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Thread started 02/27/05 7:34pm

Moonwalkbjrain

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Santana and Antonio Banderas @ the oscars!

who else was feelin that performance?
i never pictured banderas as a singer, but he wasn't bad...it was nice sounding..wish i knew what the hell he was sayin tho! lol
santana was as always, off the chain!
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Reply #1 posted 02/27/05 7:42pm

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Moonwalkbjrain said:

who else was feelin that performance?
i never pictured banderas as a singer, but he wasn't bad...it was nice sounding..wish i knew what the hell he was sayin tho! lol
santana was as always, off the chain!



my spanish is rusty, but i think he was saying sumthin along the lines that two dudes and a guitar work better than a big bedroom set and two warblers
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Reply #2 posted 02/27/05 7:50pm

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I think he sounded better getting rid of the fur ball in Shrek 2.
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Reply #3 posted 02/27/05 8:08pm

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meltwithu said:

Moonwalkbjrain said:

who else was feelin that performance?
i never pictured banderas as a singer, but he wasn't bad...it was nice sounding..wish i knew what the hell he was sayin tho! lol
santana was as always, off the chain!



my spanish is rusty, but i think he was saying sumthin along the lines that two dudes and a guitar work better than a big bedroom set and two warblers


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Reply #4 posted 02/27/05 9:45pm

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I thought it was cool smile I knew Antonio could sing from the Mambo Kings movie. I think he's a bit theatrical @ times but had a nice voice. Santana sounded great, I was SO expecting a shot of P in the audience after that one but no dice razz
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Reply #5 posted 02/27/05 9:49pm

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Moonwalkbjrain said:

who else was feelin that performance?
i never pictured banderas as a singer, but he wasn't bad...it was nice sounding..wish i knew what the hell he was sayin tho! lol
santana was as always, off the chain!


Sorry, the party I was at was like "what the hell was the melody of that song"? He's not a good singer, IMO. The guy who finally won sang it again, as in, this is how it actually sounds.
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Reply #6 posted 02/28/05 12:58am

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Like both Santana and Banderas. But if they HAD to perform why didn't they perform it like the original? The one that won!

So why is it that they HAD to perform this song anyway? Were the original performers too busy or something?

I'm glad the motorcycle song won. After I discovered that Damien Rice wasn't performing, that is.

They didn't nominate "Blowers Daughter" but they did nominate that Polar Express song. The one that sounds so much like the other Phantom song -"Music of the night". Like, after Barry Manilow had his way with it.

Anyway, I wasn't crazy about the Santana/Banderas performance. Do like the song however.
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Reply #7 posted 02/28/05 2:13am

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antouniou banderas is a PEST!
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Reply #8 posted 02/28/05 10:15am

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Banderas=ROX
Santana-ROX

bow Loved it!
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Reply #9 posted 02/28/05 10:32am

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Banderas=ROX
Santana-ROX

bow Loved it!


thumbs up! I loved it too. Antonio is cool and Santana is one of the greatest!
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Reply #10 posted 02/28/05 12:39pm

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I dug it three. That was a really cool performance.

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Reply #11 posted 02/28/05 12:59pm

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Carlos, one of my favorite guitarists, was, as always, very good and classy. His playing is always so... tasteful.
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Reply #12 posted 02/28/05 1:11pm

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blackguitaristz said:

Carlos, one of my favorite guitarists, was, as always, very good and classy. His playing is always so... tasteful.


Very well said! nod
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Reply #13 posted 02/28/05 1:14pm

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kisscamille said:

blackguitaristz said:

Carlos, one of my favorite guitarists, was, as always, very good and classy. His playing is always so... tasteful.


