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Ruben Stoddard I said it first!
I knew when he was in the hospital back in November for a "pneumonia" that you would start seeing him lose a lot of weight. I hear his weight loss is really noticeable. I bet anything he had the weight loss surgery! Good for him! "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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prodigalfan said: I said it first!
I knew when he was in the hospital back in November for a "pneumonia" that you would start seeing him lose a lot of weight. I hear his weight loss is really noticeable. I bet anything he had the weight loss surgery! Good for him! ...Or full blown AIDS... | |
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prodigalfan said: I said it first!
I knew when he was in the hospital back in November for a "pneumonia" that you would start seeing him lose a lot of weight. I hear his weight loss is really noticeable. I bet anything he had the weight loss surgery! Good for him! Bad career move. There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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Janfriend said: prodigalfan said: I said it first!
I knew when he was in the hospital back in November for a "pneumonia" that you would start seeing him lose a lot of weight. I hear his weight loss is really noticeable. I bet anything he had the weight loss surgery! Good for him! ...Or full blown AIDS... Was that a crude dig at Luther Vandross? | |
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twink69 said: Janfriend said: ...Or full blown AIDS... Was that a crude dig at Luther Vandross? | |
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twink69 said: Janfriend said: ...Or full blown AIDS... Was that a crude dig at Luther Vandross? of course not! my goodness... | |
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Janfriend said: prodigalfan said: I said it first!
I knew when he was in the hospital back in November for a "pneumonia" that you would start seeing him lose a lot of weight. I hear his weight loss is really noticeable. I bet anything he had the weight loss surgery! Good for him! ...Or full blown AIDS... bad form  you look better on your facebook page than you do in person  | |
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Janfriend said: prodigalfan said: I said it first!
I knew when he was in the hospital back in November for a "pneumonia" that you would start seeing him lose a lot of weight. I hear his weight loss is really noticeable. I bet anything he had the weight loss surgery! Good for him! ...Or full blown AIDS... Shame on you.  | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: Janfriend said: ...Or full blown AIDS... Shame on you. yeah.....we ain't talking about Janet here!! | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: Janfriend said: ...Or full blown AIDS... Shame on you. Yeah, where the hell did that come from?  | |
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Who is Ruben Stoddard? |
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Janfriend said: prodigalfan said: I said it first!
I knew when he was in the hospital back in November for a "pneumonia" that you would start seeing him lose a lot of weight. I hear his weight loss is really noticeable. I bet anything he had the weight loss surgery! Good for him! ...Or full blown AIDS...  | |
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HamsterHuey said: Who is Ruben Stoddard?
Ruben Studdard - he was the winner of American Idol season 2. Nice, if typical, voice. He's very heavy, and apparently has lost some weight recently. | |
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He might of had gastric bypass. Haven't seen him. Hope his weight loss doesn't affect his singing (or hope it does). |
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I don't understand why people are trippin' over my comment. Is AIDS something no one is allowed to talk about? This thread mentioned him having rapid weight loss and pneumonia. Anyone can have HIV/AIDS and I was not trying to be humorous with that remark. I was serious. You don't know his health history. There are people walking around with all kinds of diseases and you would NEVER know | |
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Has he really lost alot of weight? Can someone post a recent pic? | |
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Janfriend said: I don't understand why people are trippin' over my comment. Is AIDS something no one is allowed to talk about? This thread mentioned him having rapid weight loss and pneumonia. Anyone can have HIV/AIDS and I was not trying to be humorous with that remark. I was serious. You don't know his health history. There are people walking around with all kinds of diseases and you would NEVER know
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Janfriend said: I don't understand why people are trippin' over my comment. Is AIDS something no one is allowed to talk about? This thread mentioned him having rapid weight loss and pneumonia. Anyone can have HIV/AIDS and I was not trying to be humorous with that remark. I was serious. You don't know his health history. There are people walking around with all kinds of diseases and you would NEVER know
I thought u were ref to when luther lost a lot of weight in the 80's and everyone was saying he had AIDS, and the recent rumors that he actually didn't suffer stroke and is now in the final stages | |
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Janfriend said: I don't understand why people are trippin' over my comment. Is AIDS something no one is allowed to talk about? This thread mentioned him having rapid weight loss and pneumonia. Anyone can have HIV/AIDS and I was not trying to be humorous with that remark. I was serious. You don't know his health history. There are people walking around with all kinds of diseases and you would NEVER know
