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Thread started 01/19/05 10:27pm

twink69

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Mariah's "It's like that" IS BLOWING UP?!

Mariah's new track is her biggest hit in years!
Just a little over two weeks since its premiere at radio, Carey’s new single “It’s Like That” has accumulated more airplay than all of Charmbracelet’s singles combined. This has merited the singer the title of Billboard’s Hot Shot Debut, where “It’s Like That” makes its bow at No. 53 on the Hot 100 singles chart. Over on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop singles chart, the tune moves to No. 44 after debuting last week at No. 58, the highest new entry for the singer in more than five years.

subsequent flop of her movie and soundtrack Glitter, and the bevy of bad press that followed, the one-time reigning “princess of pop” was put in a unique, albeit tough, position both career-wise and personally.

Although Glitter, the edgy and upbeat soundtrack album, was generally celebrated among critics (Rolling Stone dubbed the concept record “a big step forward in terms of maturity”), the negative reviews for the banal and downtrodden film of the same name were harsh enough to send Carey into the opposite musical direction.

The result was 2002’s Charmbracelet, a mellow and mostly un-inventive release touted as a return-to-form to the superdiva’s mid-1990 balladeering days. The album was introduced with “Through The Rain”, a conventional and sparsely-produced tune about overcoming adversity. Carey’s record label undoubtedly thought the inspirational ditty would remind listeners of past hits like 1993’s “Hero”, but the music industry’s acceptance of swooping ballads had greatly changed, and the single stalled at an unimpressive No. 81 on Billboard magazine’s Hot 100 singles chart.

Though Charmbracelet certainly had its standout moments, the record’s follow-up singles “Boy (I Need You)” and “Bringin’ On The Heartbreak” faced an even worse fate than “Through The Rain” at radio outlets, receiving minimal play and little fanfare. Things were certainly looking bleak for the once-invincible songstress, but Carey took the setbacks with stride and is now finding herself on the brink of a major comeback.

"It's Like that" is officially released to radio staions on Jan 25th.
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Reply #1 posted 01/19/05 10:37pm

VinnyM27

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She's evil, but I guess she's learned her lesson!
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Reply #2 posted 01/20/05 4:11am

DavidEye

The song is crap,which of course means that it will become a huge hit lol
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Reply #3 posted 01/20/05 4:17am

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DavidEye said:

The song is crap,which of course means that it will become a huge hit lol


It's not her best, but still no matter what u say about her she has one thing that other pop singers don't have "A VOICE" and that my friend is something that no publicist, re invention, boob pooping, 55 hour wedding, big arse or pro tool can compensate


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Reply #4 posted 01/20/05 4:19am

DavidEye

twink69 said:

DavidEye said:

The song is crap,which of course means that it will become a huge hit lol


It's not her best, but still no matter what u say about her she has one thing that other pop singers don't have "A VOICE" and that my friend is something that no publicist, re invention, or boob pooping can compensate



She's an incredible singer.But lately,she's been wasting her talent on second-rate material.But hey,if you like the new song,then more power to you!

lol
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Reply #5 posted 01/20/05 4:31am

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DavidEye said:

twink69 said:



It's not her best, but still no matter what u say about her she has one thing that other pop singers don't have "A VOICE" and that my friend is something that no publicist, re invention, or boob pooping can compensate



She's an incredible singer.But lately,she's been wasting her talent on second-rate material.But hey,if you like the new song,then more power to you!

lol


Who said anything about liking it? It's a pile of shit at the best but hey it's what radio wants and what better way to get attention for a new album? I'm not going to judge an album on it's radio promo.

It just funny people on here are quick hate on her and her music and turn around praise other artists who release weaker material, have lesser talent and pale in her success?
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Reply #6 posted 01/20/05 4:33am

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I was just listening to Damita Jo and realised that "It's like that" sounds like "Strawberry Bounce"
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Reply #7 posted 01/20/05 4:38am

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twink69 said:

I was just listening to Damita Jo and realised that "It's like that" sounds like "Strawberry Bounce"


so basically you're saying that the Janet song is crap too? lol
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Reply #8 posted 01/20/05 4:38am

VoicesCarry

DavidEye said:

The song is crap,which of course means that it will become a huge hit lol


My sentiments exactly!
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Reply #9 posted 01/20/05 4:45am

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VoicesCarry said:

DavidEye said:

The song is crap,which of course means that it will become a huge hit lol


My sentiments exactly!


