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BlaqueKnight said: How many times must I tell you cynics...HIP-HOP AIN'T GOING NOWHERE.
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vainandy said:[quote] The only music suitable for the dancefloor nowadays is house music and now that techno has practically taken it over, it's all starting to sound repetitive.
papi, you need to come to sf and go to the endup with me..David Harness is holding down the fort on House!!  Space for sale... | |
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Hip-hop will never die!  But I don't believe this current batch of hip-hop will survive much longer. If you look at where hip-hop is today compared to when it first came onto the musci scene, it is exactly where rock 'n roll was in the late 70's. Just like how rock 'n roll was bloated and tired during the mid to late 1970's, mainstream hip-hop is exactly the same way.
Remember that at first, rock 'n roll was looked as a cheap fad during Elvis' heyday, and most people who didn't accuse it of being the devil's music thought that it was just fun music that would run its course. Likewise, early hip-hop was the same way. The Sugar Hill Gang could be called the Bill Haley of hip-hop, and Grandmaster Flash was its Elvis or Buddy Holly. Likewise, rock 'n roll had not begun to taken seriously by the mainstream until the Beatles arrived in America. Then all of a sudden, the mainstream was taken back and wondered "Who are these guys?" When Run-DMC broke through onto the pop charts, the mainstream media also took notice and realized that hip-hop was not going away soon. Just as it was not long after the Beatles conquered the mainstream music biz that rock 'n roll entered one if its most creative and diverse periods (Rolling Stones, The Who, Jimi Hendrix, The Doors, Janis Joplin, Jefferson Airplane, CSNY, The Yardbirds/Eric Clapton/Led Zeppelin, David Bowie), hip-hop also entered its most creative period after Run-DMC went platinum. This led to an explosion of diverse hip-hop artistry (Beastie Boys, Public Enemy, N.W.A., De La Soul, KRS One and B.D.P., Queen Latifah, 2Pac, Biggie Smalls, Wu-Tang Clan). Both rock 'n roll and hip-hop entered a golden age during these periods, but the strains and stresses would take its toll on the artists of those times. As a result, many of these brilliant artists would die prematurely (Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, 2Pac, Biggie Smalls), and harsh reality would cause both forms of music to retract inward. The mid-70s became a low point for mainstream rock 'n roll in a lot of respects, because much of the music became about partying and having fun and lots of sex and drugs, and musically, it became the extended guitar and drum solos. On tour, it was all about elaborate stage sets and pyrotechnics. In addition, corporate America got involved and started buying out record companies left and right. In addition, Southern-based rock 'n roll became huge during this period (Lynard Skynard, Allman Brothers, Elvin Bishop). Likewise, after the deaths of 2Pac and Biggie Smalls, hip-hop was all about excess (P Diddy), sex (all the booty-shaking raps), or bling-bling. Not coincidentally, Southern-based hip-hop and R&B is huge on the charts (crunk). Right now, hip-hop is desperately awaiting its punk-rock and new wave moment. Just as punk eventually transformed rock 'n roll during the late 70's and early 80's, hip-hop is waiting for a similar transformation that will send it back to its roots. | |
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[quote] sosgemini said: vainandy said: The only music suitable for the dancefloor nowadays is house music and now that techno has practically taken it over, it's all starting to sound repetitive.
papi, you need to come to sf and go to the endup with me..David Harness is holding down the fort on House!!  I love some good house. I've always heard that San Francisco was a hell of partying city!Andy is a four letter word. | |
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728huey said: Hip-hop will never die!
But I don't believe this current batch of hip-hop will survive much longer. If you look at where hip-hop is today compared to when it first came onto the musci scene, it is exactly where rock 'n roll was in the late 70's. Just like how rock 'n roll was bloated and tired during the mid to late 1970's, mainstream hip-hop is exactly the same way.
