superspaceboy said: abierman said: I agree with all of them, but I would leave out Kruder & Dorfmeister. They are not performing artists, but DJ's/remixers.....and actually they are quite good at it. K&D do do their own music...mostly collaborations. They are 1/2 of Tosca too. I dj chill music and Both are overrated IMO I guess you've never been to a K&D DJ-set? It's not exactly what I'd call chill-music. What is their last original release as a duo? 'Black Baby' is dated from '96. The collaborations you're referring to are remixes. Tosca (Dorfmeister & Rupert Huber) and Peace Orchestra (Kruder) are each to their own good, they are lazy fucks when it comes to bringing out music as a duo.....maybe they don't want to, so: not performing artists in my book. 'K&D Sessions' is a classic and will always be a classic, there's no denying. But it is a remix-album. | |
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VoicesCarry said: sextonseven said: It's amazing what a cult can do when they work together. That's why Tori's albums drop so fast on the charts after the first sales week. Her entire fan base buys her records as soon as they are released. Her highest-selling album has sold 2.9 million copies. Are we still talking cult here? You have a point. I think Bjorks sold upwards of over 10 million albums herself. But I usually reserve the over-rated moniker for more popular like Mariah Carey, 50 Cent, some Madonna, who's popularity far outshines their popularity and talent. Tori and Bjork not only get slammed by almost everyone outside a confined cirlce of praise, but their popularity is confined as well. | |
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Guns N Roses: they sound just like any tired old 80's rock & roll group to me
Madonna: sure she has some great songs but she is not the living goddess some ppl think she is Bon Jovi: read Guns N Roses Garth Brooks: His music totally sucks ass!!! Hillary Duff: just another dumb blonde All Boy Bands such as Backstreet Boys, N'sync, 5ive, West Life etc.. Beyonce: too much hype around her, she aint all that Alanis Morisette: I dunno how she turned out to be so successful she has a teriffically horrible voice and her songs are so druggy and full of shit.it's a wonder how she hade it and sorry to say it but..... PRINCE: I love Prince and all but i think the way many ppl talk about him about how he was groundbreaking and legendary and such a good performer... yeah its true but i think he is terribbly over rated in most cases. "Americans consume the most fast food than any nation on Earth and the stupid motherfuckers wonder why they are so fat? " - Oprah Winfrey | |
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CynicKill said: VoicesCarry said: Her highest-selling album has sold 2.9 million copies. Are we still talking cult here? You have a point. I think Bjorks sold upwards of over 10 million albums herself. But I usually reserve the over-rated moniker for more popular like Mariah Carey, 50 Cent, some Madonna, who's popularity far outshines their popularity and talent. Tori and Bjork not only get slammed by almost everyone outside a confined cirlce of praise, but their popularity is confined as well. I count the critics, too. For example, they are responsible for the overratedness that is Alicia Keys. | |
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CynicKill said: VoicesCarry said: Her highest-selling album has sold 2.9 million copies. Are we still talking cult here? You have a point. I think Bjorks sold upwards of over 10 million albums herself. But I usually reserve the over-rated moniker for more popular like Mariah Carey, 50 Cent, some Madonna, who's popularity far outshines their popularity and talent. Tori and Bjork not only get slammed by almost everyone outside a confined cirlce of praise, but their popularity is confined as well. None of Bjorks are in the top 100 albums of all time. I don't think any have made it past 5.0. Nor is she in the industries top 100 artists. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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Xavier23 said: Garth Brooks: His music totally sucks ass!!! PRINCE: I love Prince and all but i think the way many ppl talk about him about how he was groundbreaking and legendary and such a good performer... yeah its true but i think he is terribbly over rated in most cases. Garth Brooks is the Number 4 selling artist of all time...preceeded by...The Beatles, Elvis and Led Zepplin. He even is in front of the Eagles...who have the top selling album of all time. Um...the only one who is talking up Prince now, is us. Maybe last year with everyone and thier Uncle prising the boy...was a bit much. But after a decade of spit...I reveled in a year of shine. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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superspaceboy said: CynicKill said: You have a point. I think Bjorks sold upwards of over 10 million albums herself. But I usually reserve the over-rated moniker for more popular like Mariah Carey, 50 Cent, some Madonna, who's popularity far outshines their popularity and talent. Tori and Bjork not only get slammed by almost everyone outside a confined cirlce of praise, but their popularity is confined as well. None of Bjorks are in the top 100 albums of all time. I don't think any have made it past 5.0. Nor is she in the industries top 100 artists. I saw this in "TIME" magazine's music issue and Bjork was featured and they said she's sold over 10 million albums worldwide. I was shocked to read this myself. | |
