They annoy me

dreamfactory313 said:

Oh, okay. Thanks.

That song title is still ignorant though.

their whole style changed once they got the chick.

heybaby said:

Yep. Now I can't stand 'em.

VoicesCarry said:

So true. What I didn't say in my earlier post was that I first saw them in a video they did in 1998 or 1999 where they were in the street and the wind was blowing real hard. Unfortunately I don't know the name of the song but I liked it. I had a feeling that they were going to be big, especially the way MTV kept on playing their videos, but it didn't happen then. Then I saw the Request Line video with Macy Gray and I thought it was cool but then I didn't hear from them till Where Is The Love and when I found out that they had a female in the group, I knew then and there that they would finally blow up and sure enough it happened. I find Fergie kinda distracting, cause they were (probably still are) all about sending out a positive message, but why is it that in a couple of their videos, she gyrating around half-naked? I don't find anything positive about that.

purplecam said:

Yeah, that was the video for Joints & Jam which was pretty cool. I don't remember the girl that was with them before Fergie but she didn't oversing and had her own look and style.

purplecam said:

There is more to the Peas than a couple of music videos that u happened to catch while surfing MTV. Ive been a fan since '98 and I have all of their cds and singles and whatnot. They arent corny and they arent a cheese-fest type of band. I find that many of the detractors are just casual observers not only of the Peas but of hip hop in general and that is very disapointing. The wise always say that once u KNOW better that u are more inclined to DO better. Perhaps this wisdom wont fall on def ears and people will get to know the culture/artform before they trash it. Its obvious to me that what theyve been doing since '98 is what they have created. Its not what anyone else is doing and for that alone, they get kudos from me. Of all that can be labled under the umbrella of hip hop, people want to shit on the Peas? My mind is blown. I just cant believe it. There are dozens of "artists" that need their clocks cleaned b4 the Peas. C'mon now. Lets be serious.

JackieBlue said:

Her name is Kim Hill. She also did vocals on the Bridging The Gap album

JackieBlue said:

That's the song! Thanks.

From VH-1:

Positive messages and breakdancing are integral parts of hip-hop culture, but by 1990 those elements had been temporarily eclipsed by the tough gangster image and bleak but compelling lyrics of West Coast groups like N.W.A.. However, despite sharing a zip code, Black Eyed Peas' vision goes beyond the cracked-sidewalk vignettes and sampled gunfire of Los Angeles' gangster style. The socially conscious group's earliest connections go back to high school, when Will.I.Am and Apl de Ap were part of Tribal Nation, a breakdancing crew. Eventually the pair focused more on music -- hip-hop, specifically -- and split off into their own as Atban Klann, their esoteric name an acronym for A Tribe Beyond a Nation. Eazy-E's Ruthless Records signed the group in 1992 , but many in the Ruthless camp were puzzled by the group and the enthusiasm of Eazy, who had no problem reconciling his own gangster style with the peace-minded breakdancing of Atban. Although an album was recorded, Ruthless shelved it, unsure how to market a group whose style wasn't dependent on violent braggadocio like N.W.A.

The death of Eazy-E in 1995 signaled the end of any further deals with Ruthless. Undaunted by the experience, Will and Apl recruited another dancer/MC, Taboo, and reappeared as Black Eyed Peas. BEP began playing shows around L.A., impressing hip-hop fans with their mic skills and dazzling them with their footwork as well. In 1998 their debut, Behind the Front, was released to critical acclaim -- not only for the trio of MCs, but for their live band and backing vocalist Kim Hill as well. Featuring guest appearances from Jurassic 5's Chali 2na, De La Soul, and Macy Gray, BEP's sophomore effort, Bridging the Gap, was released in 2000. The group's third album, 2003's Elephunk, featured a new member, Fergie, who replaced Kim Hill. ~ Wade Kergan, All Music Guide

dreamfactory313 said:

U mean like these?



I mean, really. We're not talking about Rakim or Tribe. We're talking about the Black Eyed Peas. They're a great hip-pop outfit. That's about it.
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namepeace said:

Bring it!!! All due respect to BEP, but they ain't hip hop. Not no mo'.

dreamfactory313 said:

dream.

DREAM.

You know why they added that girl. Come on, now. It was a shrewd move. They'd have gone the way of most earnest, positive hip-hop outfits had they not added her. No one's getting down on their positivity. The ones who are annoyed by them are just expressing an opinion.

dreamfactory313 said:

But they aren't the second coming of Digable Planets, either.



Reasonable minds can disagree.



So the BEPs are synonymous with true hip-hop? If you don't like them you don't know hip-hop? That's a lil' extreme don'tcha think? I can think of tons of artists past and present I would say that for, but BEPs would be way, way, way, WAY down on that list.



But this thread is about the BEPs. And these are simply opinions. No one's saying that they aren't positive. No one's saying they shouldn't be successful. No one's saying that people who like the BEPs don't know hip-hop. Many, like me, are saying 1) they are wack, 2) they were aiight when they first dropped but now they are wack, or 3) both of the above.

namepeace said:

Good evening, 'peace. How are you this fine evening?

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

Very well, very well, and u?

namepeace said:

;lol: I am much better now.

namepeace said:

Hell Yeah. That cut Joints and Jam was a slammin no doubt. But, since Fergie got in the mix, this group has been sounding like a big piece of dog shit . The sound of the Peas has went from Let's Get It Started to Somebody's .

dancerella said:

Nope, i know who you're talking about, bad ponytail and all. My friend saw that Best Buy ad and thought they were a creation of the store's ad company. It was only when he saw the Grammy commercial that he believed me that they were a real group.

Whoever said the Matchbox 20 of hip hop was dead on it.

VoicesCarry said:

Damn right.

Well,they're not the worst thing in hip-hop right now,and I prefer them over all those thugged-out gangsta rappers.Their songs are fun and catchy,and they're not terribly offensive or vulgar (at least the songs I have heard by them).So I'm not gonna diss them just yet...

dancerella said:

maybe its will i am? as he hogs the front everytime they do something.

i liked them back in 97-98 when they released joints and jams.so to me they been around like forever. also the pre jointsjams song(with video but i forget the name) was pretty alright.the sound was different as well.

I like the Black Eyed Peas. I don't think they need Fergie but I don't think they suck either. I like their clothes too.

dreamfactory313 said:

Nothing. Just pointing out that I remember her from that show. I still can't stand her though.

I admit, tho, I do kinda like the singles off this CD, especially "Hey Mama" and I also liked that Macy Gray one from a few years back.

I just don't like watching them, in videos or otherwise.

DavidEye said:

Excellent point Davideye. I agree with you, however I don't find their music very interesting. They seem to yell a lot and jump around a lot. I don't really get it It doesn't do anything for me, but I can't say they annoy me.

MendesCity said:

I also liked that Macy gray duet Hey DJ which was cool.

GeminiMoon said:

their music is actually ok. hey mama rocks and i agree that at least they do have some style, though it could be toned down a bit. maybe just 2 layers of clothes instead of 14.

i think they are filling the void left by the fugees...

i kinda liked some of their earlier cuts when they were still a bit underground...and some of the songs on their new cd are ok...(haven't bought it, but have heard it played by others)...but i can't stand "let's get it started"...this song is so overexposed and overplayed everywhere...

I don't feel their song style at all.