Remember that at first, rock 'n roll was looked as a cheap fad during Elvis' heyday, and most people who didn't accuse it of being the devil's music thought that it was just fun music that would run its course. Likewise, early hip-hop was the same way. The Sugar Hill Gang could be called the Bill Haley of hip-hop, and Grandmaster Flash was its Elvis or Buddy Holly. Likewise, rock 'n roll had not begun to taken seriously by the mainstream until the Beatles arrived in America. Then all of a sudden, the mainstream was taken back and wondered "Who are these guys?" When Run-DMC broke through onto the pop charts, the mainstream media also took notice and realized that hip-hop was not going away soon. Just as it was not long after the Beatles conquered the mainstream music biz that rock 'n roll entered one if its most creative and diverse periods (Rolling Stones, The Who, Jimi Hendrix, The Doors, Janis Joplin, Jefferson Airplane, CSNY, The Yardbirds/Eric Clapton/Led Zeppelin, David Bowie), hip-hop also entered its most creative period after Run-DMC went platinum. This led to an explosion of diverse hip-hop artistry (Beastie Boys, Public Enemy, N.W.A., De La Soul, KRS One and B.D.P., Queen Latifah, 2Pac, Biggie Smalls, Wu-Tang Clan). Both rock 'n roll and hip-hop entered a golden age during these periods, but the strains and stresses would take its toll on the artists of those times. As a result, many of these brilliant artists would die prematurely (Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, 2Pac, Biggie Smalls), and harsh reality would cause both forms of music to retract inward. The mid-70s became a low point for mainstream rock 'n roll in a lot of respects, because much of the music became about partying and having fun and lots of sex and drugs, and musically, it became the extended guitar and drum solos. On tour, it was all about elaborate stage sets and pyrotechnics. In addition, corporate America got involved and started buying out record companies left and right. In addition, Southern-based rock 'n roll became huge during this period (Lynard Skynard, Allman Brothers, Elvin Bishop). Likewise, after the deaths of 2Pac and Biggie Smalls, hip-hop was all about excess (P Diddy), sex (all the booty-shaking raps), or bling-bling. Not coincidentally, Southern-based hip-hop and R&B is huge on the charts (crunk). Right now, hip-hop is desperately awaiting its punk-rock and new wave moment. Just as punk eventually transformed rock 'n roll during the late 70's and early 80's, hip-hop is waiting for a similar transformation that will send it back to its roots. Great post there. I for one am looking forward to that "punk and new wave" movement to hit hip-hop cause it's in a VERY bad place right now. That's my big prayer for hip-hop in 05. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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728huey said: Hip-hop will never die!
But I don't believe this current batch of hip-hop will survive much longer. If you look at where hip-hop is today compared to when it first came onto the musci scene, it is exactly where rock 'n roll was in the late 70's. Just like how rock 'n roll was bloated and tired during the mid to late 1970's, mainstream hip-hop is exactly the same way.
Remember that at first, rock 'n roll was looked as a cheap fad during Elvis' heyday, and most people who didn't accuse it of being the devil's music thought that it was just fun music that would run its course. Likewise, early hip-hop was the same way. The Sugar Hill Gang could be called the Bill Haley of hip-hop, and Grandmaster Flash was its Elvis or Buddy Holly. Likewise, rock 'n roll had not begun to taken seriously by the mainstream until the Beatles arrived in America. Then all of a sudden, the mainstream was taken back and wondered "Who are these guys?" When Run-DMC broke through onto the pop charts, the mainstream media also took notice and realized that hip-hop was not going away soon. Just as it was not long after the Beatles conquered the mainstream music biz that rock 'n roll entered one if its most creative and diverse periods (Rolling Stones, The Who, Jimi Hendrix, The Doors, Janis Joplin, Jefferson Airplane, CSNY, The Yardbirds/Eric Clapton/Led Zeppelin, David Bowie), hip-hop also entered its most creative period after Run-DMC went platinum. This led to an explosion of diverse hip-hop artistry (Beastie Boys, Public Enemy, N.W.A., De La Soul, KRS One and B.D.P., Queen Latifah, 2Pac, Biggie Smalls, Wu-Tang Clan). Both rock 'n roll and hip-hop entered a golden age during these periods, but the strains and stresses would take its toll on the artists of those times. As a result, many of these brilliant artists would die prematurely (Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, 2Pac, Biggie Smalls), and harsh reality would cause both forms of music to retract inward. The mid-70s became a low point for mainstream rock 'n roll in a lot of respects, because much of the music became about partying and having fun and lots of sex and drugs, and musically, it became the extended guitar and drum solos. On tour, it was all about elaborate stage sets and pyrotechnics. In addition, corporate America got involved and started buying out record companies left and right. In addition, Southern-based rock 'n roll became huge during this period (Lynard Skynard, Allman Brothers, Elvin Bishop). Likewise, after the deaths of 2Pac and Biggie Smalls, hip-hop was all about excess (P Diddy), sex (all the booty-shaking raps), or bling-bling. Not coincidentally, Southern-based hip-hop and R&B is huge on the charts (crunk). Right now, hip-hop is desperately awaiting its punk-rock and new wave moment. Just as punk eventually transformed rock 'n roll during the late 70's and early 80's, hip-hop is waiting for a similar transformation that will send it back to its roots. I love it when people save me the time and energy of a post. Nice analysis there. Hip Hop and Rock have very similar histories and are reacted to in many similar ways by "parental types", sans going into the reality of the pioneers of rock and roll. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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I can see why some say HipHop is going downhill, but it isn't in the sense that more than half of the top songs on the billboards are hiphop, and other genres takings bits and pieces of it in some other ways... [Edited 2/19/05 17:35pm] | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: i don't see how you can tell the true status of hip-hop from a mere voting show on emptee-vee.
