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What If Teena Was... Does anybody think that Teena would be more revered for her musical contribution to R&B/Soul if she was black?
Feelings? | |
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violator said: Does anybody think that Teena would be more revered for her musical contribution to R&B/Soul if she was black?
Feelings? Color has nothing to do with being talented, Teena fell into that because she was pigenholed solely because this is the music she grew up on was influenced by. | |
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I believe she said in Vibe a couple of moths back that Berry Gordy did her first album without any pictures to see the result and i completely agree with Finess on the color thing | |
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ABeautifulOne said: I believe she said in Vibe a couple of moths back that Berry Gordy did her first album without any pictures to see the result and i completely agree with Finess on the color thing That's right. Teena's first album was released with no pictures of herself for fear that if people knew she was white, they wouldn't buy it. When they did find out she was white, they could care less. Teena proves that real talent is colorless. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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But she never got the recognition she deserved outside of the black community... when I bring her up to my white friends, they go, "Teena who?" Teena is 10x more talented than almost any female singer I can name White or Black. And Madonna had the nerve to diss her a few years back. | |
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sdekm1 said: But she never got the recognition she deserved outside of the black community... when I bring her up to my white friends, they go, "Teena who?" Teena is 10x more talented than almost any female singer I can name White or Black. And Madonna had the nerve to diss her a few years back.
I agree with you 100%. I'm Teena obsessive but refuse to comment on the race issue as it has nothing to do with how much I enjoy music, regardless of skin color. But none my light-skinned friends know what she's all about. I could get into this and open a whole new can of beans, but I won't. BUT Madogna had the nerve to diss Teena? Not that she would have a clue what she was talking about, but what did the fossil say? Madonna is so tired I can't believe the media and people still fawn over every one of her farts. After all, Madonna would probably bet Britney is the best artist to ever live. | |
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madonna dissed teena marie?
oh lordy....what did Sandy B say? "Dont fuck with the true sistas!!" *walks away mumbling about fronting british accents and looking more like a witch with each passing year something something Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: madonna dissed teena marie?
oh lordy....what did Sandy B say? "Dont fuck with the true sistas!!" *walks away mumbling about fronting british accents and looking more like a witch with each passing year something something Gemini where have you been all my life? | |
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EmeraldCity said: some cool stuff I love Teena as well -- but there were white people at my high school who knew her by name, so her appeal transcended the black community. I'm really responding to say I like the name you chose -- Emerald City is one of my favorite albums by Teena, and one of three CDs I have of hers. | |
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todd305 said: EmeraldCity said: some cool stuff I love Teena as well -- but there were white people at my high school who knew her by name, so her appeal transcended the black community. I'm really responding to say I like the name you chose -- Emerald City is one of my favorite albums by Teena, and one of three CDs I have of hers. Thanks! Emerald City is the album of hers that is more of a soundtrack to my life. It has so much meaning to me. My bass matches the paisley print of her Telecaster pictured on the cover which was a limited vintage reissue. I was lucky enough to find one in time to get it. No one's music tugs at my soul like Teena can. | |
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EmeraldCity said: todd305 said: I love Teena as well -- but there were white people at my high school who knew her by name, so her appeal transcended the black community. I'm really responding to say I like the name you chose -- Emerald City is one of my favorite albums by Teena, and one of three CDs I have of hers. Thanks! Emerald City is the album of hers that is more of a soundtrack to my life. It has so much meaning to me. My bass matches the paisley print of her Telecaster pictured on the cover which was a limited vintage reissue. I was lucky enough to find one in time to get it. No one's music tugs at my soul like Teena can. so please please dont take away my..... sunny skies..... sunny skies..... ieee ieee ieee ieeesssss..... Space for sale... | |
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Back when T had a "crossover" hit with Lovergirl.... Madonna said that she didn't deserve to be in the top ten, that Teena was just one of Rick James girls.... in other words one of his talentless bimbos. It made me hate Madonna even more than I already did at that point.... She doesn't have a speck of T's skills. | |
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I have All her releases but one..... No Teena collection is complete without Irons in the fire or It must be magic | |
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sdekm1 said: Back when T had a "crossover" hit with Lovergirl.... Madonna said that she didn't deserve to be in the top ten, that Teena was just one of Rick James girls.... in other words one of his talentless bimbos. It made me hate Madonna even more than I already did at that point.... She doesn't have a speck of T's skills.
