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PrintableI'm just not getting it folks - a couple is divorced & the wife needs money so she sells her wedding ring. Whats so horrible or trashy about that? What should she do - save for her daughter? Display it in her living room? Have it made into a brooch? It was a gift to her & she doesn't want it anymore so she is selling it. Big deal. | |
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THis thread is about Debbie Rowe selling MJ's engagement ring
On top of this, are people not allowed to state what they think of MJ in open threads about MJ. It's called a message board, where we share opinions, y'know I haven´t said you´re not allowed to state your opinion. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: like im gonna trust a washed up old coot like Liz Taylor who is also infamous for being a psycho, to tell me how great MJ is.....
There are another two ppl if you haven´t notice. I see them, and i still don't take their word for it completely. I understand MJ likes children, just too much which is why he is in court. He doesn't know limits when it comes to getting close to other's children. Sleeping in the same bed? With boys? why not girls? It's lovely is it not? People who used to be good friends with MJ like Cher and Paul McCartney have all said how MJ shouldn't have children and that is is not capable of being a parent. And Cher and Paul have been great parents themselves | |
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I'm just not getting it folks - a couple is divorced & the wife needs money so she sells her wedding ring. Whats so horrible or trashy about that? What should she do - save for her daughter? Display it in her living room? Have it made into a brooch? It was a gift to her & she doesn't want it anymore so she is selling it. Big deal.
You´re right actually. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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jayaredee said: Luv4oneanotha said: Please im a Taoist! Its just a picture of the road warrior, pointing a gun with the caption "YOU LOSE" I don't know Toaist beliefs.... anywho, i still don't get the prostitute comment..... doesn't need to be understood... its an insult! Why should i even bother, Insulting you is like playing tackle football with a down syndrome victim... Its just not right... so i fold and you win this battle of wits... | |
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thedoorkeeper said: I'm just not getting it folks - a couple is divorced & the wife needs money so she sells her wedding ring. Whats so horrible or trashy about that? What should she do - save for her daughter? Display it in her living room? Have it made into a brooch? It was a gift to her & she doesn't want it anymore so she is selling it. Big deal.
I totally agree. And she hasn't had a job in years and MJ suddenly cuts her off without warning??? | |
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People who used to be good friends with MJ like Cher and Paul McCartney have all said how MJ shouldn't have children and that is is not capable of being a parent. And Cher and Paul have been great parents themselves
haven´t heard anything from Paul. When did he say that. As far as I know, he was with him during 93 scandal. And BTW you´re right about that part that they USED to be friends which means that they haven´t seen him as a father. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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jayaredee said: thedoorkeeper said: I'm just not getting it folks - a couple is divorced & the wife needs money so she sells her wedding ring. Whats so horrible or trashy about that? What should she do - save for her daughter? Display it in her living room? Have it made into a brooch? It was a gift to her & she doesn't want it anymore so she is selling it. Big deal.
I totally agree. And she hasn't had a job in years and MJ suddenly cuts her off without warning??? So big fucking deal if MJ cuts her off. Shit, she got off easy anyway. I don't have any sympathy for Miss Trailer Trash USA at all. | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: jayaredee said: I don't know Toaist beliefs.... anywho, i still don't get the prostitute comment..... doesn't need to be understood... its an insult! Why should i even bother, Insulting you is like playing tackle football with a down syndrome victim... Its just not right... so i fold and you win this battle of wits... I can honestly give a shit what an out of touch MJ fanatic thinks of me. Just cause we don't see eye to eye with MJ.... | |
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Hotlegs said: jayaredee said: I totally agree. And she hasn't had a job in years and MJ suddenly cuts her off without warning??? So big fucking deal if MJ cuts her off. Shit, she got off easy anyway. I don't have any sympathy for Miss Trailer Trash USA at all. MJ is not much more classier than her. She ain't facing the jury for child molestation. On top of that she deserves her kids back, they're more hers than they are his | |
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dag said: People who used to be good friends with MJ like Cher and Paul McCartney have all said how MJ shouldn't have children and that is is not capable of being a parent. And Cher and Paul have been great parents themselves
haven´t heard anything from Paul. When did he say that. As far as I know, he was with him during 93 scandal. And BTW you´re right about that part that they USED to be friends which means that they haven´t seen him as a father. yes they have... we've all seen MJ as a father and it ain't pretty | |
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jayaredee said:[quote] Luv4oneanotha said: I can honestly give a shit what an out of touch MJ fanatic thinks of me. Just cause we don't see eye to eye with MJ.... Obviously u do 'cause u keep responding!! On-topic, Michael cut Debbie off because she breached a legal aggreement between them in one of her latest interviews, and he has the right 2 put a halt 2 payments if she breaches it. | |
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Obviously u do 'cause u keep responding!!