like i said in the post its just a small sign of it but i mean when every rap song was getting 5 or 6% of the vote and even 0% and a rock song won on all 7 challenges it makes u think Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3 | |
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estelle1981: Thanks, and I also agree with your post.
Blaque: Respect as always. Cinister: As a true hip-hop head I value your opinion. Backinaday, it used to be that MTV, and yes, BET, were the outlets for videos by true hip-hop artists. Now hip-hop has caught up w/pop and the vid channels only air the videos by established artists or artists with the thug/bling thing goin' on. It's astounding how horrible the new hip-hop stars can be as lyricists sometimes. 728Huey: Great analysis. The dynamics of hip-hop will make it very difficult for hip-hop to have its "punk" or even "grunge" moment. Cats like MF Doom and others have been trying very hard to get noticed, to no avail. I think the adults are going to have to keep puttin' it down and keep the art form alive until the public kills the hip-pop monster they created. vain and ehuffs: Agreed. Dance, or electronica, or ambient, etc., is expanding its boundaries greatly. In many ways, it lives up to the title "nu jazz." Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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728huey said: Hip-hop will never die!
But I don't believe this current batch of hip-hop will survive much longer. If you look at where hip-hop is today compared to when it first came onto the musci scene, it is exactly where rock 'n roll was in the late 70's. Just like how rock 'n roll was bloated and tired during the mid to late 1970's, mainstream hip-hop is exactly the same way.
Remember that at first, rock 'n roll was looked as a cheap fad during Elvis' heyday, and most people who didn't accuse it of being the devil's music thought that it was just fun music that would run its course. Likewise, early hip-hop was the same way. The Sugar Hill Gang could be called the Bill Haley of hip-hop, and Grandmaster Flash was its Elvis or Buddy Holly. Likewise, rock 'n roll had not begun to taken seriously by the mainstream until the Beatles arrived in America. Then all of a sudden, the mainstream was taken back and wondered "Who are these guys?" When Run-DMC broke through onto the pop charts, the mainstream media also took notice and realized that hip-hop was not going away soon. Just as it was not long after the Beatles conquered the mainstream music biz that rock 'n roll entered one if its most creative and diverse periods (Rolling Stones, The Who, Jimi Hendrix, The Doors, Janis Joplin, Jefferson Airplane, CSNY, The Yardbirds/Eric Clapton/Led Zeppelin, David Bowie), hip-hop also entered its most creative period after Run-DMC went platinum. This led to an explosion of diverse hip-hop artistry (Beastie Boys, Public Enemy, N.W.A., De La Soul, KRS One and B.D.P., Queen Latifah, 2Pac, Biggie Smalls, Wu-Tang Clan). Both rock 'n roll and hip-hop entered a golden age during these periods, but the strains and stresses would take its toll on the artists of those times. As a result, many of these brilliant artists would die prematurely (Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, 2Pac, Biggie Smalls), and harsh reality would cause both forms of music to retract inward. The mid-70s became a low point for mainstream rock 'n roll in a lot of respects, because much of the music became about partying and having fun and lots of sex and drugs, and musically, it became the extended guitar and drum solos. On tour, it was all about elaborate stage sets and pyrotechnics. In addition, corporate America got involved and started buying out record companies left and right. In addition, Southern-based rock 'n roll became huge during this period (Lynard Skynard, Allman Brothers, Elvin Bishop). Likewise, after the deaths of 2Pac and Biggie Smalls, hip-hop was all about excess (P Diddy), sex (all the booty-shaking raps), or bling-bling. Not coincidentally, Southern-based hip-hop and R&B is huge on the charts (crunk). Right now, hip-hop is desperately awaiting its punk-rock and new wave moment. Just as punk eventually transformed rock 'n roll during the late 70's and early 80's, hip-hop is waiting for a similar transformation that will send it back to its roots. Awesome post. 