I will speak only for myself here. I can't speak as to why others are "trippin'." You're making a whole host of assumptions that seem to be based in ignorance with just a few little words. First of all, there is no "full blown AIDS" diagnosis; either you've got it or do you don't. I'm not even sure exactly what "full blown AIDS" means. Yes, some people are worse off than others, but the term itself is horribly out of date. It's not the virus itself that makes you sick. It's that it allows you to get sicknesses - a lot of them being conditions that anybody can have - that an otherwise healthy person can fight off. Secondly, if somebody is hospitalized due to HIV-related complications and they're that sick, chances are likely that they're going to be hospitalized for a long while. If you're so sick that you're losing weight very rapidly, no competent doctor is going to let you out of the hospital. Additionally, there would be more to it than just weight loss if he was that sick. A lot more. AIDS-related wasting is nowhere near as common as it once was. I work with HIV-positive people everyday, and I have friends who are living with the disease. That's the explanation for my reaction. [Edited 1/21/05 6:03am] | |
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Reuben sandwich
Rye bread filled with sauerkraut, Swiss cheese and corned beef, smothered with a zesty sauce and broiled until golden.... INGREDIENTS: 1 tablespoon chili sauce 1/3 cup mayonnaise 8 slices rye bread 1/2 pound thinly sliced corned beef 1/2 pound sliced Swiss cheese 1 pound sauerkraut Preheat oven broiler. Mix chili sauce and mayonnaise until smooth. Spread mayonnaise mixture and butter on bread slices. Layer corned beef, Swiss and sauerkraut on 4 slices and top with remaining slices. Place on baking sheet under preheated broiler and broil until browned, turning once, 2 minutes. *****************************************
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Wasn't he doing some diet/exercise shit with some wack entertainment show ? | |
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Should we realy give a shit what happens to the people who were on versions of Idols?? WHAT IF THERE IS NO TOMORROW? THERE WASN'T ONE TODAY! | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: Janfriend said: I don't understand why people are trippin' over my comment. Is AIDS something no one is allowed to talk about? This thread mentioned him having rapid weight loss and pneumonia. Anyone can have HIV/AIDS and I was not trying to be humorous with that remark. I was serious. You don't know his health history. There are people walking around with all kinds of diseases and you would NEVER know
I will speak only for myself here. I can't speak as to why others are "trippin'." You're making a whole host of assumptions that seem to be based in ignorance with just a few little words. First of all, there is no "full blown AIDS" diagnosis; either you've got it or do you don't. I'm not even sure exactly what "full blown AIDS" means. Yes, some people are worse off than others, but the term itself is horribly out of date. It's not the virus itself that makes you sick. It's that it allows you to get sicknesses - a lot of them being conditions that anybody can have - that an otherwise healthy person can fight off. Secondly, if somebody is hospitalized due to HIV-related complications and they're that sick, chances are likely that they're going to be hospitalized for a long while. If you're so sick that you're losing weight very rapidly, no competent doctor is going to let you out of the hospital. Additionally, there would be more to it than just weight loss if he was that sick. A lot more. AIDS-related wasting is nowhere near as common as it once was. I work with HIV-positive people everyday, and I have friends who are living with the disease. That's the explanation for my reaction. [Edited 1/21/05 6:03am] co-sign to ALL of that | |
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Janfriend said: I don't understand why people are trippin' over my comment. Is AIDS something no one is allowed to talk about? This thread mentioned him having rapid weight loss and pneumonia. Anyone can have HIV/AIDS and I was not trying to be humorous with that remark. I was serious. You don't know his health history. There are people walking around with all kinds of diseases and you would NEVER know
well, from what I know, there are a dozens of reasons a person can rapidly lose weight, none of which are remotely life threatening. I would have assumed gastric bypass surgery,like Al Roker and Star Jones supposedly had, since it is the "in" thing to do now and is very commonplace. But to infer that somebody might have AIDS without any kind of first of first hand knowledge is just wrong. If that is the case, Janet sure did lose a lot of weight between the When I Think of You video and the Love Will Never Do Without You video...it doesn't mean she was dying, it just means something happened in her life that none of us were directly priveleged to know about, thus rumors about removed ribs and things as such. But to just say somebody has AIDS or any other dreadful disease without substantiation is reckless and mean spirited. nuff said. [Edited 1/21/05 8:56am] you look better on your facebook page than you do in person | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: First of all, there is no "full blown AIDS" diagnosis; either you've got it or do you don't. I'm not even sure exactly what "full blown AIDS" means. Yes, some people are worse off than others, but the term itself is horribly out of date.