No im responding due to our views of MJ. not personal attacks towards me my dear. | |
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jayaredee said: Hotlegs said: So big fucking deal if MJ cuts her off. Shit, she got off easy anyway. I don't have any sympathy for Miss Trailer Trash USA at all. MJ is not much more classier than her. She ain't facing the jury for child molestation. On top of that she deserves her kids back, they're more hers than they are his actually because she gave her rights away as legal guardian and mother... Legally those children arent hers... She gave them away in return for a position on MJ's Payroll Simply put she pimped her children out for a steady cash flow Legally she can try to get her kids back, but she most likely will lose the battle because of the various documents she signed... giving Jackson sole custody Now if jackson gets convicted (not likely) she has a better shot at the children... but she would be battling jacksons trustees for custody, long story short... she aint gettin them kids lol | |
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jayaredee said: Hotlegs said: So big fucking deal if MJ cuts her off. Shit, she got off easy anyway. I don't have any sympathy for Miss Trailer Trash USA at all. MJ is not much more classier than her. She ain't facing the jury for child molestation. On top of that she deserves her kids back, they're more hers than they are his Miss Trailer Trash is just as fuck as he is if she can give up kids for money and sell shit on E-Bay. To tell you the truth, they both are fucking nuts and was crazy muthafucka to think people will forget about her past. Give me a fucking break. | |
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yes they have...
we've all seen MJ as a father and it ain't pretty If you think you can tell what kind of father MJ is just by that baby dangling thing, than I don´t know what to think. I´ve said all I wanted on this topic. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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On top of that she deserves her kids back, they're more hers than they are his
I am sorry, but this is the stupidest thing said on this thread so far. It was actually Debbie who said that "the fact that you give concieve a child does not give you a title parent. YOu earn the title!" I wonder what she has done so far to earn that title. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: yes they have...
we've all seen MJ as a father and it ain't pretty If you think you can tell what kind of father MJ is just by that baby dangling thing, than I don´t know what to think. I´ve said all I wanted on this topic. Dag give Jay some slack... The berlin incident with blanket was pretty insane, even for mj and mj would pretty much had a problem if he did that in the us... since it was out of the country berlin officials couldn't do much about it... But to counter, one tiny incident isn't sufficient proof that jackson is a child neglecter or a bad father. A bad father in the U.S. is someone who abuses children mentally and physically, neglects them, and treats them like... shit pretty much Not live in an amusement park... have a whole bunch of toys... butlers and nanny's who do whatever you say and ask... hell im surprised those children aren't spoiled rotten so what they have to go outside in veils... small price for living in neverland, I'd rather have mj as my father, then the spineless S.O.B. i have to call Dad now hmmm... perhaps i've said too much... [Edited 3/5/05 13:42pm] | |
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VoicesCarry said: jayaredee said: that's how i feel. maybe 1 but 3???? Odds are against him Im not against him having children (unless abuse is present) but i don't feel that those are his kids. Skin color is by polygenetic inheritance. It's not a case of "you don't have the allele, so you aren't black." His kids should at least exhibit some biracial qualities (with respect to skin color and otherwise), but they don't. They appear to be 100 % caucasian. Skin color is also determined by your environment, but there's no way that their "environment" would make michael jackson's real biological children so obviously white. | |
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Dag give Jay some slack...
Why should I fall in his/her category? The berlin incident with blanket was pretty insane, even for mj
Did you hear that MJ wept this week while watching that in court? Poor thing - I know how he feels. After the worst thing I´ve ever done I felt so bad I wept for 2 days and wasn´t able to even eat - that´s how bad I felt. I had the luxury of keeping it private though. Can´t imagine what it must feel like when you know you messed up big time and on top of that you get critized and reminded of that by the whole world years afterwards. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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jacktheimprovident said: VoicesCarry said: Skin color is by polygenetic inheritance. It's not a case of "you don't have the allele, so you aren't black." His kids should at least exhibit some biracial qualities (with respect to skin color and otherwise), but they don't. They appear to be 100 % caucasian. Skin color is also determined by your environment, but there's no way that their "environment" would make michael jackson's real biological children so obviously white. Its all genetics... what determines a strong gene? Purity in the blood line, Each race has specific impurities in a gene pool... They become impure because of evolution and race mixing. african america genetics are infinitely weaker than say an Aryan Anglo... A. american genetics have undergone a number of mutation since slavery... thus theirs a wide variety of cultures in the blood stream. from spanish,native american,white. etc... thus this has a toll on the superiority of the genetics. Aryan Genetics (blue eye, blond hair) are infinitely stronger because of how pure the blood is... Aryans never mixed with other races. and led isolated lives etc... thus their strand of DNA is Stronger, If you mix an african american with an aryan bloodline... aryan will most likely have the most features in there, such as skin color etc. (it wouldn't look tan like a normal biracial child, though i know some bi's that have white skin color and are mixed) The black features will shoe in probably the facial structure... the hair color, the eye color.. to compare to Jacksons children... They both have black/brown hair, and they both have brown eyes much like their father... at the moment this is the only way to tell they are his, unless you have a better shot at their face... throughout the years the Childrens skin color may change, as well as their eye color... in order to understand this you have to comprehend the gentics of different cultures... genes are very funny, but just because the skin color is white... does not mean they are not his children... that kind of logic is extremely ignorant. Genes are unpredictable | |
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throughout the years the Childrens skin color may change, as well as their eye color...
