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PrintableDavidEye said: Seriously,this only shows how dumb Michael is.He always gets involved with "questionable" people.....Debbie Rowe....a gay porno director who is now suing him....a family who has a long history of filing bogus abuse lawsuits....
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From those tiny bits I saw on Bashir, they didn´t seem to mind wearing them.
That baby dangling incident was the stupidest mistake he´s ever done and Ibelive he knows that. I read that during watching that thing in court he cried at that moment. But I still think he´s responsible. I´ve been workin as a nanny for 2 years and seen ppl doing also some of the stupidest mistakes. One man for example let their three-year old kid sitting in a car with started engine while he was standing outside, the car pulled one stick and the car started to go heading to a house that was 3 meters away - as dangerous as what MJ did. Yet he was a great father. Ppl just do stupid mistakes. I´ve done a lot looking after the kids and I´ve seen almost about every parent do one. We are just lucky that our mistakes aren´t captured on camera and showed to the whole world. You can argue that nobody else in the world would do though what MJ did, but on the other hand NOBODY else in the world has a crowd of ppl yelling under your windows days and nights. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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Not very surprising or shocking that a woman who would be willing to rent out her uterus and sell her own children for a price would sell her wedding ring on Ebay.
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KaleidoscopeEyes said: Not very surprising or shocking that a woman who would be willing to rent out her uterus and sell her own children for a price would sell her wedding ring on Ebay.
Greed is greed is greed is greed.  Exactly. All Miss Thing really did is really is make her self look even low than the true Trailer Trash that she is and that's not got going help her case. Sadly enough, this shit is actually kind of funny how triflin this tric really is and crazy his ass was for paying her to be the surrogote. | |
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We know those kids ain't got no Jackson blood runing through there veins, the fact that he tries to pimp it off like he actually sexed Debbie is a joke. I think Michael is gay and this stuff about him having kids and his fake marriage to Lisa Marie was all a smoke screen to hide his homo-sexuality. | |
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scorp84 said: jayaredee said: i think it's horrible to put masks over his children when they're in the public. It's not fair to the kids.
Madonna doesn't do it to her kids and they're around the same age as MJ's kids. And no other celebrity parent to my knowledge does that to their kids. Why should he have 2 raise his kids like Madonna, or any other celebrity, 4 that matter raises their kids? How do u,one of the most recognizable artists in the world (I'm assuming)handle all the death threats and hate mail ur children recieve on a daily basis? The masks r off when they're not in public. They go 2 school (in their own way), and they have little friends their age. All of that can b put in serious jeopardy if one little photograph of their faces is splashed all over magazines and t.v. shows. He doesn't want his kids (in their early stages) subjected 2 all that chaos. About the blue eyes thing, Joseph (Michael's father) also has blue eyes.Isn't it pretty unfair 2 say that they don't look anything like their father when the majority of us haven't even seen them (facial features)! It doesn't really concern me whether he is their biological father or not , they have someone who's trying 2 do right by them, regardless. | |
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jayaredee said: Is Madonna not a big name? In most cases she's just as big as MJ in the fame game and the fact she doesn't do that to her kids gives me enough reason to believe that MJ shouldn't have to do that to his kids. it's wrong and cruel, and if you don't believe that, i'd be afraid to see how you raise kids. And this is the same man who dangles his kid from the balcony. Not a responsible parent. Sorry Madonna isn't Michael Jackson. Madonna isn't a perfect parent, nor is any1 else. Michael Jackson doesn't know what's best 4 Madonna's children, just as Madonna doesn't know what's best 4 Michael's kids. Parents have 2 do what they think is best 4 their kids, not any1 else. All parents make mistakes. Let us all see how u raise ur kids, so we can tell u what's acceptable and what's not acceptable parenting. Unless u want Michael Jackson telling u how 2 raise ur kids, don't tell him how he should raise his. | |
