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Reply #30 posted 03/06/05 8:47am

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I admire Led Zeppelin esp for the fact that they never released a single
but my vote goes for Pink Floyd.The Final Cut is an underated gem.
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Reply #31 posted 03/06/05 12:45pm

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2 of the most amazing groups ever! If I had to chose one? wow??

Zeppelin cool
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Reply #32 posted 03/06/05 7:06pm

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This has always been a tough one for me. I LOVE both bands and hate choosing!

BUT, since your asking to choose one...um...well, Floyd has some of the most brilliant albums of all time. I mean...Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, and The Wall have been in yearly rotation since I was 14. Animals, UmmaGumma, and the Barrett years are good but I don't play them very often...never did.

However, Zepplin has more SONGS and from Zep I to Physical...each album is flawless (with the exception of Hats Off to Roy Harper on III) ...I even think Presence and In Through are great just not quite as good as the 1st 5.

So um...song for song I think Zep wins. Shocker, huh Minne??
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Reply #33 posted 03/06/05 10:14pm

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Zeppelin kicks their asses to hell. Floyd were boring and had no stage presence and their music was overblown crap.
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Reply #34 posted 03/07/05 3:54am

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Pagey said:

This has always been a tough one for me. I LOVE both bands and hate choosing!

BUT, since your asking to choose one...um...well, Floyd has some of the most brilliant albums of all time. I mean...Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, and The Wall have been in yearly rotation since I was 14. Animals, UmmaGumma, and the Barrett years are good but I don't play them very often...never did.

However, Zepplin has more SONGS and from Zep I to Physical...each album is flawless (with the exception of Hats Off to Roy Harper on III) ...I even think Presence and In Through are great just not quite as good as the 1st 5.

So um...song for song I think Zep wins. Shocker, huh Minne??

Yes, I am shocked by your answer. lol razz

LMAO though because NO ONE likes Hats Off to Roy Harper! falloff Not even harcore fans. It's like Prince fans and their hatred of "Jughead". lol
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Reply #35 posted 03/07/05 4:04am

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Um...neither?


both have a handful of great songs and a whole load of overrated bloated filler.


I think I'd enjoy Zep a lot better if it didn't have that old sound to it. I hate that 70's production, even after remastering.
I guess I need to get myself to a Led Zep tribute and hear the songs as they should sound, maybe that'd help?


Any British people seen Fred Zepellin live? They are a Birmingham based band with a HUGE following. Are they any good?
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Reply #36 posted 03/07/05 4:17am

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minneapolisgenius said:

LMAO though because NO ONE likes Hats Off to Roy Harper!


I do. smile
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Reply #37 posted 03/07/05 8:23am

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Cloudbuster said:

minneapolisgenius said:

LMAO though because NO ONE likes Hats Off to Roy Harper!


I do. smile


Me too. biggrin
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Reply #38 posted 03/07/05 9:46am

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RocknRollDave said:

Um...neither?


both have a handful of great songs and a whole load of overrated bloated filler.


I think I'd enjoy Zep a lot better if it didn't have that old sound to it. I hate that 70's production, even after remastering.
I guess I need to get myself to a Led Zep tribute and hear the songs as they should sound, maybe that'd help?


Any British people seen Fred Zepellin live? They are a Birmingham based band with a HUGE following. Are they any good?

You don't like Zeppelin, but you're interested in seeing a tribute band? whofarted Maybe you should hear some of their live performances, and hear Zeppelin "as they should sound". Start with the "How The West Was Won" live cds, and then let me know what you think.

The production on Zeppelin's albums is great. Page was a wiz in the studio, and was known for being meticulous with his orchestration of what he called his "guitar army". Just listen to the beautiful harmonies of his overdubs at the end of "In The Light" for example. I hear something new in it every time I listen to it, and I must have heard that song a thousand times. Obviously, live it was near impossible to re-create the richness of that sound, with there being only one guitarist, but somehow live they kick ass even more. Their live shows are legendary, usually lasting about 3 and a half hours of endless energy among the four of them. They really had a sort of telepathic connection between them onstage, and could do amazing things when they were in good form.

