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Reply #120 posted 03/11/05 3:52am

jayaredee

shygirl said:

Note to Michael: When you are claiming to have a back injury so severe that it sends you to the emergency room, don't swivel around and wave to the few fans you have left, just like you've done everyday of the trial.
I watched the video of him finally arriving at the courthouse and he did that same turn he's done everyday. If his back was hurting so bad, he would have turned his whole body to face the fans, not just turn at the waist. Michael Jackson is the biggest liar and drama queen on the planet. His next STUNT will probably be fainting in the courtroom. No, since cameras aren't allowed in the courtroom, he'll faint outside, while he's walking to the courthouse. He wouldn't want to deny the world THAT performance. rolleyes



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Yes shygirl you are so right.
He is taking this court business as such a joke, and it's for such a serious charge.
He wants to make himself look like an ass and get attention, fine. But all the media attention he is given is all negative.
He's made himself out to be a real fool
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Reply #121 posted 03/11/05 3:53am

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MJsGrandMotherFromBeyondTheGrave said:

"What's all this talk about my Grandson touching kids and stuff?"



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Reply #122 posted 03/11/05 3:54am

jayaredee

Cloudbuster said:

MJsGrandMotherFromBeyondTheGrave said:

"What's all this talk about my Grandson touching kids and stuff?"



whofarted



falloff falloff falloff falloff falloff falloff
lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol


OMG this made my day
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Reply #123 posted 03/11/05 3:56am

jayaredee

krayzie said:

dag said:


well, I wasn´t talking about you, but generally, that there are a lot of ppl who want to believe the charges.

Well, of course it´s not appropriate that he showed up in pyjamas, but again i don´t know. I don´t think it was intended. Well, we´ll see.

As for that bitch comment, again it´s only about what the media WANT to show you. Again, they again take things out of contest and show you him acting "weirdly" all the time. Cause otherwise what would be the point of reporting if they showed him acting "normal" - that´s not worth reporting that Michael Jackson acted "normally" today. So all we get are only those weirldy looking images that we are supposed to base our opinions on.


I don't think people want to bring him down cause he's famous, rich and so perfect...

Back in the day, people used to think that he was gay because of his very high voice and the fact that we never saw him dating some girls like his brothers...


Then people started to think he was weird when he changed RADICALLY his face (nose, hair, lips, cheekbone, eyes and I don't talk about skin colour),and behaved more and more strangely...

This is the same for every artists who look strange to the people... Even Prince was seen as a weird guy, and the public started to think he was gay...

People are always more convinced of someone's culpability if this person seems strange to them...

If Mike was seen as a "normal" black man and behaves like a "normal" guy, I'm sure that people weren't so easily convinced of his culpability...

Mike is today saw as a strange guy BECAUSE of his strange behaviours, not because he's famous or so "talented" and soperfect...

Nothing to say....
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EXACTLY
His talent and such is totally irrelevant as compared to his bizarre and silly behavior
dag, take note!!
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Reply #124 posted 03/11/05 4:00am

Novabreaker

Why the hell didn't he just lend his bodyguard's pants?!? Sure they wouldn't have been a perfect fit, but it's not like those pajamas would be either. Maybe he was just being thoughtful and thinking that maybe taking other people's pants and forcing them to wear a mismatching outfit instead of yourself would be against ethics? I'm sure he has read Kant. hmmm

Of course, if a doctor at the hospital states Michael's pains were real we have to take them as real, and not think of it as a stunt. If it was a stunt, I have no idea what the hell he thought he'd achieve by it. Michael... you're sometimes such a pussy.
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Reply #125 posted 03/11/05 4:33am

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Can't we keep this on the trial itself, what happens there?
All this "only he's too blame", "he's normal", " he's not normal", "he makes a joke out of this" will lead to nothing.
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Reply #126 posted 03/11/05 4:42am

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calldapplwondery83 said:

Can't we keep this on the trial itself, what happens there?
All this "only he's too blame", "he's normal", " he's not normal", "he makes a joke out of this" will lead to nothing.


absolutely, i rather talk about the case itselfs, then the circle of arguements or yes and no's..



