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Reply #30 posted 01/20/05 2:19pm

CynicKill

It might be safe to say that it isn't a big shock in the rap game for a female rapper to be gay. I mean there's really no room for a dainty, girly rapper is there? Not to say that lebians can't be dainty and girly (lipstick lesbians anyone?) but for the rough and tumble world of rap, who needs it?
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Reply #31 posted 01/20/05 2:36pm

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CynicKill said:

It might be safe to say that it isn't a big shock in the rap game for a female rapper to be gay. I mean there's really no room for a dainty, girly rapper is there? Not to say that lebians can't be dainty and girly (lipstick lesbians anyone?) but for the rough and tumble world of rap, who needs it?




actually the perception of women in Rap have changed drastically ever since the emergance of Lil'Kim who to me despite her lyrical content or lack of rather is very visually dainty to me anyway...her and Foxy Brown set the glamorous image for other females to follow...now most labels won't sign a female rapper unless she is dainty and sexed out...but back in the days you had butch chicks like Latifah,Lyte,Yo-Yo,Monie Love,Nikki D.,Heather B.,Bo$$,and Rage... who all had this butch/tomboy thing going on regardless of their orientation...
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Reply #32 posted 01/20/05 2:41pm

CynicKill

boriquateddy said:

CynicKill said:

It might be safe to say that it isn't a big shock in the rap game for a female rapper to be gay. I mean there's really no room for a dainty, girly rapper is there? Not to say that lebians can't be dainty and girly (lipstick lesbians anyone?) but for the rough and tumble world of rap, who needs it?




actually the perception of women in Rap have changed drastically ever since the emergance of Lil'Kim who to me despite her lyrical content or lack of rather is very visually dainty to me anyway...her and Foxy Brown set the glamorous image for other females to follow...now most labels won't sign a female rapper unless she is dainty and sexed out...but back in the days you had butch chicks like Latifah,Lyte,Yo-Yo,Monie Love,Nikki D.,Heather B.,Bo$$,and Rage... who all had this butch/tomboy thing going on regardless of their orientation...


I feel you but still there's nothing dainty about what comes out of L'il Kim and Foxy's mouth. They are pretty aggressive.
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Reply #33 posted 01/20/05 2:47pm

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CynicKill said:

boriquateddy said:





actually the perception of women in Rap have changed drastically ever since the emergance of Lil'Kim who to me despite her lyrical content or lack of rather is very visually dainty to me anyway...her and Foxy Brown set the glamorous image for other females to follow...now most labels won't sign a female rapper unless she is dainty and sexed out...but back in the days you had butch chicks like Latifah,Lyte,Yo-Yo,Monie Love,Nikki D.,Heather B.,Bo$$,and Rage... who all had this butch/tomboy thing going on regardless of their orientation...


I feel you but still there's nothing dainty about what comes out of L'il Kim and Foxy's mouth. They are pretty aggressive.




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Reply #34 posted 01/20/05 3:01pm

JANFAN4L

boriquateddy said:


of course those who are not ready to come out are going to deny it as untrue...


Ricky Martin...
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Reply #35 posted 01/20/05 3:01pm

dancerella

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CynicKill said:

Alicia has been fighting gay rumors since she first debuted.



1) there is no *fighting* involved.....its not a negative to be considered gay.. thank you.


2) keyes is a big ole bulldyke..aint no money (for glamour) in the world gonna fashion her into anything else.....



wow, you really think miss keys is a butch bitch? biggrin i highly doubt it. yes, she can be a bit dude-ish but i think she's straight!
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Reply #36 posted 01/20/05 3:04pm

CynicKill

dancerella said:

sosgemini said:




1) there is no *fighting* involved.....its not a negative to be considered gay.. thank you.


2) keyes is a big ole bulldyke..aint no money (for glamour) in the world gonna fashion her into anything else.....



wow, you really think miss keys is a butch bitch? biggrin i highly doubt it. yes, she can be a bit dude-ish but i think she's straight!


