How is Madonna influential ?
Surely her crappy music wasn't innovating
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Dewrede said:

innovating enough to inspire britney spears...


how wonderful

Sdldawn said:

Britney, Beyonce, Pink, Xtina, Kylie, Dannii, Lil' Kim, Debbie Gibson, Alicia Keys, Janet, Tiffany, Paula Abdul, Hillary Duff, Jessica Simpson, the Donnas, Tori Amos, Gem, Bjork, Goldfrapp, Gem, Alanis Morrisette, Me'shell, Ani, Missy Elliott. J-Lo

Her image is still to controversal and overpowering for most to look past it. She has been in inspration in taking control of one's carear and image.

She is one of the founders of the current dance pop sound. Most concerts today from performers have taken a few things away from her.

Inspired over 200million units to be sold.
6 nearly sold out tours
more top 5 US hits than any other artist besides Elvis.

but forget all that and focus on her being a "slut." Cause she slept with ONE of her first record producers, but the gay A&R guy her took to meet the gay owner of the label she was signed to.

How many women has Prince slept with, and how much more did he talk about sex in his songs? oh that's right he's a man so it's ok!
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I've slept with more People than Madonna has, she just gets every guy she has slept with on the cover of Tabloids

ehuffnsd said:

So what does that make you then?

/just kiddin'

P.S. With Madonna, it ain't just about the guys.
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VoicesCarry said:

i've slept with more guys than she has... she has me on the ladies

Influential: One who has the power to affect people, things, or the course of events, especially one that operates without any direct or apparent effort

Artist: A person whose creative work shows sensitivity and imagination

Bessie Smith
Billie Holliday
Ella Fitzgerald
Marian Anderson
Aretha Franklin
Joni Mitchell
Edith Piaf
June Carter
Dolly Parton
Carole King

To everyones lists, I'll add:

The Runaways - the first important all female rock band

Kim Deal - who laid down the bass on a body of work that has proven to have been very influential (and who I am in love with).

I've slept with more People than Madonna has, she just gets every guy she has slept with on the cover of Tabloids

Stax said:

You're kidding right...they were the female monkees. (not that i dislike the monkees or don't like joan jett) If your digging that deep you might as well have mentioned suzi quatro.

Stax said:

I love the pixies (breeders) more than sonic youth, but are you gonna put her over kim gordon?

Where is my mind?

kate bush has definitely been a hugely influential artist.

ehuffnsd said:

I think people call Madonna a slut because she's slept with everyone except the pope, 2 dead guys, a parakeet in Japan, and whoever's in a coma (Sunny Von Bulow excepted).

Not because she screwed her first record producer.

Sdldawn said:

Britney, Beyonce, Pink, Xtina, Kylie, Dannii, Lil' Kim, Debbie Gibson, Alicia Keys, Janet, Tiffany, Paula Abdul, Hillary Duff, Jessica Simpson, the Donnas, Tori Amos, Gem, Bjork, Goldfrapp, Gem, Alanis Morrisette, Me'shell, Ani, Missy Elliott. J-Lo

ehuffnsd said:

Way too much of a stretch with those three.

And Tori Amos has even explicitly stated Madonna's influence isn't musical.

Supernova said:

we wouldn't know about Me'shell if Madonna hadn't signed her

ehuffnsd said:

1. Being signed to one's label does not mean their is a musical influence. It's not like Candlebox were influenced by Madonna.

2. Freddy DeMann (I think his name is) signed Meshell. Meshell would like people to be clear on that, too.

To everyones lists, I'll add:


The Runaways - the first important all female rock band

Harlepolis said:

is this kim wayans?

ehuffnsd said:

Way too much of a stretch with those three.

And Tori Amos has even explicitly stated Madonna's influence isn't musical.

To everyones lists, I'll add:


The Runaways - the first important all female rock band

and


Kim Deal - who laid down the bass on a body of work that has proven to have been very influential (and who I am in love with).

(full disclosure edit)
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lilgish said:

I didn't.








oh my golly!
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Supernova said:

That may be true, but influence IS influence. Irregardless if she was musically influenced by Madonna or not, she still admits that Madonna was influential.

Axchi696 said:

Less important when talking about the history of music.