Dancing the dream book


Why do ppl think that by meeting someone you actually GET TO KNOW THEM! I´ve been suprised by MANY ppl how they turned out after few years of me knowing them. People can pretend even in face-to-face conversation, not just on TV.


Of course. They will show you only stuff that will make your heads shake. Stuff that wouldn´t, is NO NEWS for them.

Luv4oneanotha said:

Whatever you say

I'll always feel that man is a fucked up individual, and that his childish antics are not fake.
I'll like his music, but not the man. And sorry to say, i find the tabloids more believable than him any day of the week. A man who has claimed to have 2 surgeries (on his nose) when he looks like a whole seperate individual, is not an honest person.

It's no use trying to be MJ's ruputation defense officer around me. I don't give in. I've tried to believe him, but he keeps making an ass of himself. And this latest trial took the cake. He's insane and dangerous.

Say what you want about me. Misinformed, immature, stupid, whatnot. I don't give in.

jayaredee said:

Your not immature, your not stupid, your very intelligetn, just misguided
thats all

and you also seem very hurt about this, u must of really loved the man to feel so passionate

By the way, anybody who's saying MJ got Debbie pregnant before he and Lisa Marie divorced couldn't be more inaccurate. MJ and Lisa divorced January 1996 (after officially separating December 1995). Prince Michael Jackson I was born February 1997.

How the hell can a woman be pregnant 13 months?

She had a miscarriage before Prince, don´t know at which month of pregnancy though. Did you know that?

dag said:

.... no.

Crap, sorry about that.

ThreadCula said:

"Are You Threatening Me?"

She did say that herself.

The Debbie Incident was one of the mainreasons for the Lisa marie break-up

Which asks a serious question...

Maybe Good ole MJ has shared some of his ways with women with good ole Papaa Joe...


lmfao

i love this damn picture

The only women that chase after MJ now are women who need money and offer to have his child or complete head cases

I really find it hard believing that Michael Jackson was ever a womanizer. You guys will say that it's just the image that the press has invented for him, but I think it goes deeper than that. Watch a video, look at him perform, listen to his lyrics for God's sake. He really comes off as a young child still afraid of women. I think that it's much more believable that these women were paid to say that Mike was a ladies' man. For fuck's sake, I believe George Michael or Michael Stipe singing to a woman over Michael Jackson.

Axchi696 said:

Believe it or not...
Its Just an Image!

Ever since MJ went solo, that Squeaky clean image... Child Like lifestyle
was important for selling records, and it did help him sell records...
People weren't buying Michael Jackson THE MAN!
They where buying Little Michael Jackson from the Jackson 5
The way he makes us percieve him is as innocent as a child.
And it worked for him until the 93 allegations
Cause his innocent lifestyle was given a disturbing shadow

Buts its just an image, It's like Prince's image in the 80's majority of everyone thought he was gay, (and still think he's gay) because he wore leather and lace, dressed in stockings...
It was an image he wanted us to percieve
But hey you really think he dressed in lace in his private life?
or in assless chaps?

Its an Image! lol

Jackson is more of a man, than he wants us to believe, than he wants himself to believe...
Its obvious he does like women...
its just really hard to percieve that with his image, even worst when he's being railroaded with molestation accusations

But thats not the medias fault...
Thats his own fault!

I remember after the 30th anniv back in 01,
Shaggy, who performed their said that his song "It Wasn't Me" a song about cheating on girls, was one of michael favorite song specifically cause he related to the experience... Which gave Shaggy the suspician that On Stage Mike and OFf Stage mike where too completely different people

MJ a Womanizer?
possibly...

After all, no matter how much he changes his face
He is the son of good ole Joe Jackson

Can Ya Dig it?

Luv4oneanotha said:

Sorry, but nope, I can't.

Honestly, MJ has never been able to convincingly exert his masculinity. I think that he's tried throughout the years, but it comes off as phony. The crotch grab, the beginning of the You Rock My World video, the song Break of Dawn.. it all comes across as forced.

I think it's just MJ fans that want to believe certain things about the dude, and they will take accept any sign that Mike is a "normal" guy that they're given.

He's done too many of those "victim of women" songs for me not to question him. I'm not saying he's gay; I don't think he's a sexual person at all.

I don't think that if he were in the right frame of mind, he'd want the Peter Pan-like image that he's gotten. I don't think he's done it willingly, either. I think it's honestly who he is.

Luv4oneanotha said:

Besides, the Prince thing is a different issue. Whether or not people thought (or still think) that he was gay, no one ever questioned whether he had developed a normal adult sexuality. There's a big difference between dressing feminine and being visibly uncomfortable in a woman's presence. Prince knowingly flaunted taboo subjects in people's faces; Madonna did the same thing. She toyed with lesbian imagery, and people may have questioned her sexuality, but they never questioned that she was a sexually developed person. See the difference?

Axchi696 said:

Well because of the molestation allegations he has to Butch up thats why it seems forced that he does so
The 93 allegations triggered alot of new things...
The rushed marriage between him and lisa marie
him sowing a few 5'oclock shadow pictures...

after that it seems he had to make a complete 180 change in terms of his image
Ever since then his image consultants want him to seem well normal
so it is forced!

