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Reply #30 posted 03/13/05 8:34am

sosgemini

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VinnyM27 said:

WhamBamGlamSlam said:



No, now that I think back to her time as a convict and a baseball player. Didn't she she run Argentina for a while before the True Blue album too? As far as Camille Paglia, talk about horrid.


How is Camille Paglia? I hear her name often connected to Madonna. Did she used to manager her or something?



she's an woman's rights activist.
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Reply #31 posted 03/14/05 5:40am

DavidEye

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WhamBamGlamSlam said:


In Madonna's case - since when does picking bad movies make you a bad actor? The best have done it. Her work in Dangerous Game should have been enough to silence the naysayers. People choose to think it's worse than it really is.



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she was horrid in Dangerous Games..And no, its not just the films..her performances themselves are horrid..Camille Pagllia did a wonderful essay on why madonna's perfromances suck so bad..ill have to see if i can find it and post it.....

that being said, madge is great when she plays herself...ala Who's That Girl and A League of Our Own....but thats not acting now is it?

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Honestly,I don't think Madonna is that bad as an actress.Yes,she has had her share of flops,but she has also had her share of decent performances too.For example,I love her in 'Whos' That Girl'.I really don't see anything wrong with her performance in that film.Some of her movies would be bad no matter who starred in them: the campy 'Body Of Evidence' is a prime example.This proves that she doesn't always pick the right roles.

Maddy has correctly pointed out that,because of who she is,people don't take her seriously as an actress.Her superstar persona tends to overwhelm any movie project that she is involved in.It suddenly becomes a "Madonna movie",even though there are other actors in the movie with her (lol).She has to (unfairly) carry the weight if the film should fail."I get blamed for everything",she once said.

But having said that,I really think she should make it easy on herself and just stick to small supporting roles.She got great reviews for her performances in films like 'Dick Tracy' and 'A League Of Their Own'....films in which she was a team player,and not the star.She could gain alot more credibility if she stuck to these types of roles.She could show the world that she is serious about acting,and that she is not some ego-driven music superstar who is desperate to win an Oscar (lol).
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Reply #32 posted 03/14/05 5:43am

jayaredee

Madonna is not a good actress, but i love her films just cause of her being in them.

I will always forgive her acting just because of Evita. That movie has touched me in ways like no other.
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Reply #33 posted 03/14/05 5:47am

VoicesCarry

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Maddy has correctly pointed out that,because of who she is,people don't take her seriously as an actress.Her superstar persona tends to overwhelm any movie project that she is involved in.It suddenly becomes a "Madonna movie",even though there are other actors in the movie with her (lol).She has to (unfairly) carry the weight if the film should fail."I get blamed for everything",she once said.


What a piss-poor excuse. There are superstars who are able to transcend their images on a regular basis and actually act. She is not one of them.
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Reply #34 posted 03/14/05 5:50am

DavidEye

VoicesCarry said:

DavidEye said:

Maddy has correctly pointed out that,because of who she is,people don't take her seriously as an actress.Her superstar persona tends to overwhelm any movie project that she is involved in.It suddenly becomes a "Madonna movie",even though there are other actors in the movie with her (lol).She has to (unfairly) carry the weight if the film should fail."I get blamed for everything",she once said.


What a piss-poor excuse. There are superstars who are able to transcend their images on a regular basis and actually act. She is not one of them.



"I've done eleven movies---twelve if you count 'Truth Or Dare'.I think that half of them are good,and half of them are shit.But honestly,I can name Academy-Award winning actors and actresses who have done more shit films than I have"---Madonna,in the mid-90s.


lol hey,at least she has a sense of humor about the whole thing
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Reply #35 posted 03/14/05 6:10am

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jayaredee said:

Madonna is not a good actress, but i love her films just cause of her being in them.



I'd be lying if I said I loved her movies,but I do enjoy watching them from time to time.Several of her films are fun to watch...'Body Of Evidence' is so deliciously campy and silly (like "Showgirls"),it's a cool Friday night film.'Dangerous Game' is provocative,and like I said before,'Who's That Girl' is a late-80s classic.Like Prince's 'UTCM',it's not nearly as bad as it's reputation suggests.