BTW can you post her tour dates? I can't get the site up and I'd chew off my own arm to score tickets if she's stopping by my neck-o-da-woods.
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Reply #37 posted 01/20/05 3:07pm

JANFAN4L

boriquateddy said:

CynicKill said:

It might be safe to say that it isn't a big shock in the rap game for a female rapper to be gay. I mean there's really no room for a dainty, girly rapper is there? Not to say that lebians can't be dainty and girly (lipstick lesbians anyone?) but for the rough and tumble world of rap, who needs it?




actually the perception of women in Rap have changed drastically ever since the emergance of Lil'Kim who to me despite her lyrical content or lack of rather is very visually dainty to me anyway...her and Foxy Brown set the glamorous image for other females to follow...now most labels won't sign a female rapper unless she is dainty and sexed out...


Li'l Kim = glamorous?
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Reply #38 posted 01/20/05 3:11pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

goat2004 said:

Where the hell have U been, Mars?

Da Brat has been rumored to be gay for years.

She had a relationship with Pam (this was documented) from the group Total back in the day. Pam is the girl in the group who looks masculine - she had the best voice.

Rumor has it that Puffy had to intervene with their relationship because of his concern for Total's image.

Good thing he intervened, cuz Total's blowin' up all over the place these days. Phew...glad that didn't have an impact on either of their careers.


lol lol lol LMFAO
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Reply #39 posted 01/20/05 3:12pm

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JANFAN4L said:

boriquateddy said:





actually the perception of women in Rap have changed drastically ever since the emergance of Lil'Kim who to me despite her lyrical content or lack of rather is very visually dainty to me anyway...her and Foxy Brown set the glamorous image for other females to follow...now most labels won't sign a female rapper unless she is dainty and sexed out...


Li'l Kim = glamorous?



whwn she first came out with the Junior Mafia she was on some Glam shit...rockin the fur coat...designer name dropping and all of that...all the endorsements...to an extent yeah...but I understand what your getting at.
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Reply #40 posted 01/20/05 3:14pm

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SOOOOO much to laugh @ on this thread! lol My 2 faves:

JANFAN4L said:

Li'l Kim = glamorous?


RipHer2Shreds said:

JANFAN4L said:

I hate to spread gossip, but I heard about this, too. They had a party at Roscoe's Chicken & Waffles when they were together.
falloff I'm sorry, but I can't take that last sentence seriously.


lol lol lol
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Reply #41 posted 01/20/05 3:15pm

Tom

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boriquateddy said:

I even remember her being linked to T-Boz back in 96 when they collaborated together...she even had been linked to Mariah.



alot of Female MC's have been rumored to be Gay....



MC Lyte was linked to Martin's Tachina Arnold


Queen Latifah was linked to R&B singer Monifah


Missy Elliot was linked to Trina


even Eve was rumored to be lesbian....not to mention alot of unknown ladies that people aren't familiar with Bahamadia,Lin Que,Champ from Deadly Venoms,The Conscious Daughters,Nefertiti...and numerous other's...


Queenpen let her tea be known when she came out with the help of Me'shell N'degeocello on her remake of "if thats your girlfriend".

even LA's Queen of the underground up and coming rapper Medusa has admitted to being bi.
[Edited 1/20/05 12:24pm]


Eve did a porn flick before she got famous, and if I remember it right, it was a lesbian scene.
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Reply #42 posted 01/20/05 3:16pm

CynicKill

Tom said:

boriquateddy said:

I even remember her being linked to T-Boz back in 96 when they collaborated together...she even had been linked to Mariah.



alot of Female MC's have been rumored to be Gay....



MC Lyte was linked to Martin's Tachina Arnold


Queen Latifah was linked to R&B singer Monifah


Missy Elliot was linked to Trina


even Eve was rumored to be lesbian....not to mention alot of unknown ladies that people aren't familiar with Bahamadia,Lin Que,Champ from Deadly Venoms,The Conscious Daughters,Nefertiti...and numerous other's...


Queenpen let her tea be known when she came out with the help of Me'shell N'degeocello on her remake of "if thats your girlfriend".

even LA's Queen of the underground up and coming rapper Medusa has admitted to being bi.
[Edited 1/20/05 12:24pm]


Eve did a porn flick before she got famous, and if I remember it right, it was a lesbian scene.


