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Reply #120 posted 03/29/05 9:17pm

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Yea... dude is Black... live w/ it neutral.
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Reply #121 posted 03/30/05 8:05am

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Mariah's father was half black Venezulean and half African American, His real last name is NUNEZ not CArey, he changed when he moved to America




I never bought that name change story...it's not common latino's regardless of their race changing their surnames when coming to the USA...being Latino our last names are our pride, and I heard her father was a Black Venezolano NOT mixed with African-American and Afro-Venezolano.


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It's funny that way. Within my own family, my uncle changed his name from "Lados" to "Sides" but everyone else kept their last name. Why did he change it? To this day, we have no clue, but he was the darkest out of all of the family, spoke fluent Spanish and English, and felt that he could make his way in the US with an American-sounding name.

Think of Emilio Estevez and Charlie Sheen. Martin Sheen, the father, was born Martin Estevez, if I am not mistaken. For their professional names, one son went back to the family name, the other chose his dad's professional name.

Nowadays, I think you're right. No one seems to change their name anymore, but back thirty, forty, or fifty years ago, who knows? Rita Hayworth, anyone?
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Reply #122 posted 03/30/05 9:16am

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I think some of ya'll are confusing being "mixed" with having some indian in ya family.



Um, that is mixed.

Besides, go back far enough, and not one person is strictly one ethnicity anyway. Even if all you're talking about is French/English heritage, that's still having a mixed ancestry. And with both nationalities, go back far enough and you've got German, Viking, and Italian(Roman) in there too. And if you believe in evolution; go back even farther and you've got black ancestry as well.

Everyone's mixed. Being 100% anything is impossible.




ya missed the whole point confused But I still gotta love ya.



I meant...having your parents being of two different races rather than your great great great grandmother being black or white or whatever.



I'mma beat you meow chair lol
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Reply #123 posted 03/31/05 9:37pm

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Rhondab said:

meow85 said:



Um, that is mixed.

Besides, go back far enough, and not one person is strictly one ethnicity anyway. Even if all you're talking about is French/English heritage, that's still having a mixed ancestry. And with both nationalities, go back far enough and you've got German, Viking, and Italian(Roman) in there too. And if you believe in evolution; go back even farther and you've got black ancestry as well.

Everyone's mixed. Being 100% anything is impossible.




ya missed the whole point confused But I still gotta love ya.



I meant...having your parents being of two different races rather than your great great great grandmother being black or white or whatever.



I'mma beat you meow chair lol


lol Yeah, I guess I did miss the point.

My mom is white, and my dad was Cree Metis. My sister has native features with white colouring, and I just look white. Genetics are funny like that. Who knows? Maybe my future kids'll have brown skin and black hair like my dad did....

Ya still can't be 100% anything though. smile
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Reply #124 posted 04/02/05 10:14am

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Dont matter how much percentage of "black" u have in you.. U BLACK. I could slap Tiger upside his natural head.
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Reply #125 posted 04/05/05 9:10am

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Dont matter how much percentage of "black" u have in you.. U BLACK. I could slap Tiger upside his natural head.

And countless Black models...
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Reply #126 posted 04/05/05 12:47pm

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Damn! MAriah has had MORE work done than RuPaul! whofarted
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Reply #127 posted 04/05/05 1:16pm

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I was a black woman in a previous life.


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Reply #128 posted 04/05/05 1:41pm

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So what's fucked up here? That black girls are straightening and bleaching their hair (or wearing weaves) or that white girls are frying their skin?

Mariah's hair's gonna fall out, and Paris will get skin cancer. shrug

no she won't Paris uses spray tan...lol
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Reply #129 posted 04/06/05 6:28pm

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Reply #130 posted 04/07/05 1:12pm

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Mariah's problem is that she picks which race she wants to be as she drops every single album. She's not misunderstood, she's just full of shit.
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Reply #131 posted 04/12/05 1:45pm

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prince is black!!
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Reply #132 posted 04/12/05 7:16pm

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Dont matter how much percentage of "black" u have in you.. U BLACK. I could slap Tiger upside his natural head.




That's ridiculous. The term black implies African. He's more Asian than African.

To be American on many accounts today and certainly in the future is to be multi-racial. One day, if we live long enough, that'll be the case world-wide. It starts here though because it's where all of the different "races" come together. All of our perceived differences are superficial anyway and whether it's us, our kids, or our kids' kids that line of separation will be blurred until it's completely gone. Resisting that and holding on to the past won't stop it and will only cause you grief.
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Reply #133 posted 04/12/05 10:05pm

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whodknee said:

paisleypark4 said:

Dont matter how much percentage of "black" u have in you.. U BLACK. I could slap Tiger upside his natural head.