What do you mean by "70s production"? I just don't hear it. confuse I don't agree with the overrated, bloated filler comment either. It's a matter of opinion of course, but I think it's fair to say that both Pink Floyd and Zeppelin have more than a "handful" of good songs. I guess when you're a big fan of a band though, you don't don't consider their songs "filler". Although, speaking of loads of filler, another of my favorite artists comes to mind.... *coughPrincecough*

Anyway, I've never heard Fred Zeppelin, so I don't know if they're good or not.

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Reply #39 posted 03/07/05 9:56am

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muirdo said:

I admire Led Zeppelin esp for the fact that they never released a single
but my vote goes for Pink Floyd.The Final Cut is an underated gem.


Hell yeah, I love The Final Cut too. The title song alone is just so powerful.
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Reply #40 posted 03/07/05 10:51am

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I'm a HUGE fan of both bands and they have both influenced me as a musician and songwriter. I have dug both bands every since I was 9 years old. David Gilmour AND Jimmy Page are also huge influences on me as a guitarist. That said, I can't compare them as bands because they both have elements that neither one share.
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Reply #41 posted 03/07/05 10:53am

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blackguitaristz said:

I'm a HUGE fan of both bands and they have both influenced me as a musician and songwriter. I have dug both bands every since I was 9 years old. David Gilmour AND Jimmy Page are also huge influences on me as a guitarist. That said, I can't compare them as bands because they both have elements that neither one share.

Yeah, I've always wondered why there's a hug fan crossover bewteen the two, yet they are so different. confuse
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Reply #42 posted 03/07/05 11:38am

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minneapolisgenius said:

blackguitaristz said:

I'm a HUGE fan of both bands and they have both influenced me as a musician and songwriter. I have dug both bands every since I was 9 years old. David Gilmour AND Jimmy Page are also huge influences on me as a guitarist. That said, I can't compare them as bands because they both have elements that neither one share.

Yeah, I've always wondered why there's a hug fan crossover bewteen the two, yet they are so different. confuse

Probably because they were both blues based which in their cases, equates funkiness. Their sounds was very "visual". And they were both experimental. Although their approaches were very different, their "execution" was the same. They were both extremely confident in what they were doing and when u have all of those elements that I mentioned, people are going to dig u.
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Reply #43 posted 03/07/05 2:02pm

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I personally love both, but I started off a Pink Floyd fan, so I gotta go with them. Apples and oranges though.

Floyd are much more esoteric and arty. Zepplin just plain rock.

Gilmour is an incredibly under-rated guitarist, and we all KNOW Page is a master.

Drums? C'mon, NOBODY is better than Bonham.

Vocals? Gilmour has the most pleasant voice. Waters is only good in the context of their music. Plant just wails (this is a good thing)!

Bass? Hmmm. Don't think I have a preference.

Y'know what? Both bands kick all kinds of ass, and deserve the respect they get!!!
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Reply #44 posted 03/07/05 2:30pm

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Drums? C'mon, NOBODY is better than Bonham



Nothing else need to be said. Lock this sucka!
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Reply #45 posted 03/07/05 2:32pm

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Slave2daGroove said:

JediMaster said:

Drums? C'mon, NOBODY is better than Bonham



Nothing else need to be said. Lock this sucka!

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Reply #46 posted 03/07/05 2:51pm

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Bonham..... sigh

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Reply #47 posted 03/07/05 3:36pm

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minneapolisgenius said:

Slave2daGroove said:




Nothing else need to be said. Lock this sucka!

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No wait! eek They Can't lock it! Because then I won't be able to post more pics. falloff
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Reply #48 posted 03/07/05 3:37pm

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JediMaster said:

I personally love both, but I started off a Pink Floyd fan, so I gotta go with them. Apples and oranges though.

Floyd are much more esoteric and arty. Zepplin just plain rock.

