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Reply #30 posted 03/02/05 3:00pm

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Musically? Damn. I did read that Bowie said he wanted a JB vibe to it, and I totally hear it in "Hot" and I also hear it in "The Payback".


yah - from what i understand, they did a cover of 'foot stompin'' on tour a few times, then the riff kinda mutated into 'fame'. i think bowie and the band even performed 'foot stompin'' on TV - on dick cavett or dinah shore around the time of the 'diamond dogs' tour...

Damn. That's cool. Would love to have that on tape. I have great Hendrix, Sly footage on Dick Cavett. U think it sounds like Fame? I definately hear James.
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Reply #31 posted 03/02/05 3:03pm

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yah - from what i understand, they did a cover of 'foot stompin'' on tour a few times, then the riff kinda mutated into 'fame'. i think bowie and the band even performed 'foot stompin'' on TV - on dick cavett or dinah shore around the time of the 'diamond dogs' tour...

Damn. That's cool. Would love to have that on tape. I have great Hendrix, Sly footage on Dick Cavett. U think it sounds like Fame? I definately hear James.


yeah, i hear a definite JB influence in it, for sure. have you seen the 'best of bowie' DVD anthology of his videos? there's a live performance from the dick cavett show circa 1975 with the 'young americans' band, complete with luther on backing vocals.
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Reply #32 posted 03/02/05 3:10pm

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Damn. That's cool. Would love to have that on tape. I have great Hendrix, Sly footage on Dick Cavett. U think it sounds like Fame? I definately hear James.


yeah, i hear a definite JB influence in it, for sure. have you seen the 'best of bowie' DVD anthology of his videos? there's a live performance from the dick cavett show circa 1975 with the 'young americans' band, complete with luther on backing vocals.

I've seen Luther singing backup for David on something, but I can't remember what it was. It may have well been that. I know it was around that time period. Hey man, what do u think about David's Floor Show or his Saturday Night Live appearance doing "TVC15" with the toys dogs? That's one of the coolest performances ever on television.
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Reply #33 posted 03/02/05 3:13pm

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backup for David on something, but I can't remember what it was. It may have well been that. I know it was around that time period. Hey man, what do u think about David's Floor Show or his Saturday Night Live appearance doing "TVC15" with the toys dogs? That's one of the coolest performances ever on television.


i love that SNL appearance - his backup singers were joey arias and klaus nomi, who were really hot performance artists/drag queens in NYC at the time...klaus nomi released a few albums in the early '80s and left behind a bit of a cult following when he died. joey arias is still kickin', and usually shows up at wigstock or the 'night of 1,000 stevies' events in NYC. i thought it was SO cool when i recognized those two singing back-up for bowie on SNL. very campy, very new-wave, very fun.
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Reply #34 posted 03/02/05 3:18pm

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Anxiety said:

blackguitaristz said:

backup for David on something, but I can't remember what it was. It may have well been that. I know it was around that time period. Hey man, what do u think about David's Floor Show or his Saturday Night Live appearance doing "TVC15" with the toys dogs? That's one of the coolest performances ever on television.


i love that SNL appearance - his backup singers were joey arias and klaus nomi, who were really hot performance artists/drag queens in NYC at the time...klaus nomi released a few albums in the early '80s and left behind a bit of a cult following when he died. joey arias is still kickin', and usually shows up at wigstock or the 'night of 1,000 stevies' events in NYC. i thought it was SO cool when i recognized those two singing back-up for bowie on SNL. very campy, very new-wave, very fun.

Were u a "Bowie Kid"? U hip to them?
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Reply #35 posted 03/02/05 3:21pm

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fame isn't on my shortlist of favorites, but i do love hearing him do it live. it's got an amazing groove, and the fact that it had involvement from john lennon just makes it that much cooler.

I totally agree witcha. John Lennon got co-writing credit and well he should have. He was the one that came up the hook! I knew John was funky with shit like "I Am The Walrus" which is another one of my faves, but damn!



Yeah FUNKY JOHN!!! GREAT SONG!!

Ever heard the Duran Duran cover of this song (from 1981???) I like that one also!
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Reply #36 posted 03/02/05 3:26pm

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Lennon said:

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I totally agree witcha. John Lennon got co-writing credit and well he should have. He was the one that came up the hook! I knew John was funky with shit like "I Am The Walrus" which is another one of my faves, but damn!