I do not wish Michael to be innocent because I am a fan, I wish him to be innocent because I would feel better if there was one less Paedophile in the world.
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Reply #127 posted 03/11/05 5:24am

doctormcmeekle

I don't care about the facts! I say he's guilty!!

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Reply #128 posted 03/11/05 5:34am

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doctormcmeekle said:

I don't care about the facts! I say he's guilty!!

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well lets see how you will if someone was trying to set you up and you weren't given a chance to prove to them that you are innocent...I don't think you would be the most happiest person in the world. neutral
I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #129 posted 03/11/05 5:37am

Cloudbuster

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missfee said:

doctormcmeekle said:

I don't care about the facts! I say he's guilty!!

:thumpsfist:

well lets see how you will if someone was trying to set you up and you weren't given a chance to prove to them that you are innocent...I don't think you would be the most happiest person in the world. neutral


He was joking. lol
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Reply #130 posted 03/11/05 5:49am

doctormcmeekle

Cloudbuster said:

missfee said:


well lets see how you will if someone was trying to set you up and you weren't given a chance to prove to them that you are innocent...I don't think you would be the most happiest person in the world. neutral


He was joking. lol

Or was I.....?

hmmm










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Reply #131 posted 03/11/05 7:38am

DarlinLaurie

dag said:

I'm not questioning his talent. I have several of his albums. But it's hard to stand behind a grown man that won't own up to his reponsibilities. "Man that can have it all." ? What exactly is all? Living in his own reality? If he wants people to rally around and support him then he needs to project a stronger image at 46 years old, instead of trotting around like the victim all the time. His stunt showing up in pajamas???? I mean come on. Have some common sense.

no. the thing is that none of us know the truth about his condition. It´s about what we believe. You can believe that common sense tells you he faked it. My common sence tells me is that he´d be the biggest idiot in the world, to risk jailtime for nothing and I don´t believe he´s not that stupid. If you do, than that´s your business.

And that having everything quote was about (I believe) him having it all during the Thriller days. Ppl had to have something to bring him down, cause nobody could be that perfect, right? So talented, so rich, so famous, so everything, no drugs, no nothing and yet NORMAL. And the proof of it is in this case. Look how many ppl LOVE to believe he molested this kid, yet so far noone has seen any EVIDENCE for it. Instead of believing in his innocent cause he was once this cool guy, they believe he´s guilty and wait for someone to PROVE them he´s not. It should be the other way round.


If you think Michael Jackson was EVER normal you're completely delusional. Face it MJ has no concept of reality and even his own documentary is strange. I like his music, but I certainly do not think he is normal!
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Reply #132 posted 03/11/05 7:42am

Novabreaker

Fuck that shit. I'm not normal either.
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Reply #133 posted 03/11/05 8:03am

Cloudbuster

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Who the hell wants to be normal? Normal is just another word for boring. smile
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Reply #134 posted 03/11/05 8:16am

namepeace

LightOfArt said:

So, what's jury gonna think? So he doesnt take the case seriously let's send him to jail? hmm hmmm


Some juries wouldn't. Some juries would. That's why I am furious that he'd do that. Why take a chance if the trial is going so well for you?
Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016

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Reply #135 posted 03/11/05 10:10am

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doctormcmeekle said:

Cloudbuster said:



He was joking. lol

Or was I.....?

hmmm










wink


Beast Alert evillol

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Reply #136 posted 03/11/05 10:15am

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The boy said Jackson molested him twice, both times in the singer's bedroom. He said they both wore pairs of Jackson's pajamas.


The second incident occurred "about a day after" the first encounter, he said. In the second instance, he said, he resisted an attempt by Jackson to place the boy's hand on Jackson's genitals.


The accuser's testimony differed from his 14-year-old brother's description of witnessing two molestations, and it was unclear if they were talking about the same alleged incidents. The brother said Jackson and the boy were in underwear and that the boy was asleep. The brother also said the boy was on top of the bedcovers.



See that's some booshitsky right there. There has yet to be one colaborative story yet.



I will admit...I believe the alcohol part, I believe a few of the weird stories like maybe the ones about the magazines...and perhaps when MJ showed up naked. Perhaps.