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CynicKill said: superspaceboy said: None of Bjorks are in the top 100 albums of all time. I don't think any have made it past 5.0. Nor is she in the industries top 100 artists. I saw this in "TIME" magazine's music issue and Bjork was featured and they said she's sold over 10 million albums worldwide. I was shocked to read this myself. That would be combined then. Seeing as she has 5 regualar albums, a GH, a GH boxed set and a remix album and all the live things...I am willing to bet it's pretty much exclusive to her fans. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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Chico319 said: Erikah Badu...her wanna be African goddess gimick, and her pot-head spirituality
Beyoncé...Nothing bad to say here. Just too much exposure for not really doing anything. Mary J. Blige...talking in 3rd person queen! some good songs but nothing we really haven't heard before. Just because you wail and sweat on a stage doesn't mean you are actually "sangin'" Self proclaimed 'queen of hip hop soul'?? Ok let's just make up titles.."I'm king of backwoods funky pop-rockin' soul blues!" Elvis...I like. But he was just at the right place at the right time. Sorry folks..he was basically a "dance" act himself! Eminem... Pure unfiltered shit! Kid Rock... I guess there's a market for everybody. Justin Timberlake...See Eminem. "Hey ma! Look at me..I'm down! gun fire.."Mommy!!!!" White Stripes...3 words, WHAT THE FUCK!?! Usher... See his brother Justin above. Another nasty piece of shit! 50 Cent...Yep..his name just about sums it up. That was fun! Thanks kanamit forgot an "R" EDIT. ¤ [Edited 3/7/05 12:46pm] Bravo!!!! On the Elvis comment..... | |
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Pagey said: I agree with a lot of your entries but i need to comment on one that keeps popping up thats pissing me off.
There is no way Elvis is overrated. I am not a big fan of Elvis, and yes, he didn't invent rock n roll...however he made it accessable to the masses. He's the one that clicked with so many ears that he made some of them pick up a guitar and want do what he was doing. Yeah, he didn't write his own music, and he was popular for his looks and dance moves as much as his music at the time. But his influence is monumental within the history of rock. Without Elvis there would be no Beatles...John Lennon said many times Elvis is the reason he picked up a guitar. There are many other artists from that era (including Eric Clapton, Brian Wilson, Keith Richards/Mick Jaggar, and Pete Townsend to name a few) who say Elvis was a big reason they got into rock n roll in the 1st place. I think Elvis is an easy target for these kinds of questions but you need to look at other things beyond whether he wrote his own music to write him off so easliy. Masses??? What masses??? Remember this was back in the 50's... And no white parent wanted their daughters screaming & yearning for no black performer.....Then when Elvis came along, it was acceptable..... He was at the right place, at the right time.... John Lennon made a comment, "Before Elvis, there's was no one".... So untrue. Rock & Roll was going on long before Elvis arrived on the scene.. Muddy Waters, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, to name a few..... Elvis's dance moves were even lifted from Jackie Wilson.... He rented out a movie theater so he can watch the James Brown's "TAMI Show" performance..... To me, Elvis was the "Vanilla Ice" of that era..... And I'm not saying this to be cruel....Get it??? Don't Be Cruel..... [Edited 3/7/05 17:07pm] | |
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jjhunsecker said: Most overrated :
Bjork Rush Radiohead Leonard Cohen Neil Young (even though I love a lot of his stuff ....) wow, I like all those people. | |
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funkpill said: And I'm not saying this to be cruel....Get it??? Don't Be Cruel..... Don't quit your day job. | |
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Chico319 said: funkpill said: And I'm not saying this to be cruel....Get it??? Don't Be Cruel..... Don't quit your day job. I work evenings..... | |
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Sugarcubes were dope, Bjork is dope.....who's overrated her? | |
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funkpill said: Chico319 said: Don't quit your day job. I work evenings..... I had a feeling you would! | |
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lilgish said: Sugarcubes were dope, Bjork is dope.....who's overrated her?