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sdekm1 said: No Teena collection is complete without Irons in the fire or It must be magic
Madogna. This 'cradle robbing' hag got me starting a 'revolution' What nerve. If I was a lip-syncher I wouldn't even have the balls to comment on someone else's sanging. And Irons in the Fire has some straight fonkay ones! Tune In Tomorrow displays her flawless pipes like no one's business. The drums in You Make Love Like Springtime hit the spot, and Chhhaaaaainnnnnss! You got me locked in chains! First, first class love I'm gonna make you feel it! This week will be all-Teena, all the time in this house. Too bad I have everything but Wild & Peaceful Thank you for the info sdekm1 | |
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EmeraldCity said: sdekm1 said: No Teena collection is complete without Irons in the fire or It must be magic
Madogna. This 'cradle robbing' hag got me starting a 'revolution' What nerve. If I was a lip-syncher I wouldn't even have the balls to comment on someone else's sanging. And Irons in the Fire has some straight fonkay ones! Tune In Tomorrow displays her flawless pipes like no one's business. The drums in You Make Love Like Springtime hit the spot, and Chhhaaaaainnnnnss! You got me locked in chains! First, first class love I'm gonna make you feel it! This week will be all-Teena, all the time in this house. Too bad I have everything but Wild & Peaceful Thank you for the info sdekm1 Ya gotta get Wild.... It's got Deva vu on it!!!!! | |
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Madonna ain't got shit on Lady T..... I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back. I am not european. Europe lives in me, but I have no home there. I am new. History made me. My first language was spanglish. And I am | |
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I think that Teena Marie really won African-Americans over when she started singing about collard greens and hot water cornbread. Go Tina! Itz ya berfday! | |
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dreamfactory313 said: I think that Teena Marie really won African-Americans over when she started singing about collard greens and hot water cornbread. Go Tina! Itz ya berfday!
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Teena is a BLACK WOMAN at heart I don't care what anybody says, she knows she's a sista.
She grew up with the sistas, encountered with their pain and drew it from the same place as them, ate with the same table with them, gone to the same church and seen the same bullshit. And you know she can't help it coz the girl grew up in LA's Black Venice Maddy should shut her messy flatt-low ass up and sit down somewhere | |
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Teena Marie is TOO TIGHT!!!! Im surprised that no one has commented on how CIARA has interpolated parts of the rap from SQAURE BIZ in her latest song
Now back to the race thing with Teena Marie...unfortunately when Teena came out, music was VERY segregated..I know a lot of white people that think of her as a one hit wonder because they think that LOVERGIRL was her only hit..... Had Teena been black, I think she would have been revered just the same BECAUSE female musicians are truly rare then and god knows now...I think the credit she is getting is justly deserved | |
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sdekm1 said: But she never got the recognition she deserved outside of the black community... when I bring her up to my white friends, they go, "Teena who?" Teena is 10x more talented than almost any female singer I can name White or Black. And Madonna had the nerve to diss her a few years back. I've always admired and looked up to Teena for going after the black audience first and could care less if she crossed over. People love to praise Vanilla Ice and Eminem but Teena was the first and unlike the other two, she had talent. They have it easy because now it's "trendy" for a white artist to go after the black audience, Teena did it when it wasn't and she didn't give a damn either. [Edited 1/9/05 10:07am] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Harlepolis said: Teena is a BLACK WOMAN at heart I don't care what anybody says, she knows she's a sista.