Very well said! nod

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Reply #14 posted 02/28/05 1:27pm

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Moonwalkbjrain said:

who else was feelin that performance?
i never pictured banderas as a singer, but he wasn't bad...it was nice sounding..wish i knew what the hell he was sayin tho! lol
santana was as always, off the chain!




i thought it was really fucking horrendous. and apparently so did the guy who wrote it, judging by the look on his face when they put him on camera in the audience after the performance.
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Reply #15 posted 02/28/05 2:59pm

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It seemed like a nice song, but I didn't like the way Antonio Banderas was singing it - he just sounded too melodramatic and crass. The way the songwriter sang as his acceptance speech sounded more fitting.
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Reply #16 posted 02/28/05 4:08pm

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I was pleasantly surprised by Antonio! I agree that it WAS a bit dramatic, but hey, he's an actor, whaddya want?

Carlos on the other hand..... I don't dig him that much to begin with but I liked it better when he was impersonating Miles Davis in the 70's rather than noodling behind singers like he's been doing lately. He needs to find another gig.
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Reply #17 posted 02/28/05 4:24pm

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Moonwalkbjrain said:

who else was feelin that performance?
i never pictured banderas as a singer, but he wasn't bad...it was nice sounding..wish i knew what the hell he was sayin tho! lol
santana was as always, off the chain!


OMG I couldn't understand a word of it but man I FELT it! it was such an awesome performance I thought and Antonio looked GOOOOOD mr.green
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Reply #18 posted 02/28/05 4:35pm

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i thought it was crappy as well....although Santana can play a mean guitar.....the Counting Crows was the best performance of the night.....and Josh Groban is frightening
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Reply #19 posted 02/28/05 4:56pm

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The writer, Jorge Drexler,wanted to perform his song. He is a singer after all.

But the Oscar organizers thought he was not a good bet since no-one knows him over there. (He has a certain prestige here in Spain,where he lives,but he's not a popular artist at all)

Anyway, it seems like they suggested Enrique Iglesias to sing it and Jorge said there was no way he'd ever allow them so Antonio's name was suggested and he approved it as they're friends but they had agreed if he won he'd sing some verses instead of thanking his grandmother barf.

Antonio is not a singer but he's had his share of hits in musicals (movies and Broadway). So it's natural his interpretation is dramatic to say the least.

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Reply #20 posted 02/28/05 7:17pm

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PANDURITO said:

The writer, Jorge Drexler,wanted to perform his song. He is a singer after all.

But the Oscar organizers thought he was not a good bet since no-one knows him over there. (He has a certain prestige here in Spain,where he lives,but he's not a popular artist at all)

Anyway, it seems like they suggested Enrique Iglesias to sing it and Jorge said there was no way he'd ever allow them so Antonio's name was suggested and he approved it as they're friends but they had agreed if he won he'd sing some verses instead of thanking his grandmother barf.

Antonio is not a singer but he's had his share of hits in musicals (movies and Broadway). So it's natural his interpretation is dramatic to say the least.

geek


When the guy started singing the song he won for (BTW, who cool was he that he bowed and kissed Prince's hand...) he was sending a clear message...it might be boring, but let the original people perform their songs. Did you know that Minnie Driver originally did that "Phantom" song...she must be thinking..."They hate me, they really hate me!". The Antonio/Santana performance struck me as unmemorbale. I just think part of the problem is there are a lack of new songs in the movies and the soundtrack just doesn't attract the audience or caliber of perfromer that it used to. I think that's the problem that needs to be fixed....not getting a starlet or other special guests to peform the songs!
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VinnyM27 said:

...I just think part of the problem is there are a lack of new songs in the movies and the soundtrack just doesn't attract the audience or caliber of perfromer that it used to. I think that's the problem that needs to be fixed....not getting a starlet or other special guests to peform the songs!

Are you saying that the score should be more about marketing and not about the integrity of the film? Some small films don't warrant the LARGE song. You also seem to be forgetting that the songs were larger because the films were. The smaller indie films don't have the budget to get the larger artist. It will take an artist that believes in a project enough to work for little and the possibility of nothing. How many of those are there?