That's ridiculous. The term black implies African. He's more Asian than African.

To be American on many accounts today and certainly in the future is to be multi-racial. One day, if we live long enough, that'll be the case world-wide. It starts here though because it's where all of the different "races" come together. All of our perceived differences are superficial anyway and whether it's us, our kids, or our kids' kids that line of separation will be blurred until it's completely gone. Resisting that and holding on to the past won't stop it and will only cause you grief.



Tiger's not more Asian. His momma's a half-breed

I don't think you got what paisleypark4 meant. The term black (in the U.S.) does not imply full African. All Black Americans are mixed, so giving a list of this that and this is acenine and stems from fucked up slave masters. There's nothing wrong with mixing, we're all mixed...but we're BLACK. Tiger and Mariah would have slaves just like me and not nessesarily working in the big house. You can't fit every light-skinned muthafucka in one house.

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Reply #134 posted 04/12/05 11:22pm

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She's been on the cover of Jet and Latina magazine....

The problem with Mariah is she creates the misunderstanding by being incomprehensible. Ego Trip's Race-O-Rama called her a tragic mulatto. She is. I'm sure she will send a letter to Essence for labeling her a black woman and have them retract it. However, she does seem to be more "black" these days. It's all about the money and what race will benefit her for the moment. She has insinuated in past interviews that her "whiteness" was more of a creation of her ex-husband. In one of my Jet magazines, she sad that she used to say she was black when people would ask her what race she was (before fame) and would immediately follow-up with "what are you mixed with?" She decided to stop saying she was black and just list what she is mixed with. It's a little silly because all black americans are mixed



CORRECTION: Mariah's Irish Mother is the blame for that BS!

Think about it.

It was her mother that encourage her to say that she is biracial & needed to act like it full-time.

Halle Berry's white mother was THE exactly opposite by encourage her to say that she is a black woman. Period!

See there ladies & gentlemen. It always the parents who decide racial classifications. It's stupid sometimes. But that's society for you.
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Reply #135 posted 04/13/05 6:40am

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who cares? I just want to hear her sing!
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Reply #136 posted 04/13/05 6:51am

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paisleypark4 said:

Dont matter how much percentage of "black" u have in you.. U BLACK. I could slap Tiger upside his natural head.



lol


btw,I got that Essence magazine,and the article is very good.
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Reply #137 posted 04/13/05 8:37pm

Janfriend

TonyVanDam said:

Janfriend said:

She's been on the cover of Jet and Latina magazine....

The problem with Mariah is she creates the misunderstanding by being incomprehensible. Ego Trip's Race-O-Rama called her a tragic mulatto. She is. I'm sure she will send a letter to Essence for labeling her a black woman and have them retract it. However, she does seem to be more "black" these days. It's all about the money and what race will benefit her for the moment. She has insinuated in past interviews that her "whiteness" was more of a creation of her ex-husband. In one of my Jet magazines, she sad that she used to say she was black when people would ask her what race she was (before fame) and would immediately follow-up with "what are you mixed with?" She decided to stop saying she was black and just list what she is mixed with. It's a little silly because all black americans are mixed



CORRECTION: Mariah's Irish Mother is the blame for that BS!

Think about it.

It was her mother that encourage her to say that she is biracial & needed to act like it full-time.

Halle Berry's white mother was THE exactly opposite by encourage her to say that she is a black woman. Period!

See there ladies & gentlemen. It always the parents who decide racial classifications. It's stupid sometimes. But that's society for you.


I agree. It's usually the white "free love" parents that fuck their mixed kids up
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Reply #138 posted 04/13/05 9:27pm

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Alasseon said:

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I never bought that name change story...it's not common latino's regardless of their race changing their surnames when coming to the USA...being Latino our last names are our pride, and I heard her father was a Black Venezolano NOT mixed with African-American and Afro-Venezolano.


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It's funny that way. Within my own family, my uncle changed his name from "Lados" to "Sides" but everyone else kept their last name. Why did he change it? To this day, we have no clue, but he was the darkest out of all of the family, spoke fluent Spanish and English, and felt that he could make his way in the US with an American-sounding name.

Think of Emilio Estevez and Charlie Sheen. Martin Sheen, the father, was born Martin Estevez, if I am not mistaken. For their professional names, one son went back to the family name, the other chose his dad's professional name.

Nowadays, I think you're right. No one seems to change their name anymore, but back thirty, forty, or fifty years ago, who knows? Rita Hayworth, anyone?




yeah i am aware alot of Latin stars switched their names like the ones you have mentioned...most of them did do it to get work in the bizz...but i hardly think that was the case when her father allegedly did it.
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