Co-sign. | |
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Bruce Springsteen...everybody's good ole boy...Neil Young should have this guy's carrer. | |
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Chico319 said: funkpill said: I work evenings..... I had a feeling you would! | |
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funkpill said: Pagey said: I agree with a lot of your entries but i need to comment on one that keeps popping up thats pissing me off.
There is no way Elvis is overrated. I am not a big fan of Elvis, and yes, he didn't invent rock n roll...however he made it accessable to the masses. He's the one that clicked with so many ears that he made some of them pick up a guitar and want do what he was doing. Yeah, he didn't write his own music, and he was popular for his looks and dance moves as much as his music at the time. But his influence is monumental within the history of rock. Without Elvis there would be no Beatles...John Lennon said many times Elvis is the reason he picked up a guitar. There are many other artists from that era (including Eric Clapton, Brian Wilson, Keith Richards/Mick Jaggar, and Pete Townsend to name a few) who say Elvis was a big reason they got into rock n roll in the 1st place. I think Elvis is an easy target for these kinds of questions but you need to look at other things beyond whether he wrote his own music to write him off so easliy. Masses??? What masses??? Remember this was back in the 50's... And no white parent wanted their daughters screaming & yearning for no black performer.....Then when Elvis came along, it was acceptable..... He was at the right place, at the right time.... John Lennon made a comment, "Before Elvis, there's was no one".... So untrue. Rock & Roll was going on long before Elvis arrived on the scene.. Muddy Waters, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, to name a few..... Elvis's dance moves were even lifted from Jackie Wilson.... He rented out a movie theater so he can watch the James Brown's "TAMI Show" performance..... To me, Elvis was the "Vanilla Ice" of that era..... And I'm not saying this to be cruel....Get it??? Don't Be Cruel..... [Edited 3/7/05 17:07pm] But he's not over rated. There are many reasons for allocades to him. Influences and what he did...being just 2. He's sort of an enigma...like Marilyn Monroe is. It's hard to put him in this thread at all. Now Michael Jackson....for someone with so little material...esp the stuff that made him "king"...now he's over rated. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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U2
Ray Charles \ CHER Earth Wind and fire Elvis and Michael Jackson are far from overrated. For a dead man he seems to gain more and more new fans everyday. | |
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superspaceboy said: funkpill said: Masses??? What masses??? Remember this was back in the 50's... And no white parent wanted their daughters screaming & yearning for no black performer.....Then when Elvis came along, it was acceptable..... He was at the right place, at the right time.... John Lennon made a comment, "Before Elvis, there's was no one".... So untrue. Rock & Roll was going on long before Elvis arrived on the scene.. Muddy Waters, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, to name a few..... Elvis's dance moves were even lifted from Jackie Wilson.... He rented out a movie theater so he can watch the James Brown's "TAMI Show" performance..... To me, Elvis was the "Vanilla Ice" of that era..... And I'm not saying this to be cruel....Get it??? Don't Be Cruel..... [Edited 3/7/05 17:07pm] But he's not over rated. There are many reasons for allocades to him. Influences and what he did...being just 2. He's sort of an enigma...like Marilyn Monroe is. It's hard to put him in this thread at all. Now Michael Jackson....for someone with so little material...esp the stuff that made him "king"...now he's over rated. Its very easy to put him in this thread..... Like I said, 50's..... Right place, right time..... Rock & Roll would've still exist, even if there's was no Elvis..... He's just overhyped, dead as well as alive..... I remember seeing his comeback special.... I'm still trying to figure out the big deal..... [Edited 3/7/05 17:58pm] | |
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There are a lot of them. The ones that come to mind are:
Madonna Britney Spears J-Lo Eminem Usher Justin Timberlake 50 Cent Lenny Kravitz P Diddy R. Kelly I hate to say it but U2 is kinda overrated too. That's all for now. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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J. Lo, Brittany Spears, Ashanti,50 cent | |
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jjhunsecker said: almost all Rap/Hip-Hop music. When you read "Vibe" or the "Village Voice", they write about a lot of these performers as if they were real artists who were creating something interesting . If you are talking about the more creative end of the field (Outkast, The roots, early PE) then I can agree. But to take Fitty or the Game seriously, as you would take Bob Dylan or Bob marley or Marvin Gaye, is just a joke Some of these pubs are slavishly loyal to hip-hop artists because it is the hip-hop artists, clothiers, endorsed brands, etc. that sell ad space for them. Even some "mainstream" publications sell these guys in transparent puff pieces (yes, Newsweek's Alison Samuels, that means YOU). Funny thing is, many of them decry the current state of hip-hop but love the best-selling artists who are obviously dictating the trends (hip-hop is full of mediocre MCs screaming out "gangsta" and sending bad messages to the seeds, but Fitty is great). But it will pass and the underground MCs will survive. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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funkpill said: superspaceboy said: But he's not over rated. There are many reasons for allocades to him. Influences and what he did...being just 2. He's sort of an enigma...like Marilyn Monroe is. It's hard to put him in this thread at all. Now Michael Jackson....for someone with so little material...esp the stuff that made him "king"...now he's over rated. Its very easy to put him in this thread..... Like I said, 50's..... Right place, right time..... Rock & Roll would've still exist, even if there's was no Elvis..... He's just overhyped, dead as well as alive..... I remember seeing his comeback special.... I'm still trying to figure out the big deal..... [Edited 3/7/05 17:58pm] But you just described MANY artists...dead and alive (Janis and Jimi...heck even Nirvana) You know I think that my generation and ones after mine don't get elvis. I'm 34. I didn't get Elvis for a long time. Just didn't get him. I grew older and have been exposed to his works and can say that for his time and everything he did a LOT. Not the best music...but much of it was really good. Same with James Brown. He's sort of a "first" too. A lot of his music is quite similar in sound...and if he had passed perhaps over a decade ago...or before his troubles, he would be in the same view as Elvis. Trust me Elvis is not overrated...over hyped when ever they find a new tune or something like that...but over rated Like I said it's hard to put artists like Elvis, Beatles or JB on a thread like this. There is no over rated...you just don't like them. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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VoicesCarry said: sextonseven said: It's amazing what a cult can do when they work together. That's why Tori's albums drop so fast on the charts after the first sales week. Her entire fan base buys her records as soon as they are released. Her highest-selling album has sold 2.9 million copies. Are we still talking cult here? Yes. That 2.9 million was a long time ago. Most of those fair-weather fans have moved on to something else. Nowadays her albums are only certified gold if anything at all. | |
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Ok, BJORK?!?!
Whatever. I'm gonna have to say Tori Amos. Her voice is shrill and most of her songs are not very melodic. Edit: and I see I'm not the only one with Tori issues. [Edited 3/7/05 19:42pm] | |
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tackam said: I'm gonna have to say Tori Amos. Her voice is shrill and most of her songs are not very melodic. Not very melodic? Which songs have you heard? | |
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sextonseven said: VoicesCarry said: Her highest-selling album has sold 2.9 million copies. Are we still talking cult here? Yes. That 2.9 million was a long time ago. Most of those fair-weather fans have moved on to something else. Nowadays her albums are only certified gold if anything at all. Then she's a has-been, not a cult item. A cult item is someone who is only ever popular with a small group of individuals. Madonna's "American Life" only went gold - by that extension is she also a cult item? [Edited 3/7/05 19:49pm] | |
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