Can't wait for that punk/new wave movement. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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BlaqueKnight said: How many times must I tell you cynics...HIP-HOP AIN'T GOING NOWHERE. Why do you oldheadz (I'm an oldhead too technically, but that's beside the point) hold onto the ridiculous notion that hip hop is a passing fancy? Its been around for 30 years now. 30 years!!!!! No "fad" lasts that long. Hip hop is an official genre. Its CHANGING. It always changes. The commercial appeal of hipp hop may be dying, and if you ask me that's a good thing. The less fascinated the pop crowd is with pop-hop, the better the chance for real hip hop to slip in. I'm sick of commercialized hip-hop.
All genres have their heyday, then slack off. Hip-hop is no different. I am with BlaqueKnight on this. Hip-hop will be better served when the pop crowd loses its fascination. Hip-hop may be changing but its not going anywhere. When it first started everyone said it would be gone faster than disco and its still here - bigger than ever. Now its in most commercials, movies, tv programs, etc. MTV2 is not the tool we should gauge Hip-hop by - for that matter neither is MTV, BET, VH1 and any other TV station or show. It started in the streets and should be judged by the streets. | |
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Ok every genre needs its Nirvana to come along and put it back in the right direction. I thought this would happen in 1998/9 when underground artist like mos def q-tip, common, the roots, were getting props and winning grammies. the last great year in hip hop was 1994. "Thinking like the Keys on Prince's piano, we'll be just fine" | |
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Soulchild82 said: Ok every genre needs its Nirvana to come along and put it back in the right direction. I thought this would happen in 1998/9 when underground artist like mos def q-tip, common, the roots, were getting props and winning grammies. the last great year in hip hop was 1994.
the last great year in music was the year before Nirvana stepped into a studio Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3 | |
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Supernova said: 728huey said: Hip-hop will never die!
But I don't believe this current batch of hip-hop will survive much longer. If you look at where hip-hop is today compared to when it first came onto the musci scene, it is exactly where rock 'n roll was in the late 70's. Just like how rock 'n roll was bloated and tired during the mid to late 1970's, mainstream hip-hop is exactly the same way.
Remember that at first, rock 'n roll was looked as a cheap fad during Elvis' heyday, and most people who didn't accuse it of being the devil's music thought that it was just fun music that would run its course. Likewise, early hip-hop was the same way. The Sugar Hill Gang could be called the Bill Haley of hip-hop, and Grandmaster Flash was its Elvis or Buddy Holly. Likewise, rock 'n roll had not begun to taken seriously by the mainstream until the Beatles arrived in America. Then all of a sudden, the mainstream was taken back and wondered "Who are these guys?" When Run-DMC broke through onto the pop charts, the mainstream media also took notice and realized that hip-hop was not going away soon. Just as it was not long after the Beatles conquered the mainstream music biz that rock 'n roll entered one if its most creative and diverse periods (Rolling Stones, The Who, Jimi Hendrix, The Doors, Janis Joplin, Jefferson Airplane, CSNY, The Yardbirds/Eric Clapton/Led Zeppelin, David Bowie), hip-hop also entered its most creative period after Run-DMC went platinum. This led to an explosion of diverse hip-hop artistry (Beastie Boys, Public Enemy, N.W.A., De La Soul, KRS One and B.D.P., Queen Latifah, 2Pac, Biggie Smalls, Wu-Tang Clan). Both rock 'n roll and hip-hop entered a golden age during these periods, but the strains and stresses would take its toll on the artists of those times. As a result, many of these brilliant artists would die prematurely (Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, 2Pac, Biggie Smalls), and harsh reality would cause both forms of music to retract inward. The mid-70s became a low point for mainstream rock 'n roll in a lot of respects, because much of the music became about partying and having fun and lots of sex and drugs, and musically, it became the extended guitar and drum solos. On tour, it was all about elaborate stage sets and pyrotechnics. In addition, corporate America got involved and started buying out record companies left and right. In addition, Southern-based rock 'n roll