DavidEye said: variety1317 said: This album is one of my favorites too. The RIT definately made me appreciate it more. I don't see how people can love albums like Like A Virgin but call AL crap.
I'm always amazed when I discuss Madonna with somebody,and they say "Well,I like her old stuff".Wtf? It's as if they prefer her mindless 80s pop hits over the more serious,creative stuff that she does now.The same people who say 'American Life' is crap are the same folks who insist that 'Like A Virgin' is a masterpiece they're also (many times) the same people who rag on britney and the other pop tarts. | |
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SassyBritches said: lilgish said: I think P fans are realistic when it comes to his movies and everyone recognizes that For You is rather weak compared to his competitors at the time. The people who say they like Graffiti Bridge are just fooling around, right? um, in a word: no. look, there are prince fans who actually like jughead. let's not even get into those who love newpowersoul. some fans even called rave un2 the joy fantastic a return to form and a comeback. uh uh. some prince fans are just as blind as some madonna fans. no its called having different tastes, i love "strollin", "slow love" and the WHOLE of "musicology" and other people think its complete garbage, whilst people think lovesexy is great when i think its average. Its the same with any artist i love madonna's 80's stuff but hate "AL" and "ray of light". ITS JUST PEOPLE'S PREFERENCES!!!!! [Edited 3/7/05 11:53am] | |
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mancabdriver said: SassyBritches said: um, in a word: no. look, there are prince fans who actually like jughead. let's not even get into those who love newpowersoul. some fans even called rave un2 the joy fantastic a return to form and a comeback. uh uh. some prince fans are just as blind as some madonna fans. no its called having different tastes, i love "strollin", "slow love" and the WHOLE of "musicology" and other people think its complete garbage, whilst people think lovesexy is great when i think its average. Its the same with any artist i love madonna's 80's stuff but hate "AL" and "ray of light". ITS JUST PEOPLE'S PREFERENCES!!!!! [Edited 3/7/05 11:53am] yes, you and i seem to understand this. my comments were directed in a completely different context. | |
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I REALLY liked AL when it was released, but it hasn't held-up well for me.
With the exception of Nothing Fails and Nobody Knows Me, I tired of the CD very quickly... | |
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"Ray of Light" was a nice artistic statement, but I think we can all agree she's in an electronica funk now. | |
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DavidEye said: variety1317 said: This album is one of my favorites too. The RIT definately made me appreciate it more. I don't see how people can love albums like Like A Virgin but call AL crap.
I'm always amazed when I discuss Madonna with somebody,and they say "Well,I like her old stuff".Wtf? It's as if they prefer her mindless 80s pop hits over the more serious,creative stuff that she does now.The same people who say 'American Life' is crap are the same folks who insist that 'Like A Virgin' is a masterpiece Nice try, but no. I don't like American Life, but I don't like Like a Virgin either. It is possible to dislike both pieces of doo doo. | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: DavidEye said: I'm always amazed when I discuss Madonna with somebody,and they say "Well,I like her old stuff".Wtf? It's as if they prefer her mindless 80s pop hits over the more serious,creative stuff that she does now.The same people who say 'American Life' is crap are the same folks who insist that 'Like A Virgin' is a masterpiece Nice try, but no. I don't like American Life, but I don't like Like a Virgin either. It is possible to dislike both pieces of doo doo. in davideye's defense, i think you are the exception. | |
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SassyBritches said: RipHer2Shreds said: Nice try, but no. I don't like American Life, but I don't like Like a Virgin either. It is possible to dislike both pieces of doo doo. in davideye's defense, i think you are the exception. That's a strange anomaly. | |
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sosgemini said: madartista said: Great Album, Great tour. It's in my Top 3 Madonna discs, with Ray of Light and Like a Prayer.
we will never have babies... You won't be making babies with me either hun. That was a great album and a great show | |
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jayaredee said: sosgemini said: we will never have babies... You won't be making babies with me either hun. That was a great album and a great show we aint having babies cause you admire the wrong god damn teletube... Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: jayaredee said: You won't be making babies with me either hun. That was a great album and a great show we aint having babies cause you admire the wrong god damn teletube... Oh wait, which color was the gay one??? I thought it was red | |
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jayaredee said: sosgemini said: we aint having babies cause you admire the wrong god damn teletube... Oh wait, which color was the gay one??? I thought it was red Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: jayaredee said: Oh wait, which color was the gay one??? I thought it was red Oh fuck I always though that one was female.... [Edited 3/10/05 6:37am] | |
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jayaredee said: sosgemini said: Oh fuck I always though that one was female.... [Edited 3/10/05 6:37am] hello!! triangle on head!! purse!!! deep voice!!! Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: jayaredee said: Oh fuck I always though that one was female.... [Edited 3/10/05 6:37am] hello!! triangle on head!! purse!!! deep voice!!! call me stupid, but what does the triangle have to do with gay? | |
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jayaredee said: sosgemini said: hello!! triangle on head!! purse!!! deep voice!!! call me stupid, but what does the triangle have to do with gay? Space for sale... | |
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jayaredee said: sosgemini said: hello!! triangle on head!! purse!!! deep voice!!! call me stupid, but what does the triangle have to do with gay? the NAZI's used a pink triangle to idnetify gay men to put in concertation camps You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: jayaredee said: call me stupid, but what does the triangle have to do with gay? the NAZI's used a pink triangle to idnetify gay men to put in concertation camps lesbians first claimed the symbol as their own while gay men used the rainbow....gay men then starting claiming the pink triangle after everyone and their mother sported the rainbow flag/sticker... you know us boys..always gotta be "cutting edge"..i hear this is going to be the new symbol soon: Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: ehuffnsd said: the NAZI's used a pink triangle to idnetify gay men to put in concertation camps lesbians first claimed the symbol as their own while gay men used the rainbow....gay men then starting claiming the pink triangle after everyone and their mother sported the rainbow flag/sticker... you know us boys..always gotta be "cutting edge"..i hear this is going to be the new symbol soon: It's perfect!!! | |