Yeah FUNKY JOHN!!! GREAT SONG!!

Ever heard the Duran Duran cover of this song (from 1981???) I like that one also!

Yeah, I have that. Got it off of a MOJO cd of cats covering Bowie songs. It's cool.
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Reply #37 posted 03/02/05 3:35pm

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Were u a "Bowie Kid"? U hip to them?


lol kinda sorta. i grew up listening to the copies of 'aladdin sane' and 'diamond dogs' in my mom's vinyl collection - i didn't really take any special notice of bowie until 'let's dance' came out, though - and i didn't become a rabid fan until i stumbled across a beat up copy of 'stage' at my local library and it thoroughly rocked my world on first listen...
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Reply #38 posted 03/02/05 3:43pm

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Anxiety said:

blackguitaristz said:


Were u a "Bowie Kid"? U hip to them?


lol kinda sorta. i grew up listening to the copies of 'aladdin sane' and 'diamond dogs' in my mom's vinyl collection - i didn't really take any special notice of bowie until 'let's dance' came out, though - and i didn't become a rabid fan until i stumbled across a beat up copy of 'stage' at my local library and it thoroughly rocked my world on first listen...

Yeah. I got into Bowie really young. He is definately one of my favorite artists of all. He's in my top 5 and that's high considering I dig so much shit.
The Serious Moonlight Tour was the first time I had ever seen him live. Do u like on David Live, the Ziggy Stardust version?
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Reply #39 posted 03/02/05 4:12pm

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Yeah. I got into Bowie really young. He is definately one of my favorite artists of all. He's in my top 5 and that's high considering I dig so much shit.
The Serious Moonlight Tour was the first time I had ever seen him live. Do u like on David Live, the Ziggy Stardust version?


Lucky you! The first time I saw him live wasn't until the Bowie/NIN tour, right before "Outside" came out.

I can't really say a lot about how I feel re: David Live. I don't listen to that one a lot because, frankly, it depresses me. He just sounds so ragged and unhealthy on it. Don't get me wrong - there's a lot on it that's good. It just bums me out to listen to. Maybe the re-issue of it that's coming out will lead my ears in a different direction. shrug
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Reply #40 posted 03/02/05 4:26pm

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Love it, love it, #1 song in the US on the day I was born, love it, love it!
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Reply #41 posted 03/03/05 3:41am

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Anxiety, have I ever told u that "Fame" is my ALL TIME FAVORITE SONG BY ANYONE? EVER? Well, it is. The backward intro and the backward break, the bass WAAAY high up in the mix, Carlos Alomar's guitar riff, the speeded up, slowed down vocals at the end. It's just "in the pocket" funk. Period. Bowie's vocals are on target. The song is the shit. A bonafide crossover hit if there ever was one. Black AND white stations (r&b, rock) played the hell out of this. Bowie was the first ever white performer on Soul Train, and guess what song he performed? This bought Bowie his funk card and he's held on to it ever since, really. Who else here, people, likes this song?



actually,Elton John was the first White performer to appear on "Soul Train".He was on a 1974 episode singing "Benny and The Jets".Bowie appeared on a 1976 episode,where he performed "Fame" and "Golden Years".

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Reply #42 posted 03/03/05 4:59am

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Anxiety, have I ever told u that "Fame" is my ALL TIME FAVORITE SONG BY ANYONE? EVER? Well, it is. The backward intro and the backward break, the bass WAAAY high up in the mix, Carlos Alomar's guitar riff, the speeded up, slowed down vocals at the end. It's just "in the pocket" funk. Period. Bowie's vocals are on target. The song is the shit. A bonafide crossover hit if there ever was one. Black AND white stations (r&b, rock) played the hell out of this. Bowie was the first ever white performer on Soul Train, and guess what song he performed? This bought Bowie his funk card and he's held on to it ever since, really. Who else here, people, likes this song?



nod BG, I glad you brought this jam up. This was always one of my favorite Bowie jams b/c it had that Bootsy like bassline going and was funky as hell. Bowie along w/ Elton he defintely earned his funk pass deal for sure. fro headbang
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Reply #43 posted 03/03/05 5:52am

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Anxiety said:

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I think it's on RarestOneBowie also.


i wish i could remember where i remembered seeing the whole thing about bowie discussing 'fame' and the flares' song...i think it might have been on an MTV interview from waaaay back in '87, when he was promoting the 'glass spider tour'.