I personally was born with black hair, at the age of three I had totally white hair and today I am brunette. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: throughout the years the Childrens skin color may change, as well as their eye color...
I personally was born with black hair, at the age of three I had totally white hair and today I am brunette. Exactly! When i was born i have an Ice Blue Eye color when i turned 3 they turned into a cloudy green, by the time i was 5 i had brown eye s(Fuck i wanted blue eyes  )
Why does this happen... Cause Brown eyes are infinely stronger than blue eyes thats a law in genetics lol | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: jayaredee said: MJ is not much more classier than her. She ain't facing the jury for child molestation. On top of that she deserves her kids back, they're more hers than they are his actually because she gave her rights away as legal guardian and mother... Legally those children arent hers... She gave them away in return for a position on MJ's Payroll Simply put she pimped her children out for a steady cash flow Legally she can try to get her kids back, but she most likely will lose the battle because of the various documents she signed... giving Jackson sole custody Now if jackson gets convicted (not likely) she has a better shot at the children... but she would be battling jacksons trustees for custody, long story short... she aint gettin them kids lol   | |
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Hey, Handclaps, can you educate me and tell me how a thread about MJs ex wifes wedding ring ebay sale is relevent to this Music thread?
I need to understand why this is more relevent than Mj pictures? . | |
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SassyBritches said: dag said: Here´s another picture of his kids. Well you can´t see Paris´face, but what do you think guys.
 these are two white children. No way are those Jacko's kids. He probably bought them off Debbie Rowe. There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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SquirrelMeat said: Hey, Handclaps, can you educate me and tell me how a thread about MJs ex wifes wedding ring ebay sale is relevent to this Music thread?
I need to understand why this is more relevent than Mj pictures? There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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Shapeshifter said: SassyBritches said: these are two white children. No way are those Jacko's kids. He probably bought them off Debbie Rowe. 
i have way too much time on my hands lol | |
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scorp84 said: Madonna isn't Michael Jackson. Madonna isn't a perfect parent, nor is any1 else. Michael Jackson doesn't know what's best 4 Madonna's children, just as Madonna doesn't know what's best 4 Michael's kids. Parents have 2 do what they think is best 4 their kids, not any1 else. All parents make mistakes. Let us all see how u raise ur kids, so we can tell u what's acceptable and what's not acceptable parenting. Unless u want Michael Jackson telling u how 2 raise ur kids, don't tell him how he should raise his. Tell me will you still defend MJ when the children will turn  because of this Neverland-shell nonsense?
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Luv4oneanotha said: jacktheimprovident said: Skin color is also determined by your environment, but there's no way that their "environment" would make michael jackson's real biological children so obviously white. Its all genetics... what determines a strong gene? Purity in the blood line, Each race has specific impurities in a gene pool... They become impure because of evolution and race mixing. african america genetics are infinitely weaker than say an Aryan Anglo... A. american genetics have undergone a number of mutation since slavery... thus theirs a wide variety of cultures in the blood stream. from spanish,native american,white. etc... thus this has a toll on the superiority of the genetics. Aryan Genetics (blue eye, blond hair) are infinitely stronger because of how pure the blood is... Aryans never mixed with other races. and led isolated lives etc... thus their strand of DNA is Stronger, If you mix an african american with an aryan bloodline... aryan will most likely have the most features in there, such as skin color etc. (it wouldn't look tan like a normal biracial child, though i know some bi's that have white skin color and are mixed) The black features will shoe in probably the facial structure... the hair color, the eye color.. to compare to Jacksons children... They both have black/brown hair, and they both have brown eyes much like their father... at the moment this is the only way to tell they are his, unless you have a better shot at their face... throughout the years the Childrens skin color may change, as well as their eye color... in order to understand this you have to comprehend the gentics of different cultures... genes are very funny, but just because the skin color is white... does not mean they are not his children... that kind of logic is extremely ignorant. Genes are unpredictable You may try and get away with acting like a lawyer, but don't try and fake being a geneticist. That's some pretty funny shit right there. | |
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