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Reply #103 posted 03/16/05 1:54pm

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missfee said:

prince doesn't need to pretend that he is some imaginary character out of a book for kids to feel needed and to cure his "loneliness".

Prince isn't weird, he's just very specific and caters to him and his needs. He only lives inside his special little comfort zone/space that allows him to stay arrogant.

MJ on the other hand, is always looking for a plastic surgery procedure to help him feel better in his comfort zone/space surrounded by little admirers.

Prince is a man living inside a man's body
MJ is a boy living inside a man's body

need i say more??


On the last sentence don't you mean MJ is living inside a white woman's body. confused
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Reply #104 posted 03/16/05 3:41pm

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I already said Prince jokingly, but considering Prince was a grown ass man in '78 and has never endured the level of fame Michael achieved at any point in his career i see no reason for him to behave the way he does at times.

Acting like a knob in restaurants as recently as this year and ordering bodyguards into stealing digital cameras after a guy has taken photos of you in airports isn't the way to go if you want to project normality.

At least Michael has never verbally denied being black, Prince pretended differently as far back as 1980. he stated he was half-Italian in 1980. what a knob.

To this day newbies on this board will question his ethnicity.

I'm not denying Michael is weird, but he has more reason to be IMO.
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Reply #105 posted 03/16/05 5:21pm

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Marrk said:

he stated he was half-Italian in 1980.



Some people still think that.

Everyone knows P has issues with being black and being able to pass, but he's just one of many who’ve had to deal with that, his fame didn't make it any better.
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Reply #106 posted 03/16/05 6:45pm

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Marrk said:

I already said Prince jokingly, but considering Prince was a grown ass man in '78 and has never endured the level of fame Michael achieved at any point in his career i see no reason for him to behave the way he does at times.

Acting like a knob in restaurants as recently as this year and ordering bodyguards into stealing digital cameras after a guy has taken photos of you in airports isn't the way to go if you want to project normality.

At least Michael has never verbally denied being black, Prince pretended differently as far back as 1980. he stated he was half-Italian in 1980. what a knob.

To this day newbies on this board will question his ethnicity.

I'm not denying Michael is weird, but he has more reason to be IMO.


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Reply #107 posted 03/17/05 9:42am

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Marrk said:

I already said Prince jokingly, but considering Prince was a grown ass man in '78 and has never endured the level of fame Michael achieved at any point in his career i see no reason for him to behave the way he does at times.

Acting like a knob in restaurants as recently as this year and ordering bodyguards into stealing digital cameras after a guy has taken photos of you in airports isn't the way to go if you want to project normality.

At least Michael has never verbally denied being black, Prince pretended differently as far back as 1980. he stated he was half-Italian in 1980. what a knob.

To this day newbies on this board will question his ethnicity.

I'm not denying Michael is weird, but he has more reason to be IMO.

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Well you have no idea what his home life may have been like or what it may have been like to grow-up in white dominated city in the 60's and 70's.

He is not blue black but not quite light enough to pass. I am sure he was getting crap from blacks and white at a early age. I was believed that half-ilalian thing had a lot to do with not wanting to be stuck on the RnB circuit.

I think a lot of people forget that black artist did not cross over big in music until Mike Jackson came along with Thiller.
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Reply #108 posted 03/17/05 9:45am

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missfee said:

prince doesn't need to pretend that he is some imaginary character out of a book for kids to feel needed and to cure his "loneliness".

Prince isn't weird, he's just very specific and caters to him and his needs. He only lives inside his special little comfort zone/space that allows him to stay arrogant.

MJ on the other hand, is always looking for a plastic surgery procedure to help him feel better in his comfort zone/space surrounded by little admirers.

Prince is a man living inside a man's body
MJ is a boy living inside a man's body

need i say more??

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NO, you don't need to say more. You summed it up well.
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Reply #109 posted 03/18/05 7:54pm

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Reply #110 posted 03/20/05 3:22pm

threat

TurnItUp said:

threat said:



Thats the biggest bunch of bullshit. You can clearly see his condition on his chest even in the none zoomed in picture of him. That 'Light' theory is bullshit.