That was on a Rockumentary from 1990 with Kurt loder talking to Bowie about his entire career.
This interview was held because of the Sound & Vision Greatest Hits Tour, the show also featured bits from the Cher show and the Dinah Shore show (with Henry Winkler) and also the Dick Cavett Show where he performed Footstompin'.
I think it is on this rockumentary where Bowie talks about the james brown fame cover, he had heard the cover and said that he wanted to wait and see if it would become a hit before sueing James.
It never did and he never did.
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Reply #44 posted 03/03/05 6:20am

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I love this song.It's my favorite song by Bowie.That groove is addictive!


Did you ever hear the 1976 James Brown song "Hot"? It has the same exact music as "Fame"!
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Reply #45 posted 03/03/05 8:08am

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blackguitaristz said:

Anxiety, have I ever told u that "Fame" is my ALL TIME FAVORITE SONG BY ANYONE? EVER? Well, it is. The backward intro and the backward break, the bass WAAAY high up in the mix, Carlos Alomar's guitar riff, the speeded up, slowed down vocals at the end. It's just "in the pocket" funk. Period. Bowie's vocals are on target. The song is the shit. A bonafide crossover hit if there ever was one. Black AND white stations (r&b, rock) played the hell out of this. Bowie was the first ever white performer on Soul Train, and guess what song he performed? This bought Bowie his funk card and he's held on to it ever since, really. Who else here, people, likes this song?



actually,Elton John was the first White performer to appear on "Soul Train".He was on a 1974 episode singing "Benny and The Jets".Bowie appeared on a 1976 episode,where he performed "Fame" and "Golden Years".


Damn, you're right David. U know, when I wrote that, Elton popped into my head, but then I was like "Nah, David was first, then Elton". I should have known your ass would have known! Right on!
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Reply #46 posted 03/03/05 8:15am

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Hotlegs said:[quote]

blackguitaristz said:

Anxiety, have I ever told u that "Fame" is my ALL TIME FAVORITE SONG BY ANYONE? EVER? Well, it is. The backward intro and the backward break, the bass WAAAY high up in the mix, Carlos Alomar's guitar riff, the speeded up, slowed down vocals at the end. It's just "in the pocket" funk. Period. Bowie's vocals are on target. The song is the shit. A bonafide crossover hit if there ever was one. Black AND white stations (r&b, rock) played the hell out of this. Bowie was the first ever white performer on Soul Train, and guess what song he performed? This bought Bowie his funk card and he's held on to it ever since, really. Who else here, people, likes this song?



nod BG, I glad you brought this jam up. This was always one of my favorite Bowie jams b/c it had that Bootsy like bassline going and was funky as hell. Bowie along w/ Elton he defintely earned his funk pass deal for sure. fro headbang

Ms. Legs,... damn, baby. How u know it has that Bootsy touch on the bass? I feel like singing some David Cassidy to you! And I think u know the song too!
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Reply #47 posted 03/03/05 8:23am

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Anxiety said:



i wish i could remember where i remembered seeing the whole thing about bowie discussing 'fame' and the flares' song...i think it might have been on an MTV interview from waaaay back in '87, when he was promoting the 'glass spider tour'.


That was on a Rockumentary from 1990 with Kurt loder talking to Bowie about his entire career.
This interview was held because of the Sound & Vision Greatest Hits Tour, the show also featured bits from the Cher show and the Dinah Shore show (with Henry Winkler) and also the Dick Cavett Show where he performed Footstompin'.
I think it is on this rockumentary where Bowie talks about the james brown fame cover, he had heard the cover and said that he wanted to wait and see if it would become a hit before sueing James.
It never did and he never did.


oh, was that part of the VH-1 "legends" special, or am i thinking too far ahead?
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Reply #48 posted 03/03/05 10:42pm

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"Fame" and "Let's Dance" are my two favorite David Bowie songs.
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Reply #49 posted 03/04/05 12:13am

