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Printabledag said: I don´t understand why she does that. I mean is she so financally desperate to sell that?
From the media reports - yes! She was allegedly getting yearly $$ but MJ put a halt to that when she gave a TV or magazine tour of her home. How true that is - I don't know. Guess getting a job is out of the question. | |
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dag said: BTW, Mariah for example has also a black father and she´s no more darker than his kids. Does anyone have a pictures of her siblings whether they were white or black? I´ll try to look for some.
Mariah's brother is a little darker than she is. Mariah is fair but I think you can tell she looks biracial or not 100% caucasian as do many biracial people who are not just mixed with black and white genes. When Michael's newphews, 3T were toddlers and tweenies they looked more like Michael than his 3 kids. Same with Marlon's kids and some of Jermaine's who are biracial. The Jacksons have very strong genes but it's not just the complexion that gives folks doubt, it's that their features don't look like that of the Jacksons or that of African-American descent. Maybe things will change as they get older but for now it remains questionable. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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dag said: Remember that biologically, MJ is still a black man. His DNA isn't going to produce a blond haired, blue eyed kid, let alone 3.
Prince - black eyes, blond hair Paris - Blue eyes, dark hair Blanket (as far as we´v e seen) - black eyes and black hair. BTW guys, I was also surfing net trying to find out more about if it´s possible to have light skin kids and I found out it is. I even found a forum, where some black father was complaining that he even got once arrested, cause he was somewhere with is son who is blond haired and policemen didn´t believe it was his son (his mother was white). There were many stories like that. If I find that link, I´ll post it. (and that board definately was not connected in any way to MJ) BTW, Mariah for example has also a black father and she´s no more darker than his kids. Does anyone have a pictures of her siblings whether they were white or black? I´ll try to look for some. Well, you listen to "some black father" on genetics and the like, I'll just consult the Genetics courses I took at college. As Voices said, skin color is by polygenetic inheritance. There are other genes that would be passed along as well, ie: hair color and type, eye color, family resemblance. By the way, I think Mariah's father is from Venezuela. I think he's biracial, as well. Mariah is not half black, as MJ's kids would be. I'm the first mammal to wear pants. | |
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I'm sorry but this chick is a fucking joke 2 me.   | |
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When MJ's kids grow up and go out on their own, im sure we'll get more answers. | |
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Here´s another picture of his kids. Well you can´t see Paris´face, but what do you think guys.
 "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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and one more of Prince
 "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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DavidEye said: Seriously,this only shows how dumb Michael is.He always gets involved with "questionable" people.....Debbie Rowe....a gay porno director who is now suing him....a family who has a long history of filing bogus abuse lawsuits....
 Yeah, he's a moron. |
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dag said: Here´s another picture of his kids. Well you can´t see Paris´face, but what do you think guys.
I think they're white. | |
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dag said: Here´s another picture of his kids. Well you can´t see Paris´face, but what do you think guys.
these are two white children. | |
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Prince - Not his
Paris - His Blanket - Not his From Celebrity Justice | |
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the kid is not my son...
--Michael Jackson Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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70'000 dollars...Michael probably had that in his hands for less than a minute and someone is gonna pay over 100,000 dollars. [Edited 3/4/05 10:52am] | |
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JackieBlue said: the kid is not my son...
--Michael Jackson 
and there you have it out of the mouth of MJ himself | |
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VoicesCarry said: dag said: Here´s another picture of his kids. Well you can´t see Paris´face, but what do you think guys.
I think they're white. I think so too. I would love to see better photo's of them though before I could say for sure. I'm about 99% convinced these are not his kids. | |
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Prince - Not his
Paris - His Blanket - Not his From Celebrity Justice 70'000 dollars...Michael probably had that in his hands for less than a minute and someone is gonna pay over 100,000 dollars.