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jayaredee said: sosgemini said: Oh fuck I always though that one was female.... [Edited 3/10/05 6:37am] I thought that too until Falwell outed him. As big of an ass as Falwell is...didn't he kindof have a point...triangle, purple....and a handbag! A handbag, sister! | |
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sosgemini said: ehuffnsd said: the NAZI's used a pink triangle to idnetify gay men to put in concertation camps lesbians first claimed the symbol as their own while gay men used the rainbow....gay men then starting claiming the pink triangle after everyone and their mother sported the rainbow flag/sticker... you know us boys..always gotta be "cutting edge"..i hear this is going to be the new symbol soon: actully my dear. the pink triangle was used by gay men before the rainbow. the lesbians are starting to sport the black triangle which the NAZI's way of identifying lesbians. i have a friend in PS who claims that the Pink Triangle was first used by gay men in NY in the 60's. It's starting to become popular again with the further fragmentation of the gay community. with each community having it's own flag bears, leather, bi, trans. so why not have something seperate for gays and lesibans. [Edited 3/10/05 11:39am] You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: sosgemini said: lesbians first claimed the symbol as their own while gay men used the rainbow....gay men then starting claiming the pink triangle after everyone and their mother sported the rainbow flag/sticker... you know us boys..always gotta be "cutting edge"..i hear this is going to be the new symbol soon: actully my dear. the pink triangle was used by gay men before the rainbow. the lesbians are starting to sport the black triangle which the NAZI's way of identifying lesbians. i have a friend in PS who claims that the Pink Triangle was first used by gay men in NY in the 60's. It's starting to become popular again with the further fragmentation of the gay community. with each community having it's own flag bears, leather, bi, trans. so why not have something seperate for gays and lesibans. [Edited 3/10/05 11:39am] dont know. but here in the bay area the pink triangle was used for lesbian night during pride...lesbians had it on their cars..it was a lesbian thing...im talking 90's here....all the guys had the rainbow flags on their cars....then in the late 90's (ive often wondered if it had to do with a couple high profile gay bashing cases here in the bay area) guys stopped putting the flag stickers on their cars and then more and more started sporting the triangle.. just my lil observation of my own enviroment.... Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: ehuffnsd said: actully my dear. the pink triangle was used by gay men before the rainbow. the lesbians are starting to sport the black triangle which the NAZI's way of identifying lesbians. i have a friend in PS who claims that the Pink Triangle was first used by gay men in NY in the 60's. It's starting to become popular again with the further fragmentation of the gay community. with each community having it's own flag bears, leather, bi, trans. so why not have something seperate for gays and lesibans. [Edited 3/10/05 11:39am] dont know. but here in the bay area the pink triangle was used for lesbian night during pride...lesbians had it on their cars..it was a lesbian thing...im talking 90's here....all the guys had the rainbow flags on their cars....then in the late 90's (ive often wondered if it had to do with a couple high profile gay bashing cases here in the bay area) guys stopped putting the flag stickers on their cars and then more and more started sporting the triangle.. just my lil observation of my own enviroment.... cool i'm always interested in learning new things... most of the guys here do the HRC sticker You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: sosgemini said: dont know. but here in the bay area the pink triangle was used for lesbian night during pride...lesbians had it on their cars..it was a lesbian thing...im talking 90's here....all the guys had the rainbow flags on their cars....then in the late 90's (ive often wondered if it had to do with a couple high profile gay bashing cases here in the bay area) guys stopped putting the flag stickers on their cars and then more and more started sporting the triangle.. just my lil observation of my own enviroment.... cool i'm always interested in learning new things... most of the guys here do the HRC sticker Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: ehuffnsd said: cool i'm always interested in learning new things... most of the guys here do the HRC sticker Human Rights Campaign the blue square with the gold equal sign You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: sosgemini said: Human Rights Campaign the blue square with the gold equal sign Space for sale... | |
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ehuffnsd said: I don't watch TV Won't read a magazine) Not to nitpick, but this lyric says everything about what's annoying about her these days. Don't watch TV? How's anyone gonna hear what she has to say. Not on the radio, that's for sure... [Edited 3/10/05 21:54pm] | |
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Madonna has been cast to voice the part of Princess Selenia in the upcoming animated motion picture Arthur. The $80 million film is based on Luc Besson's series of children's. Besson wrote the screenplay and will direct the film, which is expected to hit theaters in 2006. | |
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MendesCity said: ehuffnsd said: I don't watch TV Won't read a magazine) Not to nitpick, but this lyric says everything about what's annoying about her these days. Don't watch TV? How's anyone gonna hear what she has to say. Not on the radio, that's for sure... [Edited 3/10/05 21:54pm] She's talking about herself. She doesn't watch tv or read magazines to avoid lies (as stated in the lyrics above that) that people say about her. She isn't talking about everybody rebelling against television. Maybe if you actually listen to the song, you may get the message... just a thought | |
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sosgemini said: horrible album...horrible tour...
Indeed. This album will never be seen as something great... it is just too bland, too easy, too forgetable. Her 'coffee-rap' will be not seen as sumthing funny, but as sumthing ridiculous, her rendition of Imagine on the tour as overreaching... just a few political references does not make her John Lennon, for Chris's sake! | |
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