Oddly enough,the one Madonna movie that I can't tolerate is actually one of her most successful films: 'Desperately Seeking Susan'.Really shitty film.Not necessarily because of Madonna's performance....the whole thing sucks.
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Reply #36 posted 03/14/05 6:21am

fartman

Antonio Banderas in whatever category
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Reply #37 posted 03/14/05 6:22am

jayaredee

DavidEye said:

jayaredee said:

Madonna is not a good actress, but i love her films just cause of her being in them.



I'd be lying if I said I loved her movies,but I do enjoy watching them from time to time.Several of her films are fun to watch...'Body Of Evidence' is so deliciously campy and silly (like "Showgirls"),it's a cool Friday night film.'Dangerous Game' is provocative,and like I said before,'Who's That Girl' is a late-80s classic.Like Prince's 'UTCM',it's not nearly as bad as it's reputation suggests.

Oddly enough,the one Madonna movie that I can't tolerate is actually one of her most successful films: 'Desperately Seeking Susan'.Really shitty film.Not necessarily because of Madonna's performance....the whole thing sucks.


I love DSS, how dare you David. It's all about Into the Groove.
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Reply #38 posted 03/14/05 6:24am

VoicesCarry

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jayaredee said:

Madonna is not a good actress, but i love her films just cause of her being in them.



I'd be lying if I said I loved her movies,but I do enjoy watching them from time to time.Several of her films are fun to watch...'Body Of Evidence' is so deliciously campy and silly (like "Showgirls"),it's a cool Friday night film.'Dangerous Game' is provocative,and like I said before,'Who's That Girl' is a late-80s classic.Like Prince's 'UTCM',it's not nearly as bad as it's reputation suggests.

Oddly enough,the one Madonna movie that I can't tolerate is actually one of her most successful films: 'Desperately Seeking Susan'.Really shitty film.Not necessarily because of Madonna's performance....the whole thing sucks.


Wait a minute...you love "Who's That Girl" but hate "Dangerously Seeking Susan"? Shit, no wonder you think Madonna's not that bad of an actress.
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Reply #39 posted 03/14/05 6:25am

jayaredee

Good morning Voices
I snagged us some U2 tickets for the big day.
Get ready to see your favorite band
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Reply #40 posted 03/14/05 6:27am

DavidEye

VoicesCarry said:

DavidEye said:




I'd be lying if I said I loved her movies,but I do enjoy watching them from time to time.Several of her films are fun to watch...'Body Of Evidence' is so deliciously campy and silly (like "Showgirls"),it's a cool Friday night film.'Dangerous Game' is provocative,and like I said before,'Who's That Girl' is a late-80s classic.Like Prince's 'UTCM',it's not nearly as bad as it's reputation suggests.

Oddly enough,the one Madonna movie that I can't tolerate is actually one of her most successful films: 'Desperately Seeking Susan'.Really shitty film.Not necessarily because of Madonna's performance....the whole thing sucks.


Wait a minute...you love "Who's That Girl" but hate "Dangerously Seeking Susan"? Shit, no wonder you think Madonna's not that bad of an actress.



Oh come on...'Who's That Girl' is a good movie and you know it.It had some truly funny scenes.The only good thing about 'Desperately Seeking Susan'? It's theme song: "Into The Groove" hmph!
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Reply #41 posted 03/14/05 6:43am

DavidEye

VoicesCarry said:

DavidEye said:

Maddy has correctly pointed out that,because of who she is,people don't take her seriously as an actress.Her superstar persona tends to overwhelm any movie project that she is involved in.It suddenly becomes a "Madonna movie",even though there are other actors in the movie with her (lol).She has to (unfairly) carry the weight if the film should fail."I get blamed for everything",she once said.


What a piss-poor excuse. There are superstars who are able to transcend their images on a regular basis and actually act. She is not one of them.



Yeah,but this is Madonna we're talking about here.Her pop/music/superstar image is massive.That's some image to "transcend",dontcha think? I'm not defending her,but I do kinda agree with her point.The solution is to do smaller supporting roles.Let someone else be the "star" of the film.Nearly every supporting role she has played thus far has been well-received.
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Reply #42 posted 03/14/05 4:35pm

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VoicesCarry said:



Wait a minute...you love "Who's That Girl" but hate "Dangerously Seeking Susan"? Shit, no wonder you think Madonna's not that bad of an actress.


confused Dangerously Seeking Susan is a good film, Who's That Girl is shite
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