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JOSS STONE V ALICIA KEYS I think Joss Stone might have more soul than Alicia Keys??!!
Both are very different and we are luck y to have them. They blow my mind. I'd like them both.....  | |
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COMON said: I think Joss Stone might have more soul than Alicia Keys??!!
Both are very different and we are luck y to have them. They blow my mind. I'd like them both..... Neither has soul. Both of them of pop stars who want to play real Soul music. Actually Teena Marie got more soul than both of them put together period hands down in my opinion. | |
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Hotlegs , I am stunned by your reply! ! But rest assured I will be checking outTeena Marie | |
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Joss can sing, but I don't feel anything in her voice. | |
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COMON said: Hotlegs , I am stunned by your reply! ! But rest assured I will be checking outTeena Marie
You got to keep in mind that Teena was a protogee and ex of Rick James. She is the real deal and is nothing to play with for sure. | |
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grrrrr.....I don;t like either of them, but if I had to choose, I'd pick Alicia. "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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I like them both the same I guess.  Just a matter of time before they duet anyways. But I prefer Joss a bit more. | |
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Have you guys seen the JOss Stone DVD? Its WAY better than ONA Las Vegas and Alicia ain't done one.
Watch Joss's DVD and tell me she ain't got soul.! | |
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musicman said: Joss can sing, but I don't feel anything in her voice.
 she's just "singing". Especially when she first came out, she was what, only 16? A 16 yr. old singing songs that real women should be singing kinda irks me. And with Alicia..I feel that she is highly overrated. It's like she's trying too hard to imitate the soul singers from the past. And everyone acts as if she's the savior of music today just because she plays the piano. looking for you in the woods tonight Switch FC SW-2874-2863-4789 (Rum&Coke) | |
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Both suck. All that vocal gymnastic shit annoys me. So it's soul if they can well sing right? Never mind if the song is just average though?
Mariah is good when she is not doing all her OTT shit. But she often does too. even Beyonce has to do it.....wow u got real soul because u can scream like a bitch. | |
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Alicia's overrated, but she's still better than Joss, who sounds like some misguided choirgirl trying to ape Aretha Franklin and failing miserably in the process. | |
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thesexofit said: Both suck. All that vocal gymnastic shit annoys me. So it's soul if they can well sing right? Never mind if the song is just average though?
Mariah is good when she is not doing all her OTT shit. But she often does too. even Beyonce has to do it.....wow u got real soul because u can scream like a bitch. I agree your comments about Stone and Keys both sucking. Eventhough Mariah and Beyonce are divas to thier heart, we know that at least their asses can sing unlike Stone and Keyes. | |
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Well, "Casper" aka (Teena Marie) hands down for me...But, this is a Joss Stone vs Alicia Keys' thread, right? So, I will have to choose Alicia Keys. Joss isn't bad, but dang, why is her voice so raspy? I really do not get the comparison between Teena and Joss that a lot of folks have been making. She sounds more like Taylor Dane to me than Teena. What do you all think?
PS If I had to choose who sings a better rendition of Alicia Keys' "If I Ain't Got You" - Alicia Keys or Teena's 13-year-old daughter, Alia Rose. It would be Teena's daughter. I'm not kidding that kid has got it goin' on, for real! | |
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I like both, but I prefer Joss. She has a better voice, but Alicia a good muscian.
. [Edited 1/16/05 20:29pm] Did you order a pizza ma'am? Prince- UTCM | |
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Alicia's a good musician, but Joss Stone has an incredible voice. Anyone who says otherwise is just hatin', because they have nothing better to do with their time. She's got a soulful voice, and I can only hope that her music continues to get better as her career progresses. | |
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you can't even compare either of them to Queen Teena. God. I think Joss Stone will grow into a great artist. Time will tell. Until then, go listen to Joss's track "Dirty Man" right fucking now. Then come back here and tell me she ain't got potential. Keep your headphones on. | |
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Alicia Keys by a mile for me. | |
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I hate when I start a thread asking everyone to choose between two performers and then someone throws a third person into the mix and everyone starts talking about that third person instead. | |
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Answer the following:
POOP is to DOOKIE as CRAP is to _____? Correct answer is: SHIT, or yes, 
As you can see this is a no win situation and I rest my case. At least Alicia is photogenic. | |
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They both spend too much time trying to act black and trying to act retro. | |
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I don't know why people have conversations about Joss Stone?    I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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Joss Stone = product marketed to white folks with the intent of using the race card for support (aka the Elvis/Eminem syndrome) "If we can get the blacks to validate her, she can get soul props which give her sooper-cool points which translates into record sales!"-----some record exec. She can sing; but so can Monica and a whole host of other sistas on the charts as well as any youth choir singer in any Baptist chruch across the country. The "white factor" makes her seem special, but really she's not. As far as I can tell, she's on the same level as Fergie from Black Eyed Peas and Anastascia.