Urban legend. I'm still waiting to see the imfamous L'il Kim tape.
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Reply #43 posted 01/20/05 3:30pm

JANFAN4L

boriquateddy said:

JANFAN4L said:



Li'l Kim = glamorous?



whwn she first came out with the Junior Mafia she was on some Glam shit...rockin the fur coat...designer name dropping and all of that...all the endorsements...to an extent yeah...but I understand what your getting at.


Yeah. Owning the Louis Vuitton bag doesn't exactly mean you inherit the class.
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Reply #44 posted 01/20/05 3:40pm

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JANFAN4L said:

boriquateddy said:




whwn she first came out with the Junior Mafia she was on some Glam shit...rockin the fur coat...designer name dropping and all of that...all the endorsements...to an extent yeah...but I understand what your getting at.


Yeah. Owning the Louis Vuitton bag doesn't exactly mean you inherit the class.



yes Janfan4L I know this...but you have to admit they did push for a glamour girl image for her when she first came out...I am talking visually...not the stuff she rapped about...but all of us true heads always knew she was a hoodrat,bloomingdales boostin chick that BIG scooped up off track...
I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back.
I am not european. Europe lives in me, but I have no home there.
I am new. History made me. My first language was spanglish.
And I am
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Reply #45 posted 01/20/05 3:44pm

VoicesCarry

boriquateddy said:

JANFAN4L said:



Yeah. Owning the Louis Vuitton bag doesn't exactly mean you inherit the class.



yes Janfan4L I know this...but you have to admit they did push for a glamour girl image for her when she first came out...I am talking visually...not the stuff she rapped about...but all of us true heads always knew she was a hoodrat,bloomingdales boostin chick that BIG scooped up off track...


Everyone always knew she was ghetto. There wasn't any hiding that.
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Reply #46 posted 01/20/05 4:01pm

dragondayz

I think that Da Brat might be bisexual because she was also rumored to be dating Allen Iverson at one time.

I don't get all into the "she acts like a dude so she's gay" stereotype, and that's why I don't believe that Alicia is gay. Plus Alicia can be very pretty and lady-like at times
http://s7.yousendit.com/d...Z46I94VDNH so I think thats just a rumor. I think that it was just a rumor with Pam from Total too.

Btw, I saw Da Brat in person one time and her skin was flawless. She did have her ususal swagger or whatever but she's a very pretty girl.
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Reply #47 posted 01/20/05 4:24pm

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IF CRAWLING OUTTA MARIAH CAREY'S BUTT MAKES SOMEONE GAY...

Then yeah.
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Reply #48 posted 01/20/05 4:34pm

dancerella

dragondayz said:

I think that Da Brat might be bisexual because she was also rumored to be dating Allen Iverson at one time.

I don't get all into the "she acts like a dude so she's gay" stereotype, and that's why I don't believe that Alicia is gay. Plus Alicia can be very pretty and lady-like at times
http://s7.yousendit.com/d...Z46I94VDNH so I think thats just a rumor. I think that it was just a rumor with Pam from Total too.

Btw, I saw Da Brat in person one time and her skin was flawless. She did have her ususal swagger or whatever but she's a very pretty girl.
[Edited 1/20/05 16:03pm]



da brat actually has a beautiful face. there's an old video of hers when her hair is done nicely and she has a little make up on and i remember thinking how pretty she is.
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Reply #49 posted 01/20/05 5:20pm

Hotlegs

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CynicKill said:

Alicia has been fighting gay rumors since she first debuted.



1) there is no *fighting* involved.....its not a negative to be considered gay.. thank you.