The ass smacking...
the female love songs c'mon now,

Invincible basically was a forced album because only 2 songs he wrote and produced, thus it wasn't an MJ album in my opinion.

I mean its rediculous to think the man who wrote we are the world, and heal the world is a womanizer...

But before 93 it would of been rediculous that the same fellow was a Child Molester

See it can go eitherway...

Its just an image...

I mean we all wan't MJ to Butch up, but its just not his style...
He was never a bump and grind RnB crooner,
and it seems silly that he tries to be sometimes...

But it will always be just an image, we don't know what he's capable
Whether thats a womanizer or a pedophile...
We don't know the real michael jackson

Luv4oneanotha said:

No, it's way more than that. Janet Jackson sang "Let's Wait Awhile" back in 1986, but it wasn't an impossible possiblity that she would eventually blossom into a mature woman. She also has the world conscious songs in her catalog, but even before the janet. album, I wouldn't have doubted that she was a sexual person.

Sting and Bono both sing world conscious songs, and despite the fact that they're both committed family men, it's not unforseeable that they could be womanizers, also. The implications run far deeper than a few songs or videos.

Believe me, if MJ was really running around with lots of women, the papers would get wind of it. It would've been huge news back in the 80's and early 90's, and I'm sure it still would sell some tabloids today.

I just find it way to suspicious that the first time we ever see MJ in a relationship with a woman is after the child abuse scandal, and that the only other times we ever hear about him with another woman, it's some freaked out fan that everyone suspects was paid off by his camp, anyway.

That's why people don't find it difficult to believe the molestation thing. Even if it is an act (which I don't think it is), Michael's persona is not that of a sexually mature male. He acts like an eleven year old boy, he hangs out with eleven year old boys, and his behavior is often as immature and irresponsible as an eleven year old's would be. It's not too far of a leap to think that he also might be into the sexual activities that many eleven year old boys do with each other. Notice how the alligations aren't that they had intercourse, that would be too adult.

Besides, if it were all just an image, then why did he build and seclude himself in a home and mammoth amusement park called "Neverland"?

Axchi696 said:

I agree with you...

I remember in 1987, the way you make me feel video... Mike tries to convince us that he can be a real macho man seducing a shy woman....

But in reality it was her who tried to seduce him... the shy guy...

Axchi696 said:

The allegations arent intercoursebecause intercourse can be easily proven with forensic evidence!
Fondeling and oral sex is fair game!, it can't be proven

As for the other things i don't know,
Michael Jackson is a private man, Most of his dealings are outside in europe and other coutries,
their is a multitude of explanations about his behavior with women,
that arent yours or mine, Where Just speculatating

Perhaps he is A-sexual, I don't know,
But i tell you this, Jackson was seeing Lisa Marie during his courtship with Brooke Shields back in 92, their was no relationship because i guess he doesn't like to be tied down. he only rushed the relationship with LM because of the 93 thing anyone can see that.
I know he just has a Multitude of Friendships with several different women.
and its platonic, he's a celeb why wouldn't he.
maybe he is sleeping with other woman and just makes them sign Confidentiality Agreements so they can't go blabbin too the enquirer
I dunno.. im just shootin the breeze

I know from my observations he's extremely partial to caucasion females
I Remember two years ago before the allegations arose, he asked out Nicole Kidman to the MTV music awards, Nicole declined because she was in a relationship at the time. But it always struck me as odd...
i'll tell ya one thing whether your michael jackson or not
If your an Accused Child Molester, your gonna have a helluva Time getting dates!

All in all i understand what your saying, and i hope your open minded enough to understand what im saying
This is Michael Jackson, a man who's been famous literally his whole life.
His actions around anybody aren't going to be normal.
Maybe, I certainly don't believe anything he tries to make himself out to be.
cause thats not him.
Im not even sure he knows who he is.
But i don't think the reason he's social or doesn't feel comfortable around females, doesn't make him a womanizer
Im not very social with women either but i love them and have had cheating impulses hehe ( and to all of yall out there i do love women )

I honestly can't even speak on this anymore,
Cause i just don't know him...
What can i say

I think there were some things in tabloids in the 80´s - Sheryl, Tatiana and stuff. Well nowadays it won´t make news. It´s not that long ago (2 - 3 months ago), he all of sudden visited a mall in Houston - I think - with this sex-bomb who identified herself as Monique and interestingly enough, I haven´t found ONE single magazine (over here) that would even write about that. while, he can say some stupid sentence about boys and it´s headlines over here. Media do ignore the women around him nowadays.


As for the Chandlers scandal, it is now coming out that he MIGHT have had a sexual relationship with that family, only another member, not the boy - but the boys mother!!!!!
I think there´s much greater chance that he´s womanizer than pedophile BTW.

His trying to be man in the public may see forced, cause he simply is not used to show this side to the public, BUT just watch any of the behind the scenes (I would recommend his NY signing he did after releasing Invincible and watch closely his reactions towards his famale fans)

As for LMP - I don´t think that there´s posibility of business involved! I mean she´s the biggest heiress of rock´n´roll!!! WHY would SHE care to support a¨n alleged pedophile for money?