VC you don't like anything from any singer that has more than 1 octave, sorry it's not as good as anything by Kylie or Paula Abdul or the vocal pro tool power house that is Janet
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Reply #10 posted 01/20/05 4:55am

VoicesCarry

twink69 said:

VoicesCarry said:



My sentiments exactly!


VC you don't like anything from any singer that has more than 1 octave, sorry it's not as good as anything by Kylie or Paula Abdul or the vocal pro tool power house that is Janet


Oh, honey, STFU and stop bullshitting about musical taste if other people don't like your precious Mariah, k?
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Reply #11 posted 01/20/05 5:41am

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twink69 said:

DavidEye said:

The song is crap,which of course means that it will become a huge hit lol


It's not her best, but still no matter what u say about her she has one thing that other pop singers don't have "A VOICE" and that my friend is something that no publicist, re invention, boob pooping, 55 hour wedding, big arse or pro tool can compensate


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Correction - she had a voice, and a nice one at that. Her problem (well, one of them) has alwyas been that she doesn't know how to use her voice well. Early on she was too much of a showboater, and now she whispers everything so that you can't understand a word she says.
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Reply #12 posted 01/20/05 5:59am

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RipHer2Shreds said:

twink69 said:



It's not her best, but still no matter what u say about her she has one thing that other pop singers don't have "A VOICE" and that my friend is something that no publicist, re invention, boob pooping, 55 hour wedding, big arse or pro tool can compensate


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Correction - she had a voice, and a nice one at that. Her problem (well, one of them) has alwyas been that she doesn't know how to use her voice well. Early on she was too much of a showboater, and now she whispers everything so that you can't understand a word she says.


Many people agree that she's lost her voice recently (drugs and or alcohol are said to be possible factors).
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Reply #13 posted 01/20/05 6:05am

VoicesCarry

VinnyM27 said:

RipHer2Shreds said:


Correction - she had a voice, and a nice one at that. Her problem (well, one of them) has alwyas been that she doesn't know how to use her voice well. Early on she was too much of a showboater, and now she whispers everything so that you can't understand a word she says.


Many people agree that she's lost her voice recently (drugs and or alcohol are said to be possible factors).


Speak up, you're whispering! wink
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Reply #14 posted 01/20/05 6:27pm

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VoicesCarry said:

twink69 said:



VC you don't like anything from any singer that has more than 1 octave, sorry it's not as good as anything by Kylie or Paula Abdul or the vocal pro tool power house that is Janet


Oh, honey, STFU and stop bullshitting about musical taste if other people don't like your precious Mariah, k?


I'm just pointing out that you have whack taste in music? seriusly u think Mariah can't sing anymore and Alicia Keys is over rated but think SPELLBOUND by Paula and Janet are not? get a grip and get some taste u camp queen lol and no I'm not here to argue over who has better musical taste because that is obvious so go have wank over ur "PRO TOOLS DIVA" and get a lesson in what real music is.

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Reply #15 posted 01/20/05 11:12pm

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twink69, that sounded sooooo pretentious lol
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Reply #16 posted 01/21/05 2:22am

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CinisterCee said:

twink69, that sounded sooooo pretentious lol


I know right!
I'm like a bitch on heat sometimes I swear.
Just pointing out though that people on here hate on real singer/songwriters like Mariah and Alicia & Beyonce but lose their mind over Janet, Paula & Madonna seriouly it's just wrong and stupid

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Reply #17 posted 01/21/05 3:35am

VoicesCarry

twink69 said:

VoicesCarry said:



Oh, honey, STFU and stop bullshitting about musical taste if other people don't like your precious Mariah, k?