Alicia Keys - poor little mixed girl from Brooklyn - another product of marketing. Pop product with an edge. She's "street", she can sing and get this...she's a "classically trained" (insert other buzzwords here) pianist. She's talented. Anyone who says otherwise is jealous or lying to themselves. A decent singer, but again - nothing incredible as a vocalist. Her "training" is her undoing. Structure rules her music and restrains her creatively; well, that and the label geeks demanding a hit from her every 30 seconds. She's really hip hop at heart, she just happens to have talent in another genre. I've never seen an artist try so hard to infuse hip-hop into pop/R&B and fail so miserably at it. She's got all of the puzzle pieces, she's just not bright enough to figure out where they go. Also, white males are controlling both thier careers. No wonder they seem so fucked up. Clive knows how to pick 'em, but what happens from there is usually a disaster these days. I just hope both these young women can juice these fools for all they can get. They are product. If Alicia Keys looked like Fantasia from American "Idle", she wouldn't have a record deal. If Joss was dark-skinned and "nappy headed", she wouldn't have a record deal either. They sign pin-ups these days and will occasionally sign pure talent (Peep: Lizz Wright)out of guilt and demand from the public. Both of these women have skillz, yet neither is so vastly talented that they merit being called "special". Not special like Miles Davis was to jazz or like Aretha Franklin is to R&B, at least. Essentially, they will both be out of a career in 5 to 8 years if they don't make a mark in some way other than in CD sales. You gotta move hearts to truly stay relevant. | |
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EverlastingNow said: Alicia Keys by a mile for me.
 "...took my sex and my money...took all my self esteem...had the nerve 2 think it was funny...i never knew a bitch so mean" | |
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BlaqueKnight said: Joss Stone = product marketed to white folks with the intent of using the race card for support (aka the Elvis/Eminem syndrome) "If we can get the blacks to validate her, she can get soul props which give her sooper-cool points which translates into record sales!"-----some record exec. She can sing; but so can Monica and a whole host of other sistas on the charts as well as any youth choir singer in any Baptist chruch across the country. The "white factor" makes her seem special, but really she's not. As far as I can tell, she's on the same level as Fergie from Black Eyed Peas and Anastascia.
Alicia Keys - poor little mixed girl from Brooklyn - another product of marketing. Pop product with an edge. She's "street", she can sing and get this...she's a "classically trained" (insert other buzzwords here) pianist. She's talented. Anyone who says otherwise is jealous or lying to themselves. A decent singer, but again - nothing incredible as a vocalist. Her "training" is her undoing. Structure rules her music and restrains her creatively; well, that and the label geeks demanding a hit from her every 30 seconds. She's really hip hop at heart, she just happens to have talent in another genre. I've never seen an artist try so hard to infuse hip-hop into pop/R&B and fail so miserably at it. She's got all of the puzzle pieces, she's just not bright enough to figure out where they go. Also, white males are controlling both thier careers. No wonder they seem so fucked up. Clive knows how to pick 'em, but what happens from there is usually a disaster these days. I just hope both these young women can juice these fools for all they can get. They are product. If Alicia Keys looked like Fantasia from American "Idle", she wouldn't have a record deal. If Joss was dark-skinned and "nappy headed", she wouldn't have a record deal either. They sign pin-ups these days and will occasionally sign pure talent (Peep: Lizz Wright)out of guilt and demand from the public. Both of these women have skillz, yet neither is so vastly talented that they merit being called "special". Not special like Miles Davis was to jazz or like Aretha Franklin is to R&B, at least. Essentially, they will both be out of a career in 5 to 8 years if they don't make a mark in some way other than in CD sales. You gotta move hearts to truly stay relevant. I love it when Blaque rolls in, hits the nail on the head & bounces   I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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alicia keyes isnt a very good live performer and she can be grating. but i can overlook that cause i like some of her songs. joss stone ...hmm i only heard the first two singles from the first cd (fell in love...",and super duper love) they werent bad.
