New topic
PrintableCloudbuster said: I just hope he gets a fair trial. I don't think it's right yet to say whether he's innocent or guilty because NONE OF YOU HAVE A FUCKING CLUE.
I would like to think that, I really would, but there he was on television, telling Ed Bradley it's OK to sleep with other people's children.  When the sunlight strikes raindrops in the air, they act as a prism and form a rainbow. The rainbow is a division of white light into many beautiful colors. Regardless of the day, I'm glad you were born. | |
- E-mail - orgNote -  Report post to moderator |
WHICH SIGNS..
Are a credible indicia of Jackson's guilt? Because as far as I'm aware none have been revealed thus far. thesexofit said: I can't wait till this starts.....but no one will ever really know if Jacko is guilty or not. All signs say yes but? M.2.K
 | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Thunderbird said: Cloudbuster said: I just hope he gets a fair trial. I don't think it's right yet to say whether he's innocent or guilty because NONE OF YOU HAVE A FUCKING CLUE.
I would like to think that, I really would, but there he was on television, telling Ed Bradley it's OK to sleep with other people's children. same person who has a special Magic tree, where he writes his songs he may be a lil 
but that doesn't he's guilty of anything but being a complete nutjob... | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
papaa said: WHICH SIGNS..
Are a credible indicia of Jackson's guilt? Because as far as I'm aware none have been revealed thus far. thesexofit said: I can't wait till this starts.....but no one will ever really know if Jacko is guilty or not. All signs say yes but? Wasn't their the underpants of the boy found in Jackos daughters bedroom? And other "scandals" I can't even remember now? Oh yeah, plus he loves little boys only it seems..... u know the drill.....look at his whole life, the pay off etc..... | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
REDFEATHERS said: He is Guilty as fuck!
 i sure hope you never get accused of a crime that you believe you are innocent of... i understand the entertainment value of these types of threads...however, im going to leave this up to our court system until a verdict has been reached... cause if i were ever accused of an allegation that i was innocent of i would expect that same courtesy.... Space for sale... | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
sosgemini said: REDFEATHERS said: He is Guilty as fuck!
i sure hope you never get accused of a crime that you believe you are innocent of... i understand the entertainment value of these types of threads...however, im going to leave this up to our court system until a verdict has been reached... cause if i were ever accused of an allegation that i was innocent of i would expect that same courtesy.... now im not a religious man but i hafta say AMEN! | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
This will be my first, last and only post on the subject of the MJ case until the case gets underway, because I get tired of hearing about it and I don't pay enough attention to it to warrant a full debate on the topic.
Plainly and simply I think he's innocent. But because he's surrounded by "yes" people that refuse to break it down to him, and he the fact that he says/does a boatload of ingorant things to make himself look guilty, he doesn't stand much of a chance either in the public eye or the courthouse. I have never attached any sort of sexuality to Michael Jackson - not with men, not with women and certainly not with children. I think he fears intimacy. Just listen to any of his songs, and you'll know what I'm talking about. The long and short of it is that MJ is a severaly damaged person who, at this point, is probably beyond repair. Here you have somebody who as a child was treated like an adult. Now, as an adult, he's living like a child and makes decisions the same way a child would. Nobody close to him is telling him that he's making a lot of bad choices, and if they are he's clearly not paying attention to them. I don't think any amount of psychological evaluation of therapy will do anything positive for Michael now. He can't even acknowledge that there's a problem, so why would he accept any help? Lastly, here's an interesting take on the matter by Dr. Stanley Katz, a clinical psychologist who interviewed the boys involved in the case for the police department. It was during his recap of the children's interviews that Katz provided Detective Zelis with an unsolicited, and surely surprising, analysis of Jackson. The entertainer, he offered, was really just a regressed adolescent who behaved like any 10-year-old boy prone to "whacking off" with his buddies. That is a professional opinion not shared by Santa Barbara county detectives and prosecutors, who have spent 18 months building the case that Michael Joe Jackson preys on young boys. Pretty crude, but to the point - he sees nothing wrong with anything he's done/doing and likely never will because he is developmentally delayed in some way. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
If people put there bias opinions about Michael Jackson or sleeping with minors aside for one minute, and listen to what he's being accused of and analyze it, it's hard for me to say that he's guilty.
