Number one on my list has always been and will always be little miss goodie two shoes herself, Whiteny Houston. They should put a picture of her in the dictionary next to the word "sellout".

She may have not been the first to do weak, watered down R&B for mass pop appeal, but she was the first to be so successful at it that everyone else would follow her lead. She opened the floodgates for tons of future weak artists that wouldn't have one uptempo song on their album and if there was one, it would be so watered down for pop appeal that it wasn't funky at all. In the late 1980s, when the majority of R&B artists were following her lead, this left a void from where funk used to be. Rap and hip hop, which was uptempo at the time, filled this void. Then gangsta rap came along and slowed the tempo of rap and hip hop down. I think if she had not been so successful at being a sellout, others would not have been influenced by her and we might still have some jams today.

I also never could stand her little goodie two shoes, sweet, wholesome, girl next door image. She was the black Debbie Boone of the music business. I like strong, hard jamming, hard rocking women with minds of their own. She let her producers tell her "Whitney, tone it down. You're coming across too black. You want a hit don't you?" Then she got with Bobby Brown and let him control the shots. Then she got on drugs at a time when everyone else was abandoning drugs. Once again, little miss goodie two shoes was late. Actually, if she had been on drugs in the 1980s when the other artists were, maybe she could have jammed with the rest of them.

The thing that really pisses me off is she has a great voice. The bitch can sing her ass off but she sings weak, watered down ass shit. She could have been a great artist with the right material, but she never had a mind of her own.

THE RAP SMURF!

You know the little blue guy who is the guest artist and sings chorus on many contemporary hip hop and R&B hits.

R.Kelly---for the life of me,I still can't figure out why so many women think his songs are sexy.His lyrics are silly,unintentionally hilarious and just plain dumb ("just like a lollipop,you're so sweet....your body's like a lemon drop,sho tastes good to me"?????).He's an awful songwriter making lame R&B,that is,when he's not busy having sex with underage girls.When does his trial begin anyway? Let's lock this fool up right now!

It used to trip me out when he first came out and people were saying "That R. Kelly is jamming". I'm thinking, how the hell can he be jamming, he hasn't made one fast song? People have forgetten what the word "jamming" means. If they possibly have that bad of taste, they might call it a "slow jam" but "jamming"...hell no! Remember that stupid song about a jeep?
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vainandy said:

I'm not too familiar with his output, but wasn't his first hit a new jack dance track called "She's got that vibe" ?

and THAT song I actually DID enjoy

I've never heard that one. These people were talking about that song about a jeep.

AsylumUtopia said:

When I lived in Birmingham, I used to occasionally bump into various members of said offensive, talent-dodging, Burbury scarf-wearing, pre-Chav Chav tune-murderers.

I owe the music world a huge apology for the fact that on several occasions, I had the opportunity to inflict physical harm on these twats, yet I passed up on the chance..

Although my younger brother once met the bassist and told him his band was crap, which kinda makes up for it a bit


As you were.




Those talentless bastards made me spell stuff wrong edit
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damosuzuki said:

True. acts like China Crisis, Tears For Fears and Howard Jones often fgot lumped in because they were keyboard dominated for the first year or two.

I still wanted to smash their faces in though!

Adisa said:

kisscamille said:

thank you hun

i can't stand:

Destiny's Child - Sorry, but i still much rather listen to the Supremes

T.I. - okay so what is so special about this T.I. guy with that annoying song with Jay-Z's hookline?? I don't get it, he sounds just like the rest of those wanna be thugs

Ludacris - Same with him, what makes him such a special rapper?

Mario - He bores me

Ciara - Overrated and uggg...

Olivia - Still don't get her, is she suppose to fill the void that lil' kim has suddenly left behind?

Usher - Just because you are able to produce Jacko's and James Brown moves don't make you special, but if you make up some original ones on your own that no one has seen before, then yes, you would be considered special...

Beyonce - Yes you are pretty, but i've heard better singers. By the way, your album is very sickening after the first 4 tracks. I request more originality for your next album..

dancinggyrl said:

Ah yes, that's him, thanks. I did think the Housemartins were a good band, it's just unfortunate that everything they did was ruined (for me) by the Heatonscreech. I don't think Beautiful South are worth much though, even when he doesn't sing.

RocknRollDave said:

I have reassessed my position on OCS. Because I have a couple of their albums I just assumed without thinking about it that I like them. And then I actually gave it some thought. Moseley Shoals I bought because I liked Policemen & Pirates and then discovered that ALL of side A and most of side B is actually boring, and after a while, annoying. I also bought One from the Modern because I thought Profit in Peace was a catchy little tune. I quickly came to realise just how irritating it actually is. Profit in Peace is the first track, and the album goes rapidly downhill after that. I never bought any of their other albums because I (quite rightly as it turns out) didn't think they were that good.

See, I've been going around under the assumption that I liked them, when in actual fact I should despise them for making me waste my money on two of their deceptively irritating albums.

So, if you ever get the opportunity, give them a good kick up the arse from me, and thumbs up to your brother!