I'm just pointing out that you have whack taste in music? seriusly u think Mariah can't sing anymore and Alicia Keys is over rated but think SPELLBOUND by Paula and Janet are not? get a grip and get some taste u camp queen lol and no I'm not here to argue over who has better musical taste because that is obvious so go have wank over ur "PRO TOOLS DIVA" and get a lesson in what real music is.

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How ironic, since ProTools was used to create "It's Like That".

I start ONE Paula Abdul thread and now I'm her BIGGEST FAN EVER? Twinky, you've gone mentally Mariah.

A simple visit to my profile reveals:

Favorite (other)
artists: Marvin Gaye (+ Tammi Terrell by default), Stevie Wonder, Madonna, Janet Jackson, Kylie Minogue, Lisa Stansfield, Donna Summer, Michael Jackson (only Off The Wall, Thriller & Bad), The Supremes, The Temptations, Diana Ross, The Four Tops, Smokey Robinson & The Miracles, Mary Wells, Martha Reeves & The Vandellas, Eurythmics, Annie Lennox, Aretha Franklin, Fleetwood Mac, Stevie Nicks, Tears For Fears, Culture Club, The Police, Tina Turner (+ Ike & Tina), Tracy Chapman, Hall & Oates (+ Daryl Hall), Cyndi Lauper, Carly Simon, ABBA, Aaliyah, 'Til Tuesday, David Bowie, Kate Bush

Whack taste in music indeed.

Bashing someone because they don't like your idol's new shit stain of a song reflects poorly on you, not them.
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Reply #18 posted 01/21/05 4:55am

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twink69 said:

Just pointing out though that people on here hate on real singer/songwriters like Mariah and Alicia & Beyonce



whofarted "I need a sugar daddy...(dogwhistles)...I need a sugar daddy... (straight jacks an entire Tom Tom Club song)... It's prismatic!"

Seriously, just because someone has a decent voice doesn't mean that they have something to say with it. Mariah Carey is one of the most vapid pop stars of all time; Beyonce isn't too far behind, she wants to be the J-Lo of 03/04/05.
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Reply #19 posted 01/21/05 4:59am

DavidEye

Axchi696 said:

twink69 said:

Just pointing out though that people on here hate on real singer/songwriters like Mariah and Alicia & Beyonce



whofarted "I need a sugar daddy...(dogwhistles)...I need a sugar daddy... (straight jacks an entire Tom Tom Club song)... It's prismatic!"

Seriously, just because someone has a decent voice doesn't mean that they have something to say with it. Mariah Carey is one of the most vapid pop stars of all time; Beyonce isn't too far behind, she wants to be the J-Lo of 03/04/05.



Exactly! I like Mariah and I think she's an amazing singer.But what good is a fantastic voice if you're wasting it on boring,predictable R&B crap that sounds like everything else on the radio?
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Reply #20 posted 01/21/05 4:59am

VoicesCarry

Axchi696 said:

twink69 said:

Just pointing out though that people on here hate on real singer/songwriters like Mariah and Alicia & Beyonce



whofarted "I need a sugar daddy...(dogwhistles)...I need a sugar daddy... (straight jacks an entire Tom Tom Club song)... It's prismatic!"

Seriously, just because someone has a decent voice doesn't mean that they have something to say with it. Mariah Carey is one of the most vapid pop stars of all time; Beyonce isn't too far behind, she wants to be the J-Lo of 03/04/05.


And Alicia steals many of her hooks and melodies. Some world-class songwriter disbelief.
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Reply #21 posted 01/21/05 5:04am

VoicesCarry

DavidEye said:

Axchi696 said:




whofarted "I need a sugar daddy...(dogwhistles)...I need a sugar daddy... (straight jacks an entire Tom Tom Club song)... It's prismatic!"

Seriously, just because someone has a decent voice doesn't mean that they have something to say with it. Mariah Carey is one of the most vapid pop stars of all time; Beyonce isn't too far behind, she wants to be the J-Lo of 03/04/05.