I do agree with you on the performance. I still can't believe that so many of you see nothing wrong with it.

The Academy wanted to go big. They got the right guys for the job. (I admit, Antonio can almost do no wrong with me. Same for Santana) Unfortunately the song is a gentle subtle quiet song. Have you guys heard the original track?...it's everything but big. In fact, it's the antithesis of...

Won't get into other things wrong with the performance. Will say they looked good. Antonio always looks good. His voice isn't bad either. But he needs a song with changes that he can hear.

It's good enough to win but it's not good enough to perform. Go figure. Too bad the Academy doesn't see how they parody themselves. And too bad they still underestimate the public believing that a simple quiet song with heart (and an acoustic guitar) won't resonate.
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pkidwell said:

i thought it was crappy as well....although Santana can play a mean guitar.....the Counting Crows was the best performance of the night.....and Josh Groban is frightening


Counting Crows fucking sucked lol That song is horrible disbelief
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Reply #23 posted 03/01/05 6:58am

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CalhounSq said:

pkidwell said:

i thought it was crappy as well....although Santana can play a mean guitar.....the Counting Crows was the best performance of the night.....and Josh Groban is frightening


Counting Crows fucking sucked lol That song is horrible disbelief


I agree Calhoun. I thought he sang off-key through the entire song. The song itself is sickening. I never liked it from the first time I heard it.
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anon said:

VinnyM27 said:

...I just think part of the problem is there are a lack of new songs in the movies and the soundtrack just doesn't attract the audience or caliber of perfromer that it used to. I think that's the problem that needs to be fixed....not getting a starlet or other special guests to peform the songs!

Are you saying that the score should be more about marketing and not about the integrity of the film? Some small films don't warrant the LARGE song. You also seem to be forgetting that the songs were larger because the films were. The smaller indie films don't have the budget to get the larger artist. It will take an artist that believes in a project enough to work for little and the possibility of nothing. How many of those are there?

I do agree with you on the performance. I still can't believe that so many of you see nothing wrong with it.

The Academy wanted to go big. They got the right guys for the job. (I admit, Antonio can almost do no wrong with me. Same for Santana) Unfortunately the song is a gentle subtle quiet song. Have you guys heard the original track?...it's everything but big. In fact, it's the antithesis of...

Won't get into other things wrong with the performance. Will say they looked good. Antonio always looks good. His voice isn't bad either. But he needs a song with changes that he can hear.

It's good enough to win but it's not good enough to perform. Go figure. Too bad the Academy doesn't see how they parody themselves. And too bad they still underestimate the public believing that a simple quiet song with heart (and an acoustic guitar) won't resonate.



Personally, I think the era of the big song on a soundtrack is kind of dying since the major pop artist is also becoming an endangered species now of days and music is having more and more of a limited shelf life. It was kind of a blessing and a curse, don't you think? I mean, I can do without Celine Dion power ballads but at least the songs were notable hits. I don't think the movies shoul compromise themseleves but what about the era of good soundtracks with new songs by different artists. A soundtrack like Reality Bites couldn't exisit today because all of the artists would be absolutely unknown! Know of days, it seems like there is just nothing there when it comes to soundtracks and they sign lesser known artists only to save money because soundtracks aren't big sellers anymore. It's slightly dissapoiting. I just hope that this is the last time they try this experiment again. It's embrassing and shows just how old fashoined the AAs are!
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Reply #25 posted 03/01/05 10:53am

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PANDURITO said:

The writer, Jorge Drexler,wanted to perform his song. He is a singer after all.

But the Oscar organizers thought he was not a good bet since no-one knows him over there. (He has a certain prestige here in Spain,where he lives,but he's not a popular artist at all)

Anyway, it seems like they suggested Enrique Iglesias to sing it and Jorge said there was no way he'd ever allow them so Antonio's name was suggested and he approved it as they're friends but they had agreed if he won he'd sing some verses instead of thanking his grandmother barf.

