blackguitaristz said:

That's the coolest Jimi quote ever.

Taureau said:

I know, huh?!

blackguitaristz said:

Yep. Also you're right with Osmium, that album's WICKED. Come in Out of the Rain is in fact the best track, by any artist, ever, and the live version of Red Hot Mama is how it shoulda been. Thanks for the heads up with Ruth Copelands album...never knew about that one!

See Jack, this is what I was talking about! Cats that know their Funkadelic!

jw1914 said:

That's right, player.

blackguitaristz said:

jw1914 said:

Ya feel me dog? Early Funkadelic is true Funkadelic!!!

jw1914 said:

Yep. Although I dig "Tales Of Kidd Funkadelic" and "Hardcore Jollies" a lot. A whole lot!

jacktheimprovident said:

Sorry that you took my words as a diss on Parliment. I nevered mentioned Parliment nor anyother group that George put out. "Cartoon" music I mentioned refered to the later years of Funkadelic when the music was not very well thought out. George relied heavily on gimmicks to sell Funkadelic music recordings and live performances [200 folks on stage]. Mind you George was not a musician but a awesome producer who had the blessing of having some incredible musicians at his disposal. In the later years George got "big headed" self centered and took musical expression away from the musicians that made Funkadelic Funkadelic. Early Funkadelic songs had some serious vocals (lead and background), it was only in the later years that Funkadelic songs became a joke when George started enjoying the sound of his own voice. It was then at this time that Funkadelic lost it's original sound due to the "ever rotating" roster of musicians in P-Funk camp. My advise to you "Jack" would be to go back and truly listento early Funkadelic then write back.

Speaking Of Eddie and Mike, what do y'all think of the two different approaches to "Maggot Brain"?

paligap said:

No one can play the brain like eddie.... dont get me wrong The Kid got chops... but its hazel all the way with me

funkpill said:

Agreed. All I can say to my fellow funkateers is free your minds and your ass will follow.

"Make My Funk The P-Funk Cause I Want My Funk Uncut"

TheRealFiness said:

Eddie's performance on "Super Stupid" does it for me....

funkpill said:

Now these are the words of a funkateer who truly feels his shit


As for the different Maggot Brains, the only Hampton version I have is the live off One Nation. For me that's not a fair comparison to the Hazel version...to me Hampton feels like he's rushing into it at the start (because he's playing live most likely), but when he lets rip half way through he uses less effects than Hazel so you can really feel the voicing more. Which is good. Overall though it'Maggot Brain ain't about whether you can hear distinct notes...when Hazel uses the totally bassed out fuzz, it adds so much more to his emotional rollercoaster. And that's ultimately why Hazel's version is better - his tempo changes throughout the piece, and he deviates from pentatonic. Who the hell doesn't dig the bit where it totally slows down and he starts tapping? The Purple Hazel doesn't just take you through anguish, he takes you through introspection, reflection, reminiscence, and shit. Hamptons live version omits that bit completely, which is like tearing out half of the emotional experience. Eddie's mum would, as if, turn in her grave.

And I trust everyone agrees on this.

I love Maggot Brain, it will always be my favourite album.


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Taureau said:

TheRealFiness said:

Eddie's performance on "Super Stupid" does it for me....
And Bernie Worrell was at his best back then...

What do ya think of Eddie Hazel's "Pray My Soul"/"Sacred to the Pain" on Bill Laswell's Funkcronimicon...oh, and have you all heard that slightly extended version of "Soul Mate" that's been floating around....

Speaking Of Eddie and Mike, what do y'all think of the two different approaches to "Maggot Brain"?

funkpill said:

I had heard Doug Winbush and Tackhead's rendition of "Super Stupid" and was forced to play "Super Stupid" live with my band "Phil-E-Phunk" way back in the mid 90's. Needless to say the pleasure came when we informed the audiance that that song was written by Funkadelic. Those white folks mouths were wide open, looking quite "super stupid" themselves, they could not believe that Funkadelic had songs that "raw and hard". And yes Blackguitarist, we brought it!!!

paligap said:

Good question. I have had this conversation with folks in the past. In no way, shape or form does Mike come close to Eddie's. And it wouldn't. Mike's thing was to embelish it and to put his flavor on it. Me, I've played Maggot Brain several times live in different band lineups. It's always been the same: I'm going to play it as true to form as what Eddie recorded, cuz THAT'S Maggot Brain to me. Mike can play. I never really dug his take on it, though. I know I'm biased as fuck, but I've never been into his vibe on this. I've seen Mike play this live numerous times. Hazel's is the superior. It's not like playing the Star Bangled Banner. That would not be wise to TRY to emulate Jimi's take on that. Even if u pull it off, cats are gonna stone u to death for doing it. Jimi OWNS The Star Spangled Banner. Period. When Stevie Ray Vaughn played that at some baseball game, he got booed. Even though Stevie, out of respect to Hendrix, tried to modify it by playing more low key, he still got booed.

paligap said:

Good question. I have had this conversation with folks in the past. In no way, shape or form does Mike come close to Eddie's. And it wouldn't. Mike's thing was to embelish it and to put his flavor on it. Me, I've played Maggot Brain several times live in different band lineups. It's always been the same: I'm going to play it as true to form as what Eddie recorded, cuz THAT'S Maggot Brain to me. Mike can play. I never really dug his take on it, though. I know I'm biased as fuck, but I've never been into his vibe on this. I've seen Mike play this live numerous times. Hazel's is the superior. It's not like playing the Star Bangled Banner. That would not be wise to TRY to emulate Jimi's take on that. Even if u pull it off, cats are gonna stone u to death for doing it. Jimi OWNS The Star Spangled Banner. Period. When Stevie Ray Vaughn played that at some baseball game, he got booed. Even though Stevie, out of respect to Hendrix, tried to modify it by playing more low key, he still got booed.

Those that went out and brought Funkadelic music since reading this thread come back and shout out? How 'bout you laurarichardson[thread starter]?