EvilWhiteMale said:

like i said before, if i were you i'd just burn those tracks onto a cd with the few tracks you did like from the other records that you didn't like. it would be too much of a pain in the ass for me to constantly hit the skip button. especially if you know you're not going to like the songs.

EvilWhiteMale said:

Never say never.

SassyBritches said:

Nora Jones and Josh Groban came in as new artists and there was a lot of hype around them. I don't think they'll last.

I have no idea how popular or how much play this album is gonna get, but it definitely won't be hitting the mainstream. Plus, I don't see her gaining any new fans with this one. The songs aren't catchy enough to get new fans.

The first time I started to have interest in her was when I saw the video for God. Then I became a major fan when I saw the video for Spark. I think those songs were much harder hitting and attention getting. The Beekeeper seems to be more of an album for fans who have already been around for a while.

SassyBritches said:

There's always the 'programme' button.

To be fair, it's a little too soon for me to comment on the quality of her new album as it's only been out a week, but it's lacking the passion of her earlier work, that I can say for definate. Some of it is very nice, I just don't think many of the tracks would make it on to a personal compilation.
Sweet The Sting, Sleeping With Butterflies, The Beekeeper and Hoochie Woman would probably squeeze through, tho'.
Once again, I'm really happy for her that she's in a better place mentally. However, I hope one day she returns with the angst that coloured her best work.
There's other things to get pissed about with the passing of time, surely!

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SassyBritches said:

I do have an MP3 disk with nothing but Tori on it, so I'll just add to that.

Cloudbuster said:

This is one case where I definitely say NEVER.

EvilWhiteMale said:

EWM invites friends over for cheese and wine?

minneapolisgenius said:

I haven't yet, but I may if I keep listening to this album. I figure the music would be suitable.

EvilWhiteMale said:

Tickets for her San Francisco show in April sold out in one minute!!!

heartbeatocean said:

The same thing happened here in NYC. I missed it by seconds.

Hopefully they'll add a second show like they sometimes do.

EvilWhiteMale said:

But she's playing in LA the next night.

heartbeatocean said:

I guess she needs to play bigger venus.

EvilWhiteMale said:

ugh...don't say it! theatres are where she belongs. more than 3000 peeps or so and the intimacy is gone. if this wasn't just a small promo tour i'd think she would add more dates but its not really the full tour but rather just a small solo outing. when she tours with the band it will be larger venues (probably amphitheatres and large theatres).

when she toured for pele back in 96 (or was it 95?) she played multiple dates in most cities and some cities got more than one show per night so she could still do small venues but give more people a chance to see her. in philadelphia she performed 4 shows in three nights at the tower theatre. that remains to be one of the best performances of hers i've ever seen.

EvilWhiteMale said:

grab a bottle of a nice medium red (like a cote du rhone or young chateunof du pape) and pair it with some taleggio (a wonderful, creamy italian stracchino cheese), maybe a port derby, some crustini topped with chevre and avocado...c'mon, let's make it happen!

SassyBritches said:

Sounds nice, but you're nearly speaking a foreign language here.

GangstaFam said:

nah...everybody loves good food!

SassyBritches said:

Yes, this is only the first U.S. leg featuring just Tori on the piano. When the European leg of the tour is over, she'll come back to the states for a full tour with a full band in bigger venues.

I did notice that there is an extra day off between the NY and Philadelphia dates so another NY show could still be added.

SassyBritches said:

Yes, that's true. But you're bordering on Tori-speak.

sextonseven said:

I have a good feeling that will happen. It was probably planned that way.

Even if I miss this tour, no big loss. I like when she's with the band.

EvilWhiteMale said:

Have you ever seen her solo?

GangstaFam said:

I've seen her solo during the first leg of the Under The Pink tour. It was strange becuase she used backing tracks for "God" and "Cornflake Girl".

GangstaFam said:

Yeah, on the Strange Little Girls tour.

I liked it, but I wasn't crazy about it.

GangstaFam said:

how so?

SassyBritches said:

Well, the intimacy is already gone for me because I can't get a ticket.

heartbeatocean said:

Exactly.

Sometimes a seat in the far back is better than no seat at all.

Original Sin? No...I don't think so. Original Sin.....su....a...li....teee.....

yeah, after about a month and a half of listening.. my first impression was better than it is now..

Sdldawn said:

this is the test i'm waiting for. as of now, for me, this new one is on par with pele. i admit, though, this may be due to the whole newness of it all. by the summer i will have a much better feel for the record; i'll have deconstructed the record by then and acually have tried to get inside all of the songs. as of now i've listened to the the whole record several dozen times but, other than a few tracks, i haven't really tried to figure the songs out. part of why i love pele so much is because even (almost) ten years later i'm still trying to figure some of those tracks out, lol. as far as early impressions go, though, i'm loving the way she has incorporated betrayal into so many different aspects of life. its a very smart record and it seems pretty sincere and honest.

SassyBritches said:

I'll tell u this.. it sometimes takes over a year for me.. maybe two or three to wrap around and apreciate an album. Take Ben Folds- Rock'n The Suburbs,, I first bought it, i dug it and got tired of it.. wasnt too impressed with it.. now it is by no doubt in my mind one of my favorite pop albums of all time.