Gilmour is an incredibly under-rated guitarist, and we all KNOW Page is a master.

Drums? C'mon, NOBODY is better than Bonham.

Vocals? Gilmour has the most pleasant voice. Waters is only good in the context of their music. Plant just wails (this is a good thing)!

Bass? Hmmm. Don't think I have a preference.

Y'know what? Both bands kick all kinds of ass, and deserve the respect they get!!!

Nicely said. I can though why a lot of people would side with Zepp. They had the charisma and the swagger that Floyd didn't have. Zepp in the 70's, were regarded as "rock gods". I mean, in the 70's, your bedroom wasn't complete if u didn't have the poster of Page with the dragon pants and the double neck guitar. Zeppelin took groupies to a higher level and all the mystery and shit surrounding the band. That's more of a "rock star" vibe than anything. The 8 mansions, 10 Rolls Royce's, 759 guitars, your own jet, shag everywhere. The shark. U know? That was the standard pretty much set by Zepp.
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Reply #49 posted 03/08/05 5:41am

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blackguitaristz said:

JediMaster said:

I personally love both, but I started off a Pink Floyd fan, so I gotta go with them. Apples and oranges though.

Floyd are much more esoteric and arty. Zepplin just plain rock.

Gilmour is an incredibly under-rated guitarist, and we all KNOW Page is a master.

Drums? C'mon, NOBODY is better than Bonham.

Vocals? Gilmour has the most pleasant voice. Waters is only good in the context of their music. Plant just wails (this is a good thing)!

Bass? Hmmm. Don't think I have a preference.

Y'know what? Both bands kick all kinds of ass, and deserve the respect they get!!!

Nicely said. I can though why a lot of people would side with Zepp. They had the charisma and the swagger that Floyd didn't have. Zepp in the 70's, were regarded as "rock gods". I mean, in the 70's, your bedroom wasn't complete if u didn't have the poster of Page with the dragon pants and the double neck guitar. Zeppelin took groupies to a higher level and all the mystery and shit surrounding the band. That's more of a "rock star" vibe than anything. The 8 mansions, 10 Rolls Royce's, 759 guitars, your own jet, shag everywhere. The shark. U know? That was the standard pretty much set by Zepp.


True. I really can't give a major overall preference, since both were trying to accomplish VERY different things.

Let me put it this way: Floyd was like a mind-trip, while Zep is a full-body high! Both are cool. Just depends on what you're in the mood for.
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Reply #50 posted 03/08/05 9:05am

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blackguitaristz said:

JediMaster said:

I personally love both, but I started off a Pink Floyd fan, so I gotta go with them. Apples and oranges though.

Floyd are much more esoteric and arty. Zepplin just plain rock.

Gilmour is an incredibly under-rated guitarist, and we all KNOW Page is a master.

Drums? C'mon, NOBODY is better than Bonham.

Vocals? Gilmour has the most pleasant voice. Waters is only good in the context of their music. Plant just wails (this is a good thing)!

Bass? Hmmm. Don't think I have a preference.

Y'know what? Both bands kick all kinds of ass, and deserve the respect they get!!!

Nicely said. I can though why a lot of people would side with Zepp. They had the charisma and the swagger that Floyd didn't have. Zepp in the 70's, were regarded as "rock gods". I mean, in the 70's, your bedroom wasn't complete if u didn't have the poster of Page with the dragon pants and the double neck guitar. Zeppelin took groupies to a higher level and all the mystery and shit surrounding the band. That's more of a "rock star" vibe than anything. The 8 mansions, 10 Rolls Royce's, 759 guitars, your own jet, shag everywhere. The shark. U know? That was the standard pretty much set by Zepp.