became huge during this period (Lynard Skynard, Allman Brothers, Elvin Bishop). Likewise, after the deaths of 2Pac and Biggie Smalls, hip-hop was all about excess (P Diddy), sex (all the booty-shaking raps), or bling-bling. Not coincidentally, Southern-based hip-hop and R&B is huge on the charts (crunk). Right now, hip-hop is desperately awaiting its punk-rock and new wave moment. Just as punk eventually transformed rock 'n roll during the late 70's and early 80's, hip-hop is waiting for a similar transformation that will send it back to its roots. I love it when people save me the time and energy of a post. Nice analysis there. Hip Hop and Rock have very similar histories and are reacted to in many similar ways by "parental types", sans going into the reality of the pioneers of rock and roll. ----- I don't like the Hip-Hop of today but it is not going away. It will lose the mass appeal and perhaps go back to its roots. Hip-Hop did not start to go bad until the masses picked up on it. | |
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Rap went down the drain IMO after 92. Around that time frame, it got ridiculously self-indulgent, and materialistic. It's been several years since I've actually bought a rap album, because my interest in the genre has waned drastically. Do people even mix anymore, or is it all pro tools these days?? | |
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well it'll change sooner or later, die, naw i don't think so if you mean totally leaving for good. I think that there is only so much you can say about jewels, diamonds, chinchillas, and cars. It will be changing soon.
besides i don't even listen to the stuff on the charts anymore, i mostly listen to old music. [Edited 2/20/05 14:57pm] I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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This topic (more like wishing and hoping) will never go away. Back in 1985 when I was the lone stupid white boy on the block that was breakin', my older brother would tell me, "Rap is a fad, Dan. Metal will never die." That's a long ass fad. Well, both metal and rap are still around, they've just changed forms to suit the masses. Personally, like many in this thread, I think the current state of hip-hop and rap, is really boring and uninspired. It'll change soon enough and oone boring watered down form of music will take the place of another. | |
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PraiseDaMan said: BlaqueKnight said: How many times must I tell you cynics...HIP-HOP AIN'T GOING NOWHERE. Why do you oldheadz (I'm an oldhead too technically, but that's beside the point) hold onto the ridiculous notion that hip hop is a passing fancy? Its been around for 30 years now. 30 years!!!!! No "fad" lasts that long. Hip hop is an official genre. Its CHANGING. It always changes. The commercial appeal of hipp hop may be dying, and if you ask me that's a good thing. The less fascinated the pop crowd is with pop-hop, the better the chance for real hip hop to slip in. I'm sick of commercialized hip-hop.
All genres have their heyday, then slack off. Hip-hop is no different. I am with BlaqueKnight on this. Hip-hop will be better served when the pop crowd loses its fascination. Hip-hop may be changing but its not going anywhere. When it first started everyone said it would be gone faster than disco and its still here - bigger than ever. Now its in most commercials, movies, tv programs, etc. MTV2 is not the tool we should gauge Hip-hop by - for that matter neither is MTV, BET, VH1 and any other TV station or show. It started in the streets and should be judged by the streets. Still here, bigger than ever, but not better. | |
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Soulchild82 said: Ok every genre needs its Nirvana to come along and put it back in the right direction. I thought this would happen in 1998/9 when underground artist like mos def q-tip, common, the roots, were getting props and winning grammies. the last great year in hip hop was 1994.
I took the Nirvana thing to be a wake up call in the sense that after Kurt Cobain's death the genre seemed completely wrung out and no longer relevant. People just begun to realise they were sick of the doom and gloom and sloppy production and wanted something brighter and more dynamic. All that contrived highschool introspection didn't seem the way to go anymore. | |
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Rock music is Dead! whether Hip-hop lives or dies, this will still be the case. | |
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lilgish said: Rock music is Dead! whether Hip-hop lives or dies, this will still be the case.