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Madonna isn't Michael Jackson. Madonna isn't a perfect parent, nor is any1 else. Michael Jackson doesn't know what's best 4 Madonna's children, just as Madonna doesn't know what's best 4 Michael's kids. Parents have 2 do what they think is best 4 their kids, not any1 else. All parents make mistakes. Let us all see how u raise ur kids, so we can tell u what's acceptable and what's not acceptable parenting. Unless u want Michael Jackson telling u how 2 raise ur kids, don't tell him how he should raise his.    "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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scorp84 said: jayaredee said: Is Madonna not a big name? In most cases she's just as big as MJ in the fame game and the fact she doesn't do that to her kids gives me enough reason to believe that MJ shouldn't have to do that to his kids. it's wrong and cruel, and if you don't believe that, i'd be afraid to see how you raise kids. And this is the same man who dangles his kid from the balcony. Not a responsible parent. Sorry Madonna isn't Michael Jackson. Madonna isn't a perfect parent, nor is any1 else. Michael Jackson doesn't know what's best 4 Madonna's children, just as Madonna doesn't know what's best 4 Michael's kids. Parents have 2 do what they think is best 4 their kids, not any1 else. All parents make mistakes. Let us all see how u raise ur kids, so we can tell u what's acceptable and what's not acceptable parenting. Unless u want Michael Jackson telling u how 2 raise ur kids, don't tell him how he should raise his. Well Said. | |
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scorp84 said: jayaredee said: Is Madonna not a big name? In most cases she's just as big as MJ in the fame game and the fact she doesn't do that to her kids gives me enough reason to believe that MJ shouldn't have to do that to his kids. it's wrong and cruel, and if you don't believe that, i'd be afraid to see how you raise kids. And this is the same man who dangles his kid from the balcony. Not a responsible parent. Sorry Madonna isn't Michael Jackson. Madonna isn't a perfect parent, nor is any1 else. Michael Jackson doesn't know what's best 4 Madonna's children, just as Madonna doesn't know what's best 4 Michael's kids. Parents have 2 do what they think is best 4 their kids, not any1 else. All parents make mistakes. Let us all see how u raise ur kids, so we can tell u what's acceptable and what's not acceptable parenting. Unless u want Michael Jackson telling u how 2 raise ur kids, don't tell him how he should raise his. Sadly i have to agree, To compare madonna to Michael Jackson, is quite off, One is a single parent and ha s abunch of nanny's the other has a husband and a bunch of nanny's, Their apples and oranges... I seriously hate people who tell others how to raise their children... its just so much disrespect I say as long a sthe children arent being physically or mentally abused, its all right with me. I'd rather their identities be hidden, them to have the ordeal of being Michael Jacksons Children... At least they can go out in public without their father and stay hidden... an ideal luxury, Unlike their father... who can't set foot outside, without the whole world watching him... thats a horrific lifestyle... I never want to be that famous... | |
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scorp84 said: jayaredee said: Is Madonna not a big name? In most cases she's just as big as MJ in the fame game and the fact she doesn't do that to her kids gives me enough reason to believe that MJ shouldn't have to do that to his kids. it's wrong and cruel, and if you don't believe that, i'd be afraid to see how you raise kids. And this is the same man who dangles his kid from the balcony. Not a responsible parent. Sorry Madonna isn't Michael Jackson. Madonna isn't a perfect parent, nor is any1 else. Michael Jackson doesn't know what's best 4 Madonna's children, just as Madonna doesn't know what's best 4 Michael's kids. Parents have 2 do what they think is best 4 their kids, not any1 else. All parents make mistakes. Let us all see how u raise ur kids, so we can tell u what's acceptable and what's not acceptable parenting. Unless u want Michael Jackson telling u how 2 raise ur kids, don't tell him how he should raise his. MJ is notorious for his bad parenting especially for his baby dangling. I think madonna has a little more respect for her children Besides, MJ is always in the public eye so i can state whatever the fuck i want about his parenting. One things for sure, my children wouldn't be wearing fucking spiderman masks to the mall. Im sorry, but just cause you guys lick MJ's ass at every move doesn't make him a great person. Open your eyes to reality and not be trapped in MJ's fantasy world. That's the problem with MJ fans..... never in touch with reality [Edited 3/5/05 12:27pm] | |
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Abdul said: We know those kids ain't got no Jackson blood runing through there veins, the fact that he tries to pimp it off like he actually sexed Debbie is a joke. I think Michael is gay and this stuff about him having kids and his fake marriage to Lisa Marie was all a smoke screen to hide his homo-sexuality.
Absolutely It's easier to come out of the closet then to pretend to be something your not. A lot of MJ's craziness is due to his hard time coming to terms with his sexuality. How sad. | |
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. Open your eyes to reality and not be trapped in MJ's fantasy world.