Exactly! I like Mariah and I think she's an amazing singer.But what good is a fantastic voice if you're wasting it on boring,predictable R&B crap that sounds like everything else on the radio?


I think you must have whack taste in music, too, DavidEye, considering we agree on so many artists!
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Reply #22 posted 01/21/05 9:39am

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VoicesCarry said:

Axchi696 said:




whofarted "I need a sugar daddy...(dogwhistles)...I need a sugar daddy... (straight jacks an entire Tom Tom Club song)... It's prismatic!"

Seriously, just because someone has a decent voice doesn't mean that they have something to say with it. Mariah Carey is one of the most vapid pop stars of all time; Beyonce isn't too far behind, she wants to be the J-Lo of 03/04/05.


And Alicia steals many of her hooks and melodies. Some world-class songwriter disbelief.



Well, my take on this is when you purchase a Mariah Carey album, (like the underrated Charmbraclet) that has some classic Mariah style ballads like Through The rain and Bringing on the Heartbreak, Radio doesn't give a shit but hardcore mariah fans love it. So now she finally has a song with enough bounce to please radio and the younger listeners plus you will find some classic mariah on the new album. I betcha Whitney (I love her to) couldn't come back like mariah has? Mariah doesn't have shit to prove anymore. And now she has proven that she can have another top 10 Pop single...
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Reply #23 posted 01/21/05 9:46am

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goat2004 said:

And now she has proven that she can have another top 10 Pop single...


She already proved that with:


Baby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got itBaby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got itBaby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got itBaby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got itBaby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got it

melisma

Baby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got itBaby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got itBaby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got itBaby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got itBaby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got itBaby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got itBaby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got it
Baby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got itBaby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got itBaby if you gBaby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got it
Give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got it

melisma
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Reply #24 posted 01/21/05 10:03am

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Axchi696 said:

goat2004 said:

And now she has proven that she can have another top 10 Pop single...


She already proved that with:


Baby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got itBaby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got itBaby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got itBaby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got itBaby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got it

melisma

Baby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got itBaby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got itBaby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got itBaby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got itBaby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got itBaby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got itBaby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got it
Baby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got itBaby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got itBaby if you gBaby if you give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got it
Give it to me, I'll give it to you I know what you want You know i Got it

melisma
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LOL, that's a Busta Rhymes song. Mariah is only on the chorus. So officially it counts as a Busta Rhytmes top 10 single. U R too funny - including every line in her chorous. LOL When I saw your response, I was like, WTF is this! smile
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Reply #25 posted 01/21/05 10:07am

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THAT NEW SONG IS HOT GARBAGE.

When Mariah started following trends and recording with every tom, dick and harry is when i stopped listening to her.
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Reply #26 posted 01/21/05 10:11am

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goat2004 said:

VoicesCarry said:



And Alicia steals many of her hooks and melodies. Some world-class songwriter disbelief.



Well, my take on this is when you purchase a Mariah Carey album, (like the underrated Charmbraclet) that has some classic Mariah style ballads like Through The rain and Bringing on the Heartbreak, Radio doesn't give a shit but hardcore mariah fans love it. So now she finally has a song with enough bounce to please radio and the younger listeners plus you will find some classic mariah on the new album. I betcha Whitney (I love her to) couldn't come back like mariah has? Mariah doesn't have shit to prove anymore. And now she has proven that she can have another top 10 Pop single...


In the current climate you consider that an achievement? Really?

Have you read the lyrics to this song? Atrocious. disbelief She has only proven to me that she hasn't halted her decline into substandard pop-R&B mishmash. I know she can do so much better than this claptrap.
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Reply #27 posted 01/21/05 10:18am

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It's not a good song.
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Reply #28 posted 01/21/05 12:01pm

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You guys are still missing the point, for all ur critism of people like Mariah, Alicia and Beyonce' they are still and always be far more superior than the artist u guys think are better than them, "It's like tha" is not her best but is still a better performance Janet or Paula or Madonna will ever deliver
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Reply #29 posted 01/21/05 12:11pm

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Damn! eek It's getting hot up in here! lol
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