2) keyes is a big ole bulldyke..aint no money (for glamour) in the world gonna fashion her into anything else.....


nod Agreed.
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Reply #50 posted 01/20/05 5:24pm

Hotlegs

dragondayz said:

I think that Da Brat might be bisexual because she was also rumored to be dating Allen Iverson at one time.



hmmm Perhaps, you have a point b/c nowadays anything goes.
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Reply #51 posted 01/20/05 6:49pm

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i remember when Janet Jackson had a lesbian affair with Bula Iitsbaulm in the mid 80's
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Reply #52 posted 01/20/05 7:42pm

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Da brat did go pretty a few years ago. In her video she was on the beach acting hetero like the salt n pepa video for shoop. Can anyone post a picture from that video or send my dumb dunce ass an orgnote on how to post pictuers.
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Reply #53 posted 01/20/05 8:22pm

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CynicKill said:

Tom said:



Eve did a porn flick before she got famous, and if I remember it right, it was a lesbian scene.


Urban legend. I'm still waiting to see the imfamous L'il Kim tape.


More like urban exxageration. Eve was a stripper back in the day. This dude posted an old pic of her back in the day (pre-stardom). She doesn't hide her past. She's admitted it in interviews. Foxy Brown contributed to the gay rumors about Eve in an interview with Wendy Williams. Then again, they were feuding at the time.
Why does everyone want to keep spreading the Alicia rumor? She's been with the same dude for yers now.

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Reply #54 posted 01/20/05 8:32pm

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To add a different perspective to this thread: some of the butchest women I know are straight, and some of the most feminine are gay or bisexual, including myself. So just because such-and-such lady rapper has a boyish swagger or doesn't wear much makeup, doesn't mean anything.



This whole reaction goes back to my ill-fated thread on Prince fans from a few days ago. A lot of the people saying "this chick has to be gay b/c she comes across as butch" are the same people who say Prince couldn't be anything but straight, despite his intense girliness.

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note: No, I am NOT saying Prince is gay. But anyone who actually bothered to read my entire post would've known that...
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Reply #55 posted 01/20/05 9:03pm

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Why does everyone want to keep spreading the Alicia rumor? She's been with the same dude for yers now.




yeah..and his name is Angela...

lol

sorry folks....even Elton John was married....Gavin Newsom was married for decades...There is a certain something about Keys...She doesnt come off natural at anything she does..it all seems rather forced...So i guess its easy for one to see through her "straight" act...

call it gaydar...call it intuition....but just remember, George Michael denied and lied about his sexuality..took him how long to admit it? One day we gonna wake up and read an article in the paper about Alicia trying to munch in a BK b-room...
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Reply #56 posted 01/20/05 9:10pm

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I have lesbian friends that consider themselves bulldaggers and they are not half as butch as Da Brat.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #57 posted 01/20/05 9:44pm

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sosgemini said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Why does everyone want to keep spreading the Alicia rumor? She's been with the same dude for yers now.




yeah..and his name is Angela...

lol

sorry folks....even Elton John was married....Gavin Newsom was married for decades...There is a certain something about Keys...She doesnt come off natural at anything she does..it all seems rather forced...So i guess its easy for one to see through her "straight" act...

call it gaydar...call it intuition....but just remember, George Michael denied and lied about his sexuality..took him how long to admit it? One day we gonna wake up and read an article in the paper about Alicia trying to munch in a BK b-room...


How many famous gay black music Stars can you name?...haddaway doesn't count... how many have come out the closet...? I'll piss my pants if any of the usual suspects of black closeted people we mention ever come out.
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Reply #58 posted 01/20/05 10:45pm

CinisterCee

boriquateddy said:

I even remember her being linked to T-Boz back in 96 when they collaborated together...she even had been linked to Mariah.


HOLD THE PHONE, T-BOZ AND MARIAH ARE LESBIANS? razz
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Reply #59 posted 01/20/05 11:56pm

Hotlegs

sosgemini said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Why does everyone want to keep spreading the Alicia rumor? She's been with the same dude for yers now.




yeah..and his name is Angela...

lol

sorry folks....even Elton John was married....Gavin Newsom was married for decades...There is a certain something about Keys...She doesnt come off natural at anything she does..it all seems rather forced...So i guess its easy for one to see through her "straight" act...

call it gaydar...call it intuition....but just remember, George Michael denied and lied about his sexuality..took him how long to admit it? One day we gonna wake up and read an article in the paper about Alicia trying to munch in a BK b-room...


nod
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