The problem is though that your reality is far away from MJ´s reality! [/quote]One things for sure, my children wouldn't be wearing fucking spiderman masks to the mall. [quote] "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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jayaredee said: scorp84 said: Madonna isn't Michael Jackson. Madonna isn't a perfect parent, nor is any1 else. Michael Jackson doesn't know what's best 4 Madonna's children, just as Madonna doesn't know what's best 4 Michael's kids. Parents have 2 do what they think is best 4 their kids, not any1 else. All parents make mistakes. Let us all see how u raise ur kids, so we can tell u what's acceptable and what's not acceptable parenting. Unless u want Michael Jackson telling u how 2 raise ur kids, don't tell him how he should raise his. MJ is notorious for his bad parenting especially for his baby dangling. I think madonna has a little more respect for his children Besides, MJ is always in the public eye so i can state whatever the fuck i want about his parenting. One things for sure, my children wouldn't be wearing fucking spiderman masks to the mall. Im sorry, but just cause you guys lick MJ's ass at every move doesn't make him a great person. Open your eyes to reality and not be trapped in MJ's fantasy world. That's the problem with MJ fans..... never in touch with reality  | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: jayaredee said: MJ is notorious for his bad parenting especially for his baby dangling. I think madonna has a little more respect for his children Besides, MJ is always in the public eye so i can state whatever the fuck i want about his parenting. One things for sure, my children wouldn't be wearing fucking spiderman masks to the mall. Im sorry, but just cause you guys lick MJ's ass at every move doesn't make him a great person. Open your eyes to reality and not be trapped in MJ's fantasy world. That's the problem with MJ fans..... never in touch with reality wow this sure makes a point worthwhile  | |
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jayaredee said: Luv4oneanotha said: wow this sure makes a point worthwhile glad ya liked it heres another one just for you  | |
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Typical MJ worshippers
always out of touch | |
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jayaredee said: MJ is notorious for his bad parenting especially for his baby dangling. I think madonna has a little more respect for his children Besides, MJ is always in the public eye so i can state whatever the fuck i want about his parenting. One things for sure, my children wouldn't be wearing fucking spiderman masks to the mall. Im sorry, but just cause you guys lick MJ's ass at every move doesn't make him a great person. Open your eyes to reality and not be trapped in MJ's fantasy world. That's the problem with MJ fans..... never in touch with reality I'm sorry, but ur generalizations of Michael Jackson fans pretty much killed the validity of anything u said prior 2 that. U don't have 2 raise ur kids like Michael's, u decide what's best 4 them, not Michael. U don't have 2 put masks on ur kid's faces, because, guess what? U're not Michael Jackson! U can state whatever u want, just like I can. But, u don't have 2 b immature about it and disrespect others, either because (deep down) u think they're right, or u just can't accept their point of view. U're out of touch with reality if u believe that everything u see on t.v. is how it always is behind closed doors. I'm sorry that I had 2 exploit ur ignorant views. | |
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scorp84 said: jayaredee said: MJ is notorious for his bad parenting especially for his baby dangling. I think madonna has a little more respect for his children Besides, MJ is always in the public eye so i can state whatever the fuck i want about his parenting. One things for sure, my children wouldn't be wearing fucking spiderman masks to the mall. Im sorry, but just cause you guys lick MJ's ass at every move doesn't make him a great person. Open your eyes to reality and not be trapped in MJ's fantasy world. That's the problem with MJ fans..... never in touch with reality I'm sorry, but ur generalizations of Michael Jackson fans pretty much killed the validity of anything u said prior 2 that. U don't have 2 raise ur kids like Michael's, u decide what's best 4 them, not Michael. U don't have 2 put masks on ur kid's faces, because, guess what? U're not Michael Jackson! U can state whatever u want, just like I can. But, u don't have 2 b immature about it and disrespect others, either because (deep down) u think they're right, or u just can't accept their point of view. U're out of touch with reality if u believe that everything u see on t.v. is how it always is behind closed doors. I'm sorry that I had 2 exploit ur ignorant views. Ouch Scorp 2 Jay 0 | |
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scorp84 said: jayaredee said: MJ is notorious for his bad parenting especially for his baby dangling. I think madonna has a little more respect for his children Besides, MJ is always in the public eye so i can state whatever the fuck i want about his parenting. One things for sure, my children wouldn't be wearing fucking spiderman masks to the mall. Im sorry, but just cause you guys lick MJ's ass at every move doesn't make him a great person. Open your eyes to reality and not be trapped in MJ's fantasy world. That's the problem with MJ fans..... never in touch with reality I'm sorry, but ur generalizations of Michael Jackson fans pretty much killed the validity of anything u said prior 2 that. U don't have 2 raise ur kids like Michael's, u decide what's best 4 them, not Michael. U don't have 2 put masks on ur kid's faces, because, guess what? U're not Michael Jackson! U can state whatever u want, just like I can. But, u don't have 2 b immature about it and disrespect others, either because (deep down) u think they're right, or u just