FunkMistress said:

Suck it up and take your a$$ to Blockbuster!

OdysseyMiles said:

Who spanks the Mistress?

You're lucky I like you...

minneapolisgenius said:

are you kidding? it makes me want to see it even more.
but I will have to buy it and wait for the right night
to watch it when there is no one around.

I can't stand it when other people are around to guide
me through my own emotions

I liked it.

FunkMistress said:

Yeah, I knew I was takin' a chance there....

MendesCity said:

Oh, that killed me.



I don't think I could watch it again... not sure... I haven't felt compelled to see it again. It's way too heavy and painful to watch. I went to one of those previews and couldn't get through the shaky camera stuff... so I left during the first musical number in the factory. I had the soundtrack and was listening to it a lot. I finally rented it and watched it last year or so. I haven't been able to put the soundtrack in my cd player since I saw the movie. I'm afraid to re-live all that.
[Edited 2/9/05 15:07pm]

I'm curious as to why this flick reduced nearly everyone to tears. What was so sad about it?

NWF said:

have you seen it? i'm guessing you haven't, if you have to ask.

NWF said:

i think you just have to see it. it's not really visually graphic. it's not gory or anything like that. but it's very, very emotionally graphic. that's how i always describe this movie to people who haven't seen it. imagine the goriest movie you've ever seen, and transfer the gore into emotions, and you have 'dancer in the dark', or any lars von trier movie for that matter.

Anxiety said:

In other words.. its seriously fucked up.






















but its good.

VinaBlue said:

yeah, more or less.

I think the main thing that got me over Dancer in the Dark
is the fact that the story makes no sense...
...it's a negative fairy tale.

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this is the content of mrsquiggles post...spoiler warning..dont read if you wanna see the film unspoiled...


scroll over content with your courser:

MrSquiggle said:[quote]...People on death row usually get more appeals...
America has never and is highly unlikely to execute a woman with child...
The lawyer would've taken the case pro bono...
Selma is cross-examined by the prosecution at her trial, apparently without first being questioned by her own defense lawyer. A defendant in a U.S. trial cannot be coerced to testify against him/herself...
Supposedly set in USA, the following European bird species can be heard: white wagtail, song thrush, fieldfare, blackbird, blackcap and willow warbler....

okay that last one is sorta silly :lol:but still....
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MrSquiggle said:

its a melodrama!!! and a musical!!!

who says, "nobody breaks out in a song and dance during a rumble" during westside story?

who says, "its unreal to dance up the walls" when watching singing in the rain?...

lars wanted to take those fantasy elements of the classical hollywood musicals and turn it on its head by setting it in a realistic cinema verte style...

thats the wonder of it.

just see it.
[Edited 2/9/05 22:33pm]

This is really strange.

When I started this thread, it was only thinking about sharing the emotions I felt when I saw the movie...

I've never seen the movie again. I guess I was afraid of being too much emotional with it.

Now, after reading all your comments, I surely feel less alone about it. Ans God, I want to see it again. Just to try.


Thanx. For all of those who shared the same tears and relief.

For all of you

and

Anxiety said:

Okay, yeah, that sounds like straight-up hell to me. No thanks!

FunkMistress said:

no no no, your taking it as a negative..its also inspiring...and it is a beautiful example of motherhood...after seeing the film i took my mom and all my cousins who were mothers to share the experience with them...they all loved it. and the discussions about life, love, sacrafice.....its a wonderful entry for good discussion...how about you rent it today and then report back to us..mm-kay?

sosgemini said:

Never!

I have mixed feelings on Von Trier's films. He's definitely got it in for the United States, yet he's never ventured here. I don't object to him having opinions on the USA or its policies, but I think I just think it gives his films are an interesting, if not altogether truthful, take on American life. For me, kDancer in the Dark was a decent film that was only watchable because of Beyork's performance. The soundtrack was fantastic. As a whole, I found Breaking the Waves to be an altogether better film.

RipHer2Shreds said:

i disagree (are you suprised?).....I love Von Trier's responce when critics/reporters ask him this:

Did Murray Burnett need to have stepped foot in America to write Cassablanca?

You dont have to look at Dancer In The Dark (or Dogville) as commentaries on America...Both of these stories are about human condition and they could have occured in any city in any country....

sosgemini said:

I agree to a point - they are about the human condition, but they're also about certain negative aspects of the culture of the United States; sexual violence, capital punishment, immigrant issues, etc. Yes, these can happen anywhere, but he purposefully chose to have Dogville and Dancer in the Dark take place in the United States. I don't think a film addressing those issues here is a bad idea at all, and I don't think either is a bad film. I just think that those issues are better addressed by somebody who has more direct knowledge of them.

*I only say USA or United States, because I dislike the use of "America" when referring to the USA. America is a lot more than the 50 states - Canada, Mexico, Chile, Panama, etc.

Bjork was great.

I thought the movie took to long to establish itself as a musical (like 40 minutes), and then had song after song at the end.

I've Seen It All is one of my all-time favorite songs.

I like the character of her "boyfriend" a lot and how they sing it on the train tracks as the train is flying by.

I've Seen It All

Björk
I've seen it all
I have seen the trees
I have seen the willow leaves
Dancing in the breeze

Tom Yorke
I've seen a man killed
By his best friend,
And lives that were over
Before they were spent.

Björk & Tom Yorke
I've seen what I was
And I know what I'll be
I've seen it all
There is no more to see

Björk
You haven't seen elephants
Kings or Peru

Tom Yorke
I'm happy to say
I had better to do

Björk
What about China?
Have you seen the Great Wall?

Tom Yorke
All walls are great
If the roof doesn't fall
And the man you will marry
The home you will share

Björk
To be honest
I really don't care

[gibberish]

Tom Yorke
You've never been
To Niagara Falls

Björk
I have seen water
It's water, that's all

Tom Yorke
The Eiffel Tower
The Empire State

Björk
My pulse was as high
On my very first date

Tom Yorke
And your grandson's hand
As he plays with your hair

Björk
To be honest
I really don't care

[gibberish]

Björk & Yorke
I've seen it all
I've seen the dark
I've seen the brightness
In one little spark
I've seen what I chose
And I've seen what I need
And that is enough
To want more would be greed
I've seen what I was
And I know what I'll be
I've seen it all
There is no more to see

Tom Yorke
You've seen it all
And all you have seen
You can always review on
Your own little screen
The light and the dark
The big and the small
Just keep in mind
You need no more at all

Björk & Tom Yorke
You've seen what you were
And know what you'll be
You've seen it all
There is no more to see

[gibberish]

andyman91 said:

i agree to some extent, but it's the way that the musical numbers are used that leads to it feeling so off-balance. the musical portions are her escape from reality, and as her situation becomes more and more dire, and she becomes more and more unhinged, the more she retreats into her fantasy musical world. by the end, she's pretty much living in the fantasy world, which is why most of the songs are log-jammed at the end of the film.

GrayKing said:

Robert Wise (considered the god of musical's who directed Westside Story & The Sound of Music) once said that in order for a musical to be believeable you have to have a musical number within the first fifteen minutes of film.....He said its too jarring for the audience otherwise..I personally think Lars was aware of this "hollywood rule" and wanted to fuck with it and prove it wrong by forcing the audience to wait fourty minutes for the first number...

sosgemini said:

i agree. but i also think he failed at making a convincing musical because of it. great, great film. so-so musical.