Your theory is bullshit. lol You can clearly see that he used bleaching cream or injections. Come on with the jokes.


Magic 'Bleaching Cream' or Magic 'injection', kitten, i think you need to cann the jokes.
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Reply #111 posted 03/23/05 1:59pm

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threat said:

TurnItUp said:



Your theory is bullshit. lol You can clearly see that he used bleaching cream or injections. Come on with the jokes.


Magic 'Bleaching Cream' or Magic 'injection', kitten, i think you need to cann the jokes.


You right. I need to cann your jokes. The light is skin is caused by injections. That vitiligo mess is bullshit. Kitten.
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Reply #112 posted 03/24/05 2:33pm

threat

TurnItUp said:

threat said:



Magic 'Bleaching Cream' or Magic 'injection', kitten, i think you need to cann the jokes.


You right. I need to cann your jokes. The light is skin is caused by injections. That vitiligo mess is bullshit. Kitten.


Yeah! your stupid.
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Reply #113 posted 03/24/05 5:24pm

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I havent read this thread, but fuck sake, its a joke. Jacko is a paedo. Enough said
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Reply #114 posted 03/25/05 4:54pm

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Ummmm....Prince is not strange. Michael Jackson is an idiot. Anyone that would have that much surgeries and hurt themselves like that is a lunatic. Mj fans just dont want mj to be a wacko alone. WELL MJ FANS YOUR IDOL IS A WACKO and u can't do anything about it. And this is assuming MJ didn't do terrible things to those kids. If he did then that makes him crazier!
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Reply #115 posted 03/25/05 9:06pm

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There is so much immaturity on this board and its gettin on my nerves now.
If yall got any differences against any one of these brilliant people THEN COOL THEN. BUT KNOW what you are talking about and DON'T bring it across in a disrespectful and derrogatory manner. I know yall been taught better than that. IM NOT EVEN OF LEGAL AGE AND YALL ARE ACTIN' LIKE SOME DAMN FOOLS!

there is a way to your point across but this is rediculous. Some of yall {not saying any names} asound just as much as wierd and fucked up as yall claim someone else to be.

THIS BULLSHIT IS GETTIN OLD, REAL QUICK!


I want somebody to try to challange this.....I want it SO bad too.
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Reply #116 posted 03/26/05 4:32am

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Zxrl25 said:

Ummmm....Prince is not strange. Michael Jackson is an idiot. Anyone that would have that much surgeries and hurt themselves like that is a lunatic. Mj fans just dont want mj to be a wacko alone. WELL MJ FANS YOUR IDOL IS A WACKO and u can't do anything about it. And this is assuming MJ didn't do terrible things to those kids. If he did then that makes him crazier!


fare enough that you have your opinion on mj fans. but prince "fans" also have to also realise that Prince has changed a lot since he was young, he was black now he's almost white, and don't even try and challenge that, and his nose is obviously thinner. he has just been more successful and discrete about his changes whereas with mj, he went too far. i think prince fans are more touchy on this subject than mj fans are, it's almost as if prince fans can't accept that he's human. be real.
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Reply #117 posted 03/26/05 9:09am

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There is so much immaturity on this board and its gettin on my nerves now.
If yall got any differences against any one of these brilliant people THEN COOL THEN. BUT KNOW what you are talking about and DON'T bring it across in a disrespectful and derrogatory manner. I know yall been taught better than that. IM NOT EVEN OF LEGAL AGE AND YALL ARE ACTIN' LIKE SOME DAMN FOOLS!

there is a way to your point across but this is rediculous. Some of yall {not saying any names} asound just as much as wierd and fucked up as yall claim someone else to be.

THIS BULLSHIT IS GETTIN OLD, REAL QUICK!


I want somebody to try to challange this.....I want it SO bad too.


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