can't accept their point of view. U're out of touch with reality if u believe that everything u see on t.v. is how it always is behind closed doors. I'm sorry that I had 2 exploit ur ignorant views. I also don't have to dangle my baby over the balcony because im not Michael Jackson. Yup im ignorant cause i think mj is a bad parent which has been claimed by many celebrities such as Cher who agree MJ should have his children taken away from him. And you're the one who can't accept my view point because you insist on arguing. If dangling your baby is what you call MJ being a good parent, then great, dangle your baby right over the balcony will ya. [Edited 3/5/05 12:57pm] | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: scorp84 said: I'm sorry, but ur generalizations of Michael Jackson fans pretty much killed the validity of anything u said prior 2 that. U don't have 2 raise ur kids like Michael's, u decide what's best 4 them, not Michael. U don't have 2 put masks on ur kid's faces, because, guess what? U're not Michael Jackson! U can state whatever u want, just like I can. But, u don't have 2 b immature about it and disrespect others, either because (deep down) u think they're right, or u just can't accept their point of view. U're out of touch with reality if u believe that everything u see on t.v. is how it always is behind closed doors. I'm sorry that I had 2 exploit ur ignorant views. Ouch Scorp 2 Jay 0 stated like a true MJ ass licker | |
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jayaredee said: Luv4oneanotha said: Ouch Scorp 2 Jay 0 stated like a true MJ ass licker rather someone famous than the prostitute you call your mother ...  | |
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But, u don't have 2 b immature about it and disrespect others, either because (deep down) u think they're right, or u just can't accept their point of view
exactly. those so-called ppl-in-touch-with-reality just love to come and visit every MJ thread, which proves that they´re not less "obsessive" than any of us -the so-called "fanatics", because otherwise they´d be able to ignore them like they ignore most threads about other celebrities. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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I am sorry, I must have missed the great friendship that Cher and MJ have been sharing over the past few years.
Well, here´s what other celebrities have to say about MJ as the father and as far as I know - they´ve been in touch with MJ. Open letter from Gregory Peck Dear Michael, You are recognized as a great artist all over the world, but very few know you as a father. We have been close friends and have known you over twenty-five years. We have spent many times together with you, Prince, Paris, and Prince Michael who all play happily with our own grandchildren. We and our children, who are of your generation, have always admired you as a loving and caring father. Your children could not have a better father. They love you and respect you. You raised them with gentleness and kindness and genuine concern for their well-being. Their joy and love are a reflection of your attention and love as a parent. Those who criticize and judge you should do well to look into theri own family life. We have seen you countless times as an attentive and devoted father, and we join your many friends who stand beside you and your family now. With love Veronique and Greg Barry Gibb: As a father of five, it was obvious to Linda and I that you were all very happy and that they love you as much as you love them. Open letter from Elizabeth Taylor: My beloved Michael, I saw all the news on TV of you showing the baby – I also saw the news on TV of you showing the baby – I also saw the tight grip you ahd under his armpits. The baby loves to b e swung around, and I know you could see the sheer part of the curtain. It´s a game for him and I know why you covered his face. All celebrity kids are shielded from being recognized for an obvious reason – they´re under constant threat from would-be kidnappers. I went through it as a child actress, Michael, and I know you did, too. Michael I have never seen a better or more loving parent. You are bringing your children up with singleminded love and manage to gently discipline them, as well. I have never seen two better behaved or lovabel children (including my own). You are an exemplary father. You would no more take a chance with your children´s safety than fly to the moon. If people could only see you with the children, and the time you spend with them, and the love. Not just pretty clothes and gifts, but pureunconditional love. And they respond so completely in kind. If only you would let people see the real you more, but I understand how shy you are and you understand also how shy I am, but we are both professionals. I did my best to keep my kids away from the public eye, and they have grown up so beautifully. I am so proud of them, and yours are kids I am proud to know. They are so beautiufl inside and out, like you. Do t ever let them get you down, Michael. You´re loved by too many, especially this kid. I love you just as much as I laways have and understand you just as much as I always have. Don´t hide. You haven´t done anything to be ashamed of. Be proud of how you are bringin up your children. God knows I am. I love you wth all my heart, and because I know you so well, I will always understand where others may not. But you now something: Screw the others! All my love Elizabeth "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: jayaredee said: stated like a true MJ ass licker rather someone famous than the prostitute you call your mother ... Considering i cannot see any of the pics you are posting, i assume you are calling my mother a postitute according to your statement? Nice..... | |
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dag said: I am sorry, I must have missed the great friendship that Cher and MJ have been sharing over the past few years.