Bruce Springsteen, U2, Evanescence, Sheryl Crow, Maroon 5, Green Day and many other successful acts would beg to differ. | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: Bruce Springsteen, U2, Evanescence, Sheryl Crow, Maroon 5, Green Day and many other successful acts would beg to differ.
Is this the best group you can think of? Think about the people you woulda mentioned 10,20,30 years ago. Is this the state of rock music? Maroon 5? The Carpenters rocked harder!! U2 is the only band on that list that's even remotely a rock band. Their the last ones who put on a stadium rock tour. (Springstein is basicailly the grateful dead now, all he has to do is show up and everybody is gonna fork over their hundreds) I don't know where you live, but in New York you can't hear a decent rock tune for minutes. My Grandma is more punk than Green Day, I yelled at the punk posing kids when dookie came out, now I'm just frustrated and resigned to the fact that rock is over. [Edited 2/20/05 20:41pm] | |
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Hip Hop is growing stonger every year! Hip Hop is now so big they have sub genres like POP/hip hop WHICH ARE PEOPLE LIKE 50 CENT EMEINEM NELLY but you still have people like Mos Def, Outkast and so on.
To say hip hop is dead is like saying ROCK is dead because of Ashlee Simpson and Hillary Duff they are pop artists just like 50 cent. Hip Hop is here to stay. . [Edited 2/20/05 20:52pm] | |
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lilgish said: RipHer2Shreds said: Bruce Springsteen, U2, Evanescence, Sheryl Crow, Maroon 5, Green Day and many other successful acts would beg to differ.
Is this the best group you can think of? Think about the people you woulda mentioned 10,20,30 years ago. Is this the state of rock music? Maroon 5? The Carpenters rocked harder!! U2 is the only band on that list that's even remotely a rock band. Their the last ones who put on a stadium rock tour. (Springstein is basicailly the grateful dead now, all he has to do is show up and everybody is gonna fork over their hundreds) I don't know where you live, but in New York you can't hear a decent rock tune for minutes. My Grandma is more punk than Green Day, I yelled at the punk posing kids when dookie came out, now I'm just frustrated and resigned to the fact that rock is over. [Edited 2/20/05 20:41pm] First of all, you assumed from my post that I was mentioning "quality" acts. I made no judgment one way or the other on their quality. I said successful, and all of them had albums that did very well in the last year or two. And I don't understand how any Grateful Dead comparison negates the fact that Springsteen is and always will be a rock act. I am not a big fan of Green Day. Never have been and I had friends that were into them before they broke through with Dookie. Again, they are a successful rock band, and their album was #1 for a few weeks. | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: And I don't understand how any Grateful Dead comparison negates the fact that Springsteen is and always will be a rock act.
Springsteen was huge 20 years ago, he will be huge 20 years from now, his success is not a barometer for the current state of rock music. | |
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Tom said: Rap went down the drain IMO after 92. Around that time frame, it got ridiculously self-indulgent, and materialistic. It's been several years since I've actually bought a rap album, because my interest in the genre has waned drastically. Do people even mix anymore, or is it all pro tools these days??
I strongly disagree only on your chronology. 1994 was arguably the single greatest year in hip-hop history. It was a wonderfully diverse year. More on this later. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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namepeace said: Tom said: Rap went down the drain IMO after 92. Around that time frame, it got ridiculously self-indulgent, and materialistic. It's been several years since I've actually bought a rap album, because my interest in the genre has waned drastically. Do people even mix anymore, or is it all pro tools these days??
I strongly disagree only on your chronology. 1994 was arguably the single greatest year in hip-hop history. It was a wonderfully diverse year. More on this later. I'm with you here. I'd say that '88-'94 was a bit of a Golden Era for true hip-hop. So much to choose from, and a lot of it was interesting and inspiring.  | |
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In addition to classic singles: "Bring The Pain" (Method Man), "The Most Beautifullest . . ." (Keith Murray), and others, these albums represent the spectrum of hip-hop classics from '94.
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In addition to classic singles: "Bring The Pain" (Method Man), "The Most Beautifullest . . ." (Keith Murray), and others, these albums represent the spectrum of hip-hop classics from '94.
 [Edited 2/22/05 15:38pm] Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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