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He stole it from James Brown's Hot (I Need to be Loved, Loved, Loved) giggle



But seriously, I'm in 100% agreement with you. It's definitely one of the funkiest songs of all time and it's my absolute favorite Bowie song.

hmmm I thought it was the other way around.....
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Reply #50 posted 03/08/05 3:51pm

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I know right? I was like DAMN John, I ain't know you had funk like that! But then I listened to "Walrus" and well there it was... lol

U listened to Walrus cuz of the post?

nooooo I've known about "Walrus" for YEARS! I meant that after listening to "Fame" I went back and listened to Walrus and it made more sense that Lennon was funky lol
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Reply #51 posted 03/08/05 3:52pm

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He stole it from James Brown's Hot (I Need to be Loved, Loved, Loved) giggle



But seriously, I'm in 100% agreement with you. It's definitely one of the funkiest songs of all time and it's my absolute favorite Bowie song.

hmmm I thought it was the other way around.....


It was. That's why I put the giggle emoticon. James Brown stole the song from Bowie.
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Reply #52 posted 03/08/05 3:56pm

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Fame is the bomb but the Young Americans cd overall was a let down to me. I like the song young americans as well but the rest of the album is boring to me.
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Reply #53 posted 03/08/05 4:37pm

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hmmm I thought it was the other way around.....


It was. That's why I put the giggle emoticon. James Brown stole the song from Bowie.

Yeah....
Around that time,
the J.B. Express was
running out of fuel....
He did a tune call "Makin' Love" for the JB's,
which rip-off the whole "Skin Tight" groove
from The Ohio Players...
Then there's "(Its Not The Express)Its The JB's Monurail"...
The beginning groove came from The B.T. Express tune "Express"
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Reply #54 posted 03/08/05 4:40pm

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funkpill said:

psykosoul said:



It was. That's why I put the giggle emoticon. James Brown stole the song from Bowie.

Yeah....
Around that time,
the J.B. Express was
running out of fuel....
He did a tune call "Makin' Love" for the JB's,
which rip-off the whole "Skin Tight" groove
from The Ohio Players...
Then there's "(Its Not The Express)Its The JB's Monurail"...
The beginning groove came from The B.T. Express tune "Express"
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Jb tried to latch onto what was hip at the time instead of trying innovate all he did was duplicate. dig?..
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Reply #55 posted 03/08/05 4:42pm

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Hotlegs said:

blackguitaristz said:

Anxiety, have I ever told u that "Fame" is my ALL TIME FAVORITE SONG BY ANYONE? EVER? Well, it is. The backward intro and the backward break, the bass WAAAY high up in the mix, Carlos Alomar's guitar riff, the speeded up, slowed down vocals at the end. It's just "in the pocket" funk. Period. Bowie's vocals are on target. The song is the shit. A bonafide crossover hit if there ever was one. Black AND white stations (r&b, rock) played the hell out of this. Bowie was the first ever white performer on Soul Train, and guess what song he performed? This bought Bowie his funk card and he's held on to it ever since, really. Who else here, people, likes this song?



nod BG, I glad you brought this jam up. This was always one of my favorite Bowie jams b/c it had that Bootsy like bassline going and was funky as hell. Bowie along w/ Elton he defintely earned his funk pass deal for sure. fro headbang

Ms. Legs,... damn, baby. How u know it has that Bootsy touch on the bass? I feel like singing some David Cassidy to you! And I think u know the song too!

Nothing sexier than a funky woman....
headbang
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Reply #56 posted 03/09/05 7:22am

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nod BG, I glad you brought this jam up. This was always one of my favorite Bowie jams b/c it had that Bootsy like bassline going and was funky as hell. Bowie along w/ Elton he defintely earned his funk pass deal for sure. fro headbang

Ms. Legs,... damn, baby. How u know it has that Bootsy touch on the bass? I feel like singing some David Cassidy to you! And I think u know the song too!

Nothing sexier than a funky woman....
headbang


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Reply #57 posted 03/09/05 7:42am

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OHHH Fame.. great Song, beautiful album! the second of the "American Trilogy"



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Try to sing the riff of Musicology's guitar Over this song!! razz
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