Well, here´s what other celebrities have to say about MJ as the father and as far as I know - they´ve been in touch with MJ. Open letter from Gregory Peck Dear Michael, You are recognized as a great artist all over the world, but very few know you as a father. We have been close friends and have known you over twenty-five years. We have spent many times together with you, Prince, Paris, and Prince Michael who all play happily with our own grandchildren. We and our children, who are of your generation, have always admired you as a loving and caring father. Your children could not have a better father. They love you and respect you. You raised them with gentleness and kindness and genuine concern for their well-being. Their joy and love are a reflection of your attention and love as a parent. Those who criticize and judge you should do well to look into theri own family life. We have seen you countless times as an attentive and devoted father, and we join your many friends who stand beside you and your family now. With love Veronique and Greg Barry Gibb: As a father of five, it was obvious to Linda and I that you were all very happy and that they love you as much as you love them. Open letter from Elizabeth Taylor: My beloved Michael, I saw all the news on TV of you showing the baby – I also saw the news on TV of you showing the baby – I also saw the tight grip you ahd under his armpits. The baby loves to b e swung around, and I know you could see the sheer part of the curtain. It´s a game for him and I know why you covered his face. All celebrity kids are shielded from being recognized for an obvious reason – they´re under constant threat from would-be kidnappers. I went through it as a child actress, Michael, and I know you did, too. Michael I have never seen a better or more loving parent. You are bringing your children up with singleminded love and manage to gently discipline them, as well. I have never seen two better behaved or lovabel children (including my own). You are an exemplary father. You would no more take a chance with your children´s safety than fly to the moon. If people could only see you with the children, and the time you spend with them, and the love. Not just pretty clothes and gifts, but pureunconditional love. And they respond so completely in kind. If only you would let people see the real you more, but I understand how shy you are and you understand also how shy I am, but we are both professionals. I did my best to keep my kids away from the public eye, and they have grown up so beautifully. I am so proud of them, and yours are kids I am proud to know. They are so beautiufl inside and out, like you. Do t ever let them get you down, Michael. You´re loved by too many, especially this kid. I love you just as much as I laways have and understand you just as much as I always have. Don´t hide. You haven´t done anything to be ashamed of. Be proud of how you are bringin up your children. God knows I am. I love you wth all my heart, and because I know you so well, I will always understand where others may not. But you now something: Screw the others! All my love Elizabeth like im gonna trust a washed up old coot like Liz Taylor who is also infamous for being a psycho, to tell me how great MJ is..... | |
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jayaredee said: Luv4oneanotha said: rather someone famous than the prostitute you call your mother ... Considering i cannot see any of the pics you are posting, i assume you are calling my mother a postitute according to your statement? Nice..... Please im a Taoist! Its just a picture of the road warrior, pointing a gun with the caption "YOU LOSE" | |
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like im gonna trust a washed up old coot like Liz Taylor who is also infamous for being a psycho, to tell me how great MJ is.....
There are another two ppl if you haven´t notice. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: But, u don't have 2 b immature about it and disrespect others, either because (deep down) u think they're right, or u just can't accept their point of view
exactly. those so-called ppl-in-touch-with-reality just love to come and visit every MJ thread, which proves that they´re not less "obsessive" than any of us -the so-called "fanatics", because otherwise they´d be able to ignore them like they ignore most threads about other celebrities. THis thread is about Debbie Rowe selling MJ's engagement ring On top of this, are people not allowed to state what they think of MJ in open threads about MJ. It's called a message board, where we share opinions, y'know | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: jayaredee said: Considering i cannot see any of the pics you are posting, i assume you are calling my mother a postitute according to your statement? Nice..... Please im a Taoist! Its just a picture of the road warrior, pointing a gun with the caption "YOU LOSE" I don't know Toaist beliefs.... anywho, i still don't get the prostitute comment..... | |
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