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Reply #137 posted 03/11/05 10:23am

slm4m

Imagine if michael's back goes out during the walk in to the court house. He'd be all hunched over and when asked if he was in any pain, his bodyguards heard him sing, (to the tune of Thriller)"..the pain is killer, killer, yeah!!!!!"
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Reply #138 posted 03/11/05 10:30am

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It’s gotten to the point where I’m taking this shit way too personal. You can imagine my disbelief when I checked for the trail news yesterday….Late!!! That Negro is late for Court again!!!!! You woulda thought the guy was family, god I was upset, especially since the defense has done so great. About Five years ago my love for rock waned and I started getting back into the music I loved as a kid (Michael, Stevie, Prince).

I decided to a Divination for Michael. It was positive. Mike should realize a lot of people love him and don’t hate him, but are just disappointed and frustrated by his conduct. That victim act has to go, at some point you have to stop whining and take responsibility for what’s important.
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Reply #139 posted 03/11/05 10:35am

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LightOfArt said:

To give you an exapmle: When he made Oxford speech, all media were interested were if his leg was really broken and that he sure is faking in. His legacy was completely ignored. How pathetic!


exactly. that was so pathetic

And I think a lot of people will eat loadsa crow when the trial is over. cool
Oh please. I think Michael's fucked up now and I will still think he's fucked up then. The way I feel about this whole thing has less to do with whether I think MJ is innocent or guilty but his nonchalant attitude over this and some of his fans' attitude over this.
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Reply #140 posted 03/11/05 10:45am

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I´ve said all I wanted, I am not gonna respond more on that, cause it´s useless anyway.

Who the hell wants to be normal? Normal is just another word for boring.

That was a good one. biggrin

And to all of you - the best critisism is to do it better! Once some of you will achieve only HALF of the things MJ has achieved than plz come here and tell me he´s fucked up. Till than, live your perfectly normal quiet life and leave him alone.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #141 posted 03/11/05 11:10am

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dag said:

leave him alone.


Just Stop Doggin' Me Around
Don't Care What You Talkin'
'Bout Baby
I Don't Care What You Say
Don't You Come Walkin'
Beggin' Back Mama
I Don't Care Anyway
Time After Time I Gave You All Of My Money
No Excuses To Make
Ain't No Mountain That I
Can't Climb Baby
All Is Going My Way

('Cause There's A Time When
You're Right)
(And You Know You Must
Fight)
Who's Laughing Baby, Don't
You Know
(And There's The Choice That
We Make)
(And This Choice You Will
Take)
Who's Laughin' Baby
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Reply #142 posted 03/11/05 11:11am

jayaredee

dag said:

I´ve said all I wanted, I am not gonna respond more on that, cause it´s useless anyway.

Who the hell wants to be normal? Normal is just another word for boring.

That was a good one. biggrin

And to all of you - the best critisism is to do it better! Once some of you will achieve only HALF of the things MJ has achieved than plz come here and tell me he´s fucked up. Till than, live your perfectly normal quiet life and leave him alone.


dag, what do his acheivments have to do with his behavior????
please try to present relevant arguments
people here have said time and time again that the recognize MJ's talents.... But that has nothing to do with what is going on now.
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Reply #143 posted 03/11/05 11:50am

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dag, what do his acheivments have to do with his behavior????
please try to present relevant arguments
people here have said time and time again that the recognize MJ's talents.... But that has nothing to do with what is going on now.

Because his achievements are what made him famous and his fame is what brought him that type of life. If he was just an avarage Joe do you think he´d end up like that? Do you think Elvis, Cobain and others would have ended the way they did if they haven´t become famous? Fame is a hard thing to handle so what I meant was that once you´ll have as chalenging life as he does, than you have the right to say oh, he´s a freak, cause I´ve been in the same position and have ended in a much better way.

I just think it´s cruel for the world to judge him in such a way when actually nobody knows what they´re talking about and what it must be like for him.

To me saying he faked that just to make himself more interesting is ridiculous. If his explanation was good enough for the judge I don´t understand why it´s not good enough for the public.