She grew up with the sistas, encountered with their pain and drew it from the same place as them, ate with the same table with them, gone to the same church and seen the same bullshit. And you know she can't help it coz the girl grew up in LA's Black Venice Maddy should shut her messy flatt-low ass up and sit down somewhere I totally agree. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: I've always admired and looked up to Teena for going after the black audience first and could care less if she crossed over. People love to praise Vanilla Ice and Eminem but Teena was the first and unlike the other two, she had talent. They have it easy because now it's "trendy" for a white artist to go after the black audience, Teena did it when it wasn't and she didn't give a damn either. [Edited 1/9/05 10:07am] Not only that VAINANDY, did u read the credits to her IT MUST BE MAGIC album where she was saying how she had to suffer for her love of black music..she used to be chased down the road when she was in junior high being called a "ni**er lover" because she hung with blacks and liked their music... so she suffered for what she does....musically | |
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Also, her parents didn't understand why she was singing the way she did. They wanted her to sing like Barbara Streisand. If you've been following her career like I have you would know that when she was younger she didn't talked too much on her personal life. I mean, she played coy about her relationship with Rick James for years, but we knew... But, last year, she opened up about her father in an interview with Sister to Sister Magazine. Here's part of it--
*No, the man she's talking about is not Rick James* Jamie: How come you never married? Teena: Because the one person that I really, really wanted to marry...my family pulled us apart when I was really young. There has never been any man that I ever ran across that I can compare to him. And I still love him to this day. He's one of my best friends. Jamie: Did he eventually marry someone else? Teena: Yes, we were 19 and 20 and my family at that particular time in my life was not at all with the Black and White Thing. We were very much in love. Right at the height of everything that was going on, my father died. And my father died on a very bad note with me. (Teena dedicated her first album to her father, Thomas Leslie Brockert). Jamie: What happened when you introduced your Black boyfriend to your father? Teena: When I introduced him to this man my father didn't shake his hand. My father died of a heart attack. Some of the people in my family said I killed my father and it really sent me into a really bad mental thing. And eventually our relationship couldn't hold up at that particular time. But I have compared every man I've met to him and found that they were all wanting. He was the love of my life! -S- [Edited 1/9/05 14:12pm] | |
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Sarai said: Also, her parents didn't understand why she was singing the way she did. They wanted her to sing like Barbara Streisand. If you've been following her career like I have you would know that when she was younger she didn't talked too much on her personal life. I mean, she played coy about her relationship with Rick James for years, but we knew... But, last year, she opened up about her father in an interview with Sister to Sister Magazine. Here's part of it--
*No, the man she's talking about is not Rick James* Jamie: How come you never married? Teena: Because the one person that I really, really wanted to marry...my family pulled us apart when I was really young. There has never been any man that I ever ran across that I can compare to him. And I still love him to this day. He's one of my best friends. Jamie: Did he eventually marry someone else? Teena: Yes, we were 19 and 20 and my family at that particular time in my life was not at all with the Black and White Thing. We were very much in love. Right at the height of everything that was going on, my father died. And my father died on a very bad note with me. (Teena dedicated her first album to her father, Thomas Leslie Brockert). Jamie: What happened when you introduced your Black boyfriend to your father? Teena: When I introduced him to this man my father didn't shake his hand. My father died of a heart attack. Some of the people in my family said I killed my father and it really sent me into a really bad mental thing. And eventually our relationship couldn't hold up at that particular time. But I have compared every man I've met to him and found that they were all wanting. He was the love of my life! -S- [Edited 1/9/05 14:12pm] | |
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so sad | |
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ABeautifulOne said: so sad
that is very sad..very sad wow I wonder if thats where a bit of ASK YO MAMA came from | |
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vainandy said: I've always admired and looked up to Teena for going after the black audience first and could care less if she crossed over. People love to praise Vanilla Ice and Eminem but Teena was the first and unlike the other two, she had talent. They have it easy because now it's "trendy" for a white artist to go after the black audience, Teena did it when it wasn't and she didn't give a damn either. [Edited 1/9/05 10:07am] Hey, now! Eminem has some talent. He's paid some dues too. You can't really fake it with a "black audience". Vanilla Ice may have never had any cred with the hip-hop crowd but Eminem does-- though he seems to be giving it away. | |
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DigitalGardin said: vainandy said: I've always admired and looked up to Teena for going after the black audience first and could care less if she crossed over. People love to praise Vanilla Ice and Eminem but Teena was the first and unlike the other two, she had talent. They have it easy because now it's "trendy" for a white artist to go after the black audience, Teena did it when it wasn't and she didn't give a damn either. [Edited 1/9/05 10:07am] Not only that VAINANDY, did u read the credits to her IT MUST BE MAGIC album where she was saying how she had to suffer for her love of black music..she used to be chased down the road when she was in junior high being called a "ni**er lover" because she hung with blacks and liked their music... so she suffered for what she does....musically "It Must Be Magic" was the first Teena Marie album I ever bought. I remember reading the back cover. That's one of the things that attracted me to her because I was going through the same thing myself at the time. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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