Oh yeah. nod I was there you know. giggle
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Pink Floyd, but it's really just a personal preference. Robert Plant's screaming can give me a splitting headache after a while, and make my nerves a wreck. I usually prefer stuff thats more contemplative than just something to jam along to. I'm kinda burned out on both bands really, because they've been so celebrated and overplayed for decades now. If I'm in a Pink Floyd mood, I usually jump to stuff like Atom Heart Mother...
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Reply #52 posted 03/08/05 12:54pm

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Tom said:

Pink Floyd, but it's really just a personal preference. Robert Plant's screaming can give me a splitting headache after a while, and make my nerves a wreck. I usually prefer stuff thats more contemplative than just something to jam along to. I'm kinda burned out on both bands really, because they've been so celebrated and overplayed for decades now. If I'm in a Pink Floyd mood, I usually jump to stuff like Atom Heart Mother...


I just recently re-discovered Atom Heart Mother. I hated that album when I was younger, but hearing it as an adult I found a new appreciation for it. Its really under-rated. I must say the same of Obscurred By Clouds
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Reply #53 posted 03/08/05 1:01pm

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minneapolisgenius said:

blackguitaristz said:


Nicely said. I can though why a lot of people would side with Zepp. They had the charisma and the swagger that Floyd didn't have. Zepp in the 70's, were regarded as "rock gods". I mean, in the 70's, your bedroom wasn't complete if u didn't have the poster of Page with the dragon pants and the double neck guitar. Zeppelin took groupies to a higher level and all the mystery and shit surrounding the band. That's more of a "rock star" vibe than anything. The 8 mansions, 10 Rolls Royce's, 759 guitars, your own jet, shag everywhere. The shark. U know? That was the standard pretty much set by Zepp.


Oh yeah. nod I was there you know. giggle

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Reply #54 posted 03/08/05 1:02pm

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I'm also gonna go with Floyd. I like Zeppelin a lot, and like quite a bit of their catalog, but I'd have to agree with the fact that Plant needed to learn a bit of restraint. Plus, Gilmore is my favorite guitarist ever. As cliched as it sounds, Comfortably Numb has my favorite guitar solo in it, and his work on Wish You Were Here is goosebump worthy.

Pink Floyd definitely didn't have the stage presence that Zeppelin had, however. So that's one thing they have over PF. I am going to subtract another point from Zep because Stairway, Black Dog, and Rock and Roll have been so overplayed that I never need to take out ZOSO again (except maybe to hear Going to California).
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blackguitaristz said:

minneapolisgenius said:



Oh yeah. nod I was there you know. giggle

Nah, in Seattle? Damn, Lori. I knew u were at The Rainbow on Sunset, but Washington too?

Well, you know I was all over the West coast. lol
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Axchi696 said:

I'm also gonna go with Floyd. I like Zeppelin a lot, and like quite a bit of their catalog, but I'd have to agree with the fact that Plant needed to learn a bit of restraint. Plus, Gilmore is my favorite guitarist ever. As cliched as it sounds, Comfortably Numb has my favorite guitar solo in it, and his work on Wish You Were Here is goosebump worthy.

Pink Floyd definitely didn't have the stage presence that Zeppelin had, however. So that's one thing they have over PF. I am going to subtract another point from Zep because Stairway, Black Dog, and Rock and Roll have been so overplayed that I never need to take out ZOSO again (except maybe to hear Going to California).

lol You've got a point there. biggrin I never really listen to the studio versions of those songs anymore. Only live versions now because, yeah it would be like (as a Prince fan) putting on "Kiss" or "Little Red Corvette" or something. lol
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Reply #57 posted 03/09/05 5:28am

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I don't care how many times I hear those tracks, they're still great. smile
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Cloudbuster said:

I don't care how many times I hear those tracks, they're still great. smile

Of course they're still great, biggrin I just don't play them at home too often anymore. But if I hear them on the radio, of course I have to blast them as loud as it will go. To eleven. nod

(then I DID just discover that there is such a thing as "classic rock" radio stations like last summer though. falloff The whole concept of hearing Zeppelin OR Floyd on the radio is totally new to me. boxed )
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minneapolisgenius said:

(then I DID just discover that there is such a thing as "classic rock" radio stations like last summer though. falloff The whole concept of hearing Zeppelin OR Floyd on the radio is totally new to me. boxed )


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