It´s just sick for me to watch how he simply can´t do anything without it being seen as something else.
He gets married but not for love it´s a PR stunt - cause of course he can´t have a feelings.
He breaks his leg - of course for PR reasons - that´s what usually ppl do to get attention.
He starts vomiting - of course he does it just for "fun" - as if none of us ever got sick.
and the list goes on and on.

Hey guys, He´s ONLY HUMAN, if you haven´t noticed!!!!! I don´t know when he´s supposed to do everything so the timing would be appropriate for you and not suspicious.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #144 posted 03/11/05 11:50am

namepeace

dag, sorry, but many of us are hard on him because we remember him and listen to him for his unique talents. lilgish and others nailed it, his counsel is doing a fantastic job digging him out of a hole and he just digs the hole deeper with his conduct.

As for the "leave me alone" references, I could understand those feelings when he was being scrutinized for his eccentricities. But when it comes to allegations of serious, serious abuse, he should NOT be left alone.
Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016

Props will be withheld until the showing and proving has commenced. -- Aaron McGruder
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Reply #145 posted 03/11/05 12:14pm

Handclapsfinga
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namepeace said:

As for the "leave me alone" references, I could understand those feelings when he was being scrutinized for his eccentricities. But when it comes to allegations of serious, serious abuse, he should NOT be left alone.

thank you. this is what some mj fans don't seem to grasp.
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Reply #146 posted 03/11/05 12:16pm

Rhondab

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

LightOfArt said:



exactly. that was so pathetic

And I think a lot of people will eat loadsa crow when the trial is over. cool
Oh please. I think Michael's fucked up now and I will still think he's fucked up then. The way I feel about this whole thing has less to do with whether I think MJ is innocent or guilty but his nonchalant attitude over this and some of his fans' attitude over this.



AMEN!!!!

My feelings exactly!!!
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Reply #147 posted 03/11/05 12:31pm

TheOrgerFormer
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dag said:

dag, what do his acheivments have to do with his behavior????
please try to present relevant arguments
people here have said time and time again that the recognize MJ's talents.... But that has nothing to do with what is going on now.

Because his achievements are what made him famous and his fame is what brought him that type of life. If he was just an avarage Joe do you think he´d end up like that? Do you think Elvis, Cobain and others would have ended the way they did if they haven´t become famous? Fame is a hard thing to handle so what I meant was that once you´ll have as chalenging life as he does, than you have the right to say oh, he´s a freak, cause I´ve been in the same position and have ended in a much better way.
I just think it´s cruel for the world to judge him in such a way when actually nobody knows what they´re talking about and what it must be like for him.

To me saying he faked that just to make himself more interesting is ridiculous. If his explanation was good enough for the judge I don´t understand why it´s not good enough for the public.

It´s just sick for me to watch how he simply can´t do anything without it being seen as something else.
He gets married but not for love it´s a PR stunt - cause of course he can´t have a feelings.
He breaks his leg - of course for PR reasons - that´s what usually ppl do to get attention.
He starts vomiting - of course he does it just for "fun" - as if none of us ever got sick.
and the list goes on and on.

Hey guys, He´s ONLY HUMAN, if you haven´t noticed!!!!! I don´t know when he´s supposed to do everything so the timing would be appropriate for you and not suspicious.
Why is it that when we talk about people, it always has to be someone's jealous? If Michael Jackson had been anyone else, they would have been thrown in jail for showing up late for court. You want us to think he's normal, but he shouldn't get normal's folks treatment? Make up your mind, dag.

As for the bolded statement:

When MJ has been molested by three different men, raped in front of his children or been through half the shit I have personally been through, I might excuse him for some of the stunts he pulls. His daddy beat him and made him work through his childhood. Big fucking deal.

Michael may have had a challenging childhood but when he became an adult, if he didn't want to remain famous and in that limelight, he didn't have to.

Yes, I know what it is like to have a challenging life and if I fuck up, nothing that happened to me in that life would excuse a goddamn thing I do.
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Reply #148 posted 03/11/05 12:49pm

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I guess nothing going on at the court today, cause we are back in MJ's mental discussion mode. biggrin

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Reply #149 posted 03/11/05 1:20pm

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BlueNote said:

I guess nothing going on at the court today, cause we are back in MJ's mental discussion mode. biggrin

BlueNote


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