What are you talking about? Could you plz post the full articles? I think I am gonna keep my fanatical reputation by saying that no matter how "white" they seem to look, I believe they are his. None of us has seen them "properly", but let´s wait what the time´s gonna bring.  "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: Prince - Not his
Paris - His Blanket - Not his From Celebrity Justice 70'000 dollars...Michael probably had that in his hands for less than a minute and someone is gonna pay over 100,000 dollars.
What are you talking about? Could you plz post the full articles? I think I am gonna keep my fanatical reputation by saying that no matter how "white" they seem to look, I believe they are his. None of us has seen them "properly", but let´s wait what the time´s gonna bring. dag, honestly, if these were your neighbors kids yet your neighbor was a black man would you believe they were his? michael is, in reality, no different than anyone else. he doesn't have special dna that breaks the laws of nature. he can insist these children are his all he wants (just like he insists he has only had 2 nose jobs and NO other surgery) but reality tells us otherwise. | |
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dag, honestly, if these were your neighbors kids yet your neighbor was a black man would you believe they were his? michael is, in reality, no different than anyone else. he doesn't have special dna that breaks the laws of nature. he can insist these children are his all he wants (just like he insists he has only had 2 nose jobs and NO other surgery) but reality tells us otherwise.
let´s wait and see. I can´t argue with you, cause how can I prove it to you? All I can say is what I believe. I have my reasons to believe that - which you may not understand. Well we all think and view things differently, so..... It´s interesting that with his kids you all come up with all the dna and everything, but when it comes to his skin colour, I keep reading he bleaches his skin, yet NOBODY cares that it´s impossible. In that case, science is all of sudden irrelevat..... well we all see what we want to see, right? You know sometimes I wonder what is more insane - whether it´s MJ or ppl´s view on him, cause for example when it comes to his wives, ppl for example believe that it was all business and that there´s no way that he could have sex with any of them (I mean who else in this world besides LMP has been asked all over again to confirm that she REALLY had sex with her ex-HUSBAND) but when it comes to molestation case, all of sudden, he´s capable of sex - as most of the general public believes. You know, isn´t it weird? "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: dag, honestly, if these were your neighbors kids yet your neighbor was a black man would you believe they were his? michael is, in reality, no different than anyone else. he doesn't have special dna that breaks the laws of nature. he can insist these children are his all he wants (just like he insists he has only had 2 nose jobs and NO other surgery) but reality tells us otherwise.
let´s wait and see. I can´t argue with you, cause how can I prove it to you? All I can say is what I believe. I have my reasons to believe that - which you may not understand. Well we all think and view things differently, so..... It´s interesting that with his kids you all come up with all the dna and everything, but when it comes to his skin colour, I keep reading he bleaches his skin, yet NOBODY cares that it´s impossible. In that case, science is all of sudden irrelevat..... well we all see what we want to see, right? You know sometimes I wonder what is more insane - whether it´s MJ or ppl´s view on him, cause for example when it comes to his wives, ppl for example believe that it was all business and that there´s no way that he could have sex with any of them (I mean who else in this world besides LMP has been asked all over again to confirm that she REALLY had sex with her ex-HUSBAND) but when it comes to molestation case, all of sudden, he´s capable of sex - as most of the general public believes. You know, isn´t it weird? i've never thought he had his skin bleached - though, there are products that "even" one's skin tone. i've never believed the molestation charges - not in 93 and not now. personally, i do think the lmp marriage was a pr move due to the media's relentless portrayal of michael as a child molesting criminal but i also think they cared for each other; nothing is ever just cut and dry, black and white. | |
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If it is any help im Biracial, my Father is german and my mother is black and Namerican, My skin is white, but my hair is black and curly and eyes are brown.