altho i cant say i was all that into her newer stuff. | |
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Christopher said: alicia keyes isnt a very good live performer and she can be grating. but i can overlook that cause i like some of her songs. joss stone ...hmm i only heard the first two singles from the first cd (fell in love...",and super duper love) they werent bad.
altho i cant say i was all that into her newer stuff. I like Alicia live better than on record  I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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BlaqueKnight said: Joss Stone = product marketed to white folks with the intent of using the race card for support (aka the Elvis/Eminem syndrome) "If we can get the blacks to validate her, she can get soul props which give her sooper-cool points which translates into record sales!"-----some record exec. She can sing; but so can Monica and a whole host of other sistas on the charts as well as any youth choir singer in any Baptist chruch across the country. The "white factor" makes her seem special, but really she's not. As far as I can tell, she's on the same level as Fergie from Black Eyed Peas and Anastascia.
Alicia Keys - poor little mixed girl from Brooklyn - another product of marketing. Pop product with an edge. She's "street", she can sing and get this...she's a "classically trained" (insert other buzzwords here) pianist. She's talented. Anyone who says otherwise is jealous or lying to themselves. A decent singer, but again - nothing incredible as a vocalist. Her "training" is her undoing. Structure rules her music and restrains her creatively; well, that and the label geeks demanding a hit from her every 30 seconds. She's really hip hop at heart, she just happens to have talent in another genre. I've never seen an artist try so hard to infuse hip-hop into pop/R&B and fail so miserably at it. She's got all of the puzzle pieces, she's just not bright enough to figure out where they go. Also, white males are controlling both thier careers. No wonder they seem so fucked up. Clive knows how to pick 'em, but what happens from there is usually a disaster these days. I just hope both these young women can juice these fools for all they can get. They are product. If Alicia Keys looked like Fantasia from American "Idle", she wouldn't have a record deal. If Joss was dark-skinned and "nappy headed", she wouldn't have a record deal either. They sign pin-ups these days and will occasionally sign pure talent (Peep: Lizz Wright)out of guilt and demand from the public. Both of these women have skillz, yet neither is so vastly talented that they merit being called "special". Not special like Miles Davis was to jazz or like Aretha Franklin is to R&B, at least. Essentially, they will both be out of a career in 5 to 8 years if they don't make a mark in some way other than in CD sales. You gotta move hearts to truly stay relevant.  Thank You BK for helping people put things into perspective. I agree with your comment about Lizz Wright b/c she is on point. | |
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CalhounSq said: Christopher said: alicia keyes isnt a very good live performer and she can be grating. but i can overlook that cause i like some of her songs. joss stone ...hmm i only heard the first two singles from the first cd (fell in love...",and super duper love) they werent bad.
altho i cant say i was all that into her newer stuff. I like Alicia live better than on record well she can sing ...but i meant more she hasnt found her groove on stage yet.shes still like "oh shit, what do i do up here?" | |
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Blimey!
Most folks who replied ain't rating Joss & Alicia at all. I'm surprised. I don't think they are perfect by any means but they have bags of talent and potential. You guys are tough. Name me so more promising YOUNG artists. Just cause they have lots of exposure and critical accaliam people want to knock them and compare them with folks who had careers over decades. I wonder what you guys would have said about an 18 year old Aretha Franklin. I also think its crap that you have to 'live the life' to have real soul, that's just marketing shite. Its art people. Sometimes its true from the heart sometimes its role playing. You can't tell the difference, chumps. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: Joss Stone = product marketed to white folks with the intent of using the race card for support (aka the Elvis/Eminem syndrome) "If we can get the blacks to validate her, she can get soul props which give her sooper-cool points which translates into record sales!"-----some record exec. She can sing; but blah blah fucking blah white people shouldn't try to sing like black people blah blah alicia keys but she's not 100% black so fuck her too blah blah
I don't see colour when I listen to music. It's either good or it's not. Keep your headphones on. | |
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