Anyway, on with the hate (or intense dislike) :
5ive, Six, All About Eve, Atomic Kitten, Blue, Back street Boys, Babybird, Bloodhound Gang, Catatonia, Cheeky Girls, Charlotte Church, The Corrs, The Cranberries, Terence Trent Darby, Craig David, Dido....
(I'm only up to D so far...)

UB40 must B the worst band EVER!!!
U2 is 2nd.

Oh well, them fuckaz pro'bly made mo' money with their music than I will ever C in my lifetime.

missfee said:

I saw a small portion of his Grammy performance on TV the other night, and I was bored after like, 5 seconds of it. Damn, I can do those moves too. I just don't get the appeal.

vainandy said:

Good goddamnn

That was a lil' too rough on the edges, boo

Personaly I thought she had some funky tunes under her belt(Thinking About You W/Kashif comes to mind).

But what do you expect? She's a mainstream artist, she can't do the Millie Jackson/Betty Davis/Chaka Khan thing,,,white folks ain't gonna understand her and like you said it was the 80's(when white people were the ULTIMATE audience).

You might as well put Lionel Ritchie's name in that post too,,,coz the brotha was a sell-out too(musicaly).

You can't imagine how lucky all you are !

You have been blessed to not knowing the french singers (some are good anyway). Of course, all that you mentionned suck. But they are genius compare to the worst of french "variété".
From Michel Sardou to Vincent Delerm and K-Maro, they are just pushing away the limits of awfulness in music and lyrics.

I could never stand Rush, Actually, some of the music itself isn't bad, but Geddy Lee's voice just irritates me to no end. I wish they had another singer who didn't have that banshee wailing like Geddy. Same goes for Yes also, I just can't take Jon Anderson's piercing wail of a voice

Harlepolis said:

He went off on this same rant a few months back. I don't wanna rehash the whole sellout debate again, but she can't really be a sellout when she's always done pop/R&B to begin with.

whoever listed earth, wind, & fire has got to be outta their ever lovin mind...(lol ) due 2 the fact that ewf is still one of the baddest bands of all time next 2 tower of power, ohio players, confunkshun, the original bar-kays, parliament-funkadelic, the jb's, rare earth, war, santana,average white band,etc, etc....

and I can't still make it out how somebody put The Beatles and Queen there...

Harlepolis said:

White folks can understand Janet Jackson. I would rather listen to her any day over Whitney.

dancinggyrl said:

Just when I thought I had nothing to add to this subject and was just
you had to bring this one up.

I can't stand his voice, hate his looks with his horse face and the horse tail to match, and the fact that every one of his "hit" songs where created by someone else
Michael Bolton

sextonseven said:

Janet Jackson is accessible, of course they'll dig her

Adisa said:

EWF???
How many albums have you heard? please don't say the greatest hits. we all know the best songs never make the greatest hits.

diamondpearl1 said:

co-f*cking sign EWF qualifies as one of the truly great bands in several different categoriees: soul, rock, funk etc...

prodigalfan said:

Even if one of their greatest hits sets is all Adisa heard, he's still outta his mind! They are album artists, but that doesn't take anything away from their hits.

Michael Jackson - When I was younger, I didn't really mind the guy. I have his CD's, I liked his videos, I listened to his music. Then the internet came around. He might be the biggest case of "fans ruined him for me" ever. They're militant! Sorry, but it's true. Oh, and 'Stranger in Moscow' is cheesy, self-pitying shit!


Usher/Kanye/50/R Kelly - I don't need to hear them brag about themselves everywhere I go. These people start buying into their own hype, and before you know it, they think that they are the second coming.

Toby Keith - FUTK! You're just an idiotic, ignorant hillbilly.

Harlepolis said:

There’s never been a Black artist or act that hasn’t been inaccessible to White folks. The more inaccessible the better. This acceptance usually leads to a backlash (usually irrational) from the Black audience; once it becomes uncool for Blacks to like the artist, the White audience will usually flee (example: Public Enemy)….…and then there’s a Black artist who’s especially groomed for crossover appeal (Whitney Houston) , these stars usually burn out from the pressure of having to be accepted or having to maintain a false persona. Having burned out the record companies will usually look for another similar Black artist or if their lucky find a White one with the same attributes.

I like Whitney Houston and I think she’s sexy.

I don't hate any artist and my dislike for some is completely rational (ex. Ludicrous, Usher)

EWF gets to be too much after a while, especially when it’s played at every function and get together.

Axchi696 said:

Oh god, i had this problem.
I used to like MJ a whole better than i do now, though i still appreciate him and listen to his music.

My ex girlfriend was a MJ freak. She loved him more than me
And she hung MJ posters up in my room and forced me to watch MJ dvds with her every time she came over.
She put MJ wallpapers on my computer and was trying to force me to become an MJ freak like her.
DAMMIT!!!

Axchi696 said:

You don't say

this came from an mj board, i didn't make this up.

The MJ fans are bad, especially the new ones, which is why I stay off their boards, but there's one fan base that's even worse. I still like their music, but their fans are complete sheep. The band has already been mentioned in this thread so I'll save my commentary for the "worst fans in music thread”