i look like my mother though. My father tells me that German genes are one of the strongest around, primarily because of the Aryan blood. I believe Debbie is german as well, so i believe thats the case... I don't see the logic in them not being his kids. Unless while they where in the hospital, Debbie dumped his sperm down the toilet, and replaced it with an anglo. You won't be able to tell if the kids are his untill they are well over 13. i really don't see the point in havinga nother mans kids and raising them, posing them as your own... For that you just adopt children... as for the ring... Debbie is obviously a a heartless sow [Edited 3/4/05 12:16pm] | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: If it is any help im Biracial, my Father is german and my mother is black and Namerican, My skin is white, but my hair is black and curly and eyes are brown.
i look like my mother though. My father tells me that German genes are one of the strongest around, primarily because of the Aryan blood. I believe Debbie is german as well, so i believe thats the case... I don't see the logic in them not being his kids. Unless while they where in the hospital, Debbie dumped his sperm down the toilet, and replaced it with an anglo. You won't be able to tell if the kids are his untill they are well over 13. i really don't see the point in havinga nother mans kids and raising them, posing them as your own... For that you just adopt children... as for the ring... Debbie is obviously a a heartless sow [Edited 3/4/05 12:16pm] He could adopt children. but im sure he shopped around for the right sperm that would guarentee him blonde haired and blue eyed children. Debbie was already blonde so chances were great. He's always had a thing for the blonde ones since Mccauly Culkin | |
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i've never thought he had his skin bleached - though, there are products that "even" one's skin tone. i've never believed the molestation charges - not in 93 and not now. personally, i do think the lmp marriage was a pr move due to the media's relentless portrayal of michael as a child molesting criminal but i also think they cared for each other; nothing is ever just cut and dry, black and white.
thank you He's always had a thing for the blonde ones since Mccauly Culkin
I don't see the logic in them not being his kids. Unless while they where in the hospital, Debbie dumped his sperm down the toilet, and replaced it with an anglo.
I even don´t see a logic in that artifitial insemination story. I mean imagine if what Debbie said was true, than it must have been probably like this: MJ: I wanna kids and LMP won´t give me any!" Debbie: "I´ll give them to you!" MJ: "cool. but forget about sex. Don´t think I am going to ever touch you. You´re gonna be artificually inseminated!" Later on: MJ: "will you marry me!" Debbie: "Of course" MJ: "but that doesn´t mean I will sleep with you now. You´ll just give me few kids - all artifitial insemination." It´s just ridiculous! "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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i really don't see the point in havinga nother mans kids and raising them, posing them as your own...
And I also don´t understand why he wouldn´t admit that they were not his. He´s always been open about the fact that he´d like to adopt kids. He kept talking about it since his marriage to LMP. When they asked him about the kids, he said that of course they´d have their own, but they´d also like to adopt some. He never hid it. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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kisscamille said: I'd like to ask a question.
Some people say MJ married Debbie to have kids that looked white. I don't know how true this is, but what I want to know is.....MJ is/was a black man. Even if he has kids with a blonde, blue-eyed person such as Debbie, I can't see how his kids would ever come out looking like the two he had with her. Wouldn't these kids be darker if they really are MJ's?? I guess what I'm saying is, Paris and Prince can not be his kids. They are so fair skinned with very blonde hair, but he claims they are. I guess nothing is impossible, but I highly doubt the two kids he had with Debbie are even his. What do you guys think? what about mariah carey? Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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what about mariah carey?
We´ve discussed her already. BTW i went to her official site, where she has pictures of her as a little girl and she sure was no more dark than Paris. Paris actually even has a darker hair. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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I know ima get ripped for this...
But WHO CARES ABOUT HIS KIDS! Leave the man alone already... F*cking Media Savages! | |
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jayaredee said: i think it's horrible to put masks over his children when they're in the public. It's not fair to the kids.