Antonio is not a singer but he's had his share of hits in musicals (movies and Broadway). So it's natural his interpretation is dramatic to say the least.

geek


I thought Carlos and Antonio were GREAT. Actually I thought that they were the performance of the night. However, I think the organizers should have let Jorge sing for cryin' out loud. It wouldn't hurt us Americans to be exposed to other international artists. And for that matter, I think that Minnie Driver should have sung the song from Phantom of the Opera since apparently she sings the tracks for the movie. Beyonce did great job, but she had already performed two songs.
It makes me so sick that it all comes down to ratings, and the people who really put the work into a project aren't allowed to perform coz they aren't in the top 100 of the Billboard charts.

Oh by the way, Bandaras was nominated for a Tony for his performance in the musical Nine. He also played Che in the film version of Evita.
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VinnyM27 said:

anon said:


Are you saying that the score should be more about marketing and not about the integrity of the film? Some small films don't warrant the LARGE song. You also seem to be forgetting that the songs were larger because the films were. The smaller indie films don't have the budget to get the larger artist. It will take an artist that believes in a project enough to work for little and the possibility of nothing. How many of those are there?

I do agree with you on the performance. I still can't believe that so many of you see nothing wrong with it.

The Academy wanted to go big. They got the right guys for the job. (I admit, Antonio can almost do no wrong with me. Same for Santana) Unfortunately the song is a gentle subtle quiet song. Have you guys heard the original track?...it's everything but big. In fact, it's the antithesis of...

Won't get into other things wrong with the performance. Will say they looked good. Antonio always looks good. His voice isn't bad either. But he needs a song with changes that he can hear.

It's good enough to win but it's not good enough to perform. Go figure. Too bad the Academy doesn't see how they parody themselves. And too bad they still underestimate the public believing that a simple quiet song with heart (and an acoustic guitar) won't resonate.



Personally, I think the era of the big song on a soundtrack is kind of dying since the major pop artist is also becoming an endangered species now of days and music is having more and more of a limited shelf life. It was kind of a blessing and a curse, don't you think? I mean, I can do without Celine Dion power ballads but at least the songs were notable hits. I don't think the movies shoul compromise themseleves but what about the era of good soundtracks with new songs by different artists. A soundtrack like Reality Bites couldn't exisit today because all of the artists would be absolutely unknown! Know of days, it seems like there is just nothing there when it comes to soundtracks and they sign lesser known artists only to save money because soundtracks aren't big sellers anymore. It's slightly dissapoiting. I just hope that this is the last time they try this experiment again. It's embrassing and shows just how old fashoined the AAs are!

It's not really a thing of "Big" soundtrack. It should be about "fitting" soundtracks. It should be a marriage. The "Graduate" for example was a perfect marriage. It made the film better...the film made it better. But that's rare. Purple Rain is another example

VinnyM27 said:


I don't think the movies shoul compromise themseleves but what about the era of good soundtracks with new songs by different artists

Compromise in that they go for the artist and song because of the draw and not because the song is fitting.

Trying to get all that you're saying but it seems that it conflicts with itself....and you're saying so many things. Outside of this we are, in part, saying some of the same things....I think.

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I just hope that this is the last time they try this experiment again. It's embrassing and shows just how old fashoined the AAs are!"

Don't know that it was as much an experiment as a bad call. Rather a potentially good call...gone bad. I'm actually glad it turned out this way. It may create a dialogue...shine light on the Academy. I'm thinking next year more if not all of the original artists will perform.
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Reply #27 posted 03/01/05 1:47pm

fartman

banderas cant sing and cant act either.

whata lucky guy he is!
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Reply #28 posted 03/01/05 1:49pm

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Santana is so friggin cool with his shades and Che Guerra shirt cool
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Reply #29 posted 03/01/05 2:25pm

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Santana is so friggin cool with his shades and Che Guerra shirt cool



who the hell is che guerra?
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