That is not accurate. HIV positive and AIDS is not the same. One leads to the other. The term "full blown AIDS" is a very current medical description for a person who's HIV has totally destroyed the immunity system and now the person has no protection from opportune germs that a normal immunity system can fight off. There is a lab value that will indicate when you are in "full blown AIDS", (I don't know the value off hand but it has to do with your T cell count.) It's not the virus itself that makes you sick. It's that it allows you to get sicknesses - a lot of them being conditions that anybody can have - that an otherwise healthy person can fight off.
This is correct I work with HIV-positive people everyday, and I have friends who are living with the disease. That's the explanation for my reaction.
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[Edited 1/21/05 6:03am] I work with HIV positive and AIDS people everyday also... I am a nurse in a inner city hospital. I have now met and have cared for at least 150+ AIDS/ HIV people in my career. (Not a lot by medical standards, but probably a lot more than the average non medical person will come in contact in their entire life). This is the explanation for my reaction. AIDS is becoming a more serious epidemic... 5 people on my unit last week were under the age of 50, every one of them had HIV or AIDS. That was one third our census. and no we do not "specialize" in HIV patients. "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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prodigalfan said: RipHer2Shreds said: First of all, there is no "full blown AIDS" diagnosis; either you've got it or do you don't. I'm not even sure exactly what "full blown AIDS" means. Yes, some people are worse off than others, but the term itself is horribly out of date.
That is not accurate. HIV positive and AIDS is not the same. One leads to the other. The term "full blown AIDS" is a very current medical description for a person who's HIV has totally destroyed the immunity system and now the person has no protection from opportune germs that a normal immunity system can fight off. There is a lab value that will indicate when you are in "full blown AIDS", (I don't know the value off hand but it has to do with your T cell count.) I'm sorry, but you misread my sentence. I didn't say there was no difference between HIV-positive and AIDS - I said there is no "full blown AIDS" diagnosis. You have AIDS or you don't. You can have the HIV virus (that makes you HIV-positive) without having AIDS. FYI - a T-cell count below 200 OR the presence of an opportunisitic infection gives you an AIDS diagnosis. | |
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jackflash said: Reuben sandwich
Rye bread filled with sauerkraut, Swiss cheese and corned beef, smothered with a zesty sauce and broiled until golden.... INGREDIENTS: 1 tablespoon chili sauce 1/3 cup mayonnaise 8 slices rye bread 1/2 pound thinly sliced corned beef 1/2 pound sliced Swiss cheese 1 pound sauerkraut Preheat oven broiler. Mix chili sauce and mayonnaise until smooth. Spread mayonnaise mixture and butter on bread slices. Layer corned beef, Swiss and sauerkraut on 4 slices and top with remaining slices. Place on baking sheet under preheated broiler and broil until browned, turning once, 2 minutes.  I love these sandwiches and I am so glad that someone is finally spotlighting them.  | |
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Janfriend said: I don't understand why people are trippin' over my comment. Is AIDS something no one is allowed to talk about? This thread mentioned him having rapid weight loss and pneumonia. Anyone can have HIV/AIDS and I was not trying to be humorous with that remark. I was serious. You don't know his health history. There are people walking around with all kinds of diseases and you would NEVER know
Sorry; I think it was a rude and unnecessary suggestion/remark. No excuse. Just accept that there was no reason to introduce AIDS into this discussion and move on. Never trust anything spoken in the presence of an erection.
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RipHer2Shreds said: I'm sorry, but you misread my sentence. I didn't say there was no difference between HIV-positive and AIDS - I said there is no "full blown AIDS" diagnosis. You have AIDS or you don't. okay, I see what you are saying there is no "AIDS" and then "Full Blown AIDS". I think the term is still used in medical community to differentiate that the person has AIDS as opposed to being merely HIV positive or ARC syndrome which is like "pre -AIDS. I guess it can be misleading to the lay people to use that term. I took exception (wrongfully so) to your statement because I thougth you were down playing the seriousness of AIDS, the way (IMO) Magic Johnson does when discussing his illness. I don't want people to think that contracting AIDS is no longer a big deal. You will still die of AIDS, it just may take a little longer and your life will be much more unpleasant. Living 20 years with HIV is phenomenal but is happening more and more. Tell that to the 20 year old that just got diagnosed. (In other words, dying at 40 years old is terribly tragic). "nuff said. PS. thanks for clearing up the T cell lab value. I don't know it by heart, The lab test has the reference value listed with the result... hence no need to memorize it.  "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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