Madonna doesn't do it to her kids and they're around the same age as MJ's kids. And no other celebrity parent to my knowledge does that to their kids. Why should he have 2 raise his kids like Madonna, or any other celebrity, 4 that matter raises their kids? How do u,one of the most recognizable artists in the world (I'm assuming)handle all the death threats and hate mail ur children recieve on a daily basis? The masks r off when they're not in public. They go 2 school (in their own way), and they have little friends their age. All of that can b put in serious jeopardy if one little photograph of their faces is splashed all over magazines and t.v. shows. He doesn't want his kids (in their early stages) subjected 2 all that chaos. About the blue eyes thing, Joseph (Michael's father) also has blue eyes.Isn't it pretty unfair 2 say that they don't look anything like their father when the majority of us haven't even seen them (facial features)! It doesn't really concern me whether he is their biological father or not , they have someone who's trying 2 do right by them, regardless. | |
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scorp84 said: jayaredee said: i think it's horrible to put masks over his children when they're in the public. It's not fair to the kids.
Madonna doesn't do it to her kids and they're around the same age as MJ's kids. And no other celebrity parent to my knowledge does that to their kids. Why should he have 2 raise his kids like Madonna, or any other celebrity, 4 that matter raises their kids? How do u,one of the most recognizable artists in the world (I'm assuming)handle all the death threats and hate mail ur children recieve on a daily basis? The masks r off when they're not in public. They go 2 school (in their own way), and they have little friends their age. All of that can b put in serious jeopardy if one little photograph of their faces is splashed all over magazines and t.v. shows. He doesn't want his kids (in their early stages) subjected 2 all that chaos. About the blue eyes thing, Joseph (Michael's father) also has blue eyes.Isn't it pretty unfair 2 say that they don't look anything like their father when the majority of us haven't even seen them (facial features)! It doesn't really concern me whether he is their biological father or not , they have someone who's trying 2 do right by them, regardless. Is Madonna not a big name? In most cases she's just as big as MJ in the fame game and the fact she doesn't do that to her kids gives me enough reason to believe that MJ shouldn't have to do that to his kids. it's wrong and cruel, and if you don't believe that, i'd be afraid to see how you raise kids. And this is the same man who dangles his kid from the balcony. Not a responsible parent. Sorry | |
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jayaredee said: scorp84 said: Why should he have 2 raise his kids like Madonna, or any other celebrity, 4 that matter raises their kids? How do u,one of the most recognizable artists in the world (I'm assuming)handle all the death threats and hate mail ur children recieve on a daily basis? The masks r off when they're not in public. They go 2 school (in their own way), and they have little friends their age. All of that can b put in serious jeopardy if one little photograph of their faces is splashed all over magazines and t.v. shows. He doesn't want his kids (in their early stages) subjected 2 all that chaos. About the blue eyes thing, Joseph (Michael's father) also has blue eyes.Isn't it pretty unfair 2 say that they don't look anything like their father when the majority of us haven't even seen them (facial features)! It doesn't really concern me whether he is their biological father or not , they have someone who's trying 2 do right by them, regardless. Is Madonna not a big name? In most cases she's just as big as MJ in the fame game and the fact she doesn't do that to her kids gives me enough reason to believe that MJ shouldn't have to do that to his kids. it's wrong and cruel, and if you don't believe that, i'd be afraid to see how you raise kids. And this is the same man who dangles his kid from the balcony. Not a responsible parent. Sorry thats true about madonna BUT people HATE mj...he gets threats on his life..i don't agree with what he does as far as his kids are concerned, but i do understand it. Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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Moonwalkbjrain said: jayaredee said: Is Madonna not a big name? In most cases she's just as big as MJ in the fame game and the fact she doesn't do that to her kids gives me enough reason to believe that MJ shouldn't have to do that to his kids. it's wrong and cruel, and if you don't believe that, i'd be afraid to see how you raise kids. And this is the same man who dangles his kid from the balcony. Not a responsible parent. Sorry thats true about madonna BUT people HATE mj...he gets threats on his life..i don't agree with what he does as far as his kids are concerned, but i do understand it. My guess is he doesn't wan't to put his kids through what he went through Being bothered by the press etc, or getting threats etc... I don't technically see it... But I do understand it... he wan'st them to be normal... unlike he is i guess | |
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