Jackson knew this kid and his family since 2000, and after that infamous documentary with Bashir, and while Jackson and the family are being investigated by LAPD, Child Protective Services, SBPD, etc., Jackson decides to molest this kid. I can understand, and accept the idea that Jackson molested this kid over a period of years, since 2000, and the kid had to be quiet about it, but this story about the family "being held hostage", and extorted, and all that. I don't buy it. I never heard of a molester who molest ONE child during a short period of time, and that's what Jackson is being accused of, holding this family hostage, molesting this kid from Feb to March 2003, and then letting this kid and his family go, take that back, they escaped from Neverland. I don't buy their story for one minute, IMO. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
RipHer2Shreds said: This will be my first, last and only post on the subject of the MJ case until the case gets underway, because I get tired of hearing about it and I don't pay enough attention to it to warrant a full debate on the topic.
Plainly and simply I think he's innocent. But because he's surrounded by "yes" people that refuse to break it down to him, and he the fact that he says/does a boatload of ingorant things to make himself look guilty, he doesn't stand much of a chance either in the public eye or the courthouse. I have never attached any sort of sexuality to Michael Jackson - not with men, not with women and certainly not with children. I think he fears intimacy. Just listen to any of his songs, and you'll know what I'm talking about. The long and short of it is that MJ is a severaly damaged person who, at this point, is probably beyond repair. Here you have somebody who as a child was treated like an adult. Now, as an adult, he's living like a child and makes decisions the same way a child would. Nobody close to him is telling him that he's making a lot of bad choices, and if they are he's clearly not paying attention to them. I don't think any amount of psychological evaluation of therapy will do anything positive for Michael now. He can't even acknowledge that there's a problem, so why would he accept any help? Lastly, here's an interesting take on the matter by Dr. Stanley Katz, a clinical psychologist who interviewed the boys involved in the case for the police department. It was during his recap of the children's interviews that Katz provided Detective Zelis with an unsolicited, and surely surprising, analysis of Jackson. The entertainer, he offered, was really just a regressed adolescent who behaved like any 10-year-old boy prone to "whacking off" with his buddies. That is a professional opinion not shared by Santa Barbara county detectives and prosecutors, who have spent 18 months building the case that Michael Joe Jackson preys on young boys. Pretty crude, but to the point - he sees nothing wrong with anything he's done/doing and likely never will because he is developmentally delayed in some way. 
 | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
RipHer2Shreds said: This will be my first, last and only post on the subject of the MJ case until the case gets underway, because I get tired of hearing about it and I don't pay enough attention to it to warrant a full debate on the topic.
Plainly and simply I think he's innocent. But because he's surrounded by "yes" people that refuse to break it down to him, and he the fact that he says/does a boatload of ingorant things to make himself look guilty, he doesn't stand much of a chance either in the public eye or the courthouse. I have never attached any sort of sexuality to Michael Jackson - not with men, not with women and certainly not with children. I think he fears intimacy. Just listen to any of his songs, and you'll know what I'm talking about. The long and short of it is that MJ is a severaly damaged person who, at this point, is probably beyond repair. Here you have somebody who as a child was treated like an adult. Now, as an adult, he's living like a child and makes decisions the same way a child would. Nobody close to him is telling him that he's making a lot of bad choices, and if they are he's clearly not paying attention to them. I don't think any amount of psychological evaluation of therapy will do anything positive for Michael now. He can't even acknowledge that there's a problem, so why would he accept any help? Lastly, here's an interesting take on the matter by Dr. Stanley Katz, a clinical psychologist who interviewed the boys involved in the case for the police department. It was during his recap of the children's interviews that Katz provided Detective Zelis with an unsolicited, and surely surprising, analysis of Jackson. The entertainer, he offered, was really just a regressed adolescent who behaved like any 10-year-old boy prone to "whacking off" with his buddies. That is a professional opinion not shared by Santa Barbara county detectives and prosecutors, who have spent 18 months building the case that Michael Joe Jackson preys on young boys. Pretty crude, but to the point - he sees nothing wrong with anything he's done/doing and likely never will because he is developmentally delayed in some way. I notice something interesting about that Dr. Katz recap, he gave all of these analysis about Michael Jackson psyche, but He never interviewed Michael Jackson himself | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Wasn't their the underpants of the boy found in Jackos daughters bedroom?
 | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
It was during his recap of the children's interviews that Katz provided Detective Zelis with an unsolicited, and surely surprising, analysis of Jackson. The entertainer, he offered, was really just a regressed adolescent who behaved like any 10-year-old boy prone to "whacking off" with his buddies. That is a professional opinion not shared by Santa Barbara county detectives and prosecutors, who have spent 18 months building the case that Michael Joe Jackson preys on young boys.
My god, that still does not make it right. He is in his forties -- he is in no way 10 years old. That is the ultimate cop out. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
REDFEATHERS said: He is Guilty as fuck!
My thoughts... I hate the amount of people its generated who mouth off, regardless of whther its their oppinion or not. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
threat said: REDFEATHERS said: He is Guilty as fuck!
My thoughts... I hate the amount of people its generated who mouth off, regardless of whther its their oppinion or not. There is little mouthing off... I asked a serious question and everyone has given (i believe honest answers) | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
threat said: REDFEATHERS said: He is Guilty as fuck!
My thoughts... I hate the amount of people its generated who mouth off, regardless of whther its their oppinion or not. co-siggity if your gonna discuss the case at least be mature about it, and show some type of earthly intelligence | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Thriller81 said: RipHer2Shreds said: This will be my first, last and only post on the subject of the MJ case until the case gets underway, because I get tired of hearing about it and I don't pay enough attention to it to warrant a full debate on the topic.
Plainly and simply I think he's innocent. But because he's surrounded by "yes" people that refuse to break it down to him, and he the fact that he says/does a boatload of ingorant things to make himself look guilty, he doesn't stand much of a chance either in the public eye or the courthouse. I have never attached any sort of sexuality to Michael Jackson - not with men, not with women and certainly not with children. I think he fears intimacy. Just listen to any of his songs, and you'll know what I'm talking about. The long and short of it is that MJ is a severaly damaged person who, at this point, is probably beyond repair. Here you have somebody who as a child was treated like an adult. Now, as an adult, he's living like a child and makes decisions the same way a child would. Nobody close to him is telling him that he's making a lot of bad choices, and if they are he's clearly not paying attention to them. I don't think any amount of psychological evaluation of therapy will do anything positive for Michael now. He can't even acknowledge that there's a problem, so why would he accept any help? Lastly, here's an interesting take on the matter by Dr. Stanley Katz, a clinical psychologist who interviewed the boys involved in the case for the police department. It was during his recap of the children's interviews that Katz provided Detective Zelis with an unsolicited, and surely surprising, analysis of Jackson. The entertainer, he offered, was really just a regressed adolescent who behaved like any 10-year-old boy prone to "whacking off" with his buddies. That is a professional opinion not shared by Santa Barbara county detectives and prosecutors, who have spent 18 months building the case that Michael Joe Jackson preys on young boys. Pretty crude, but to the point - he sees nothing wrong with anything he's done/doing and likely never will because he is developmentally delayed in some way. I notice something interesting about that Dr. Katz recap, he gave all of these analysis about Michael Jackson psyche, but He never interviewed Michael Jackson himself You didn't happen to watch South Park lastnight, did you? That shit was FUNNNNY | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
gemini13 said: Thriller81 said: I notice something interesting about that Dr. Katz recap, he gave all of these analysis about Michael Jackson psyche, but He never interviewed Michael Jackson himself You didn't happen to watch South Park lastnight, did you? That shit was FUNNNNY "GimmeDABEATCHA!" lmao even those 2 sicko's think Mj might be innocent lol guilty of neglecting his children though lol | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
 http://thesmokinggun.com/...ckson.html
I think that he is a sick megalomaniac ( he probably thinks that he's really "invincible") and silly pedophile. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
slm4m said: threat said: My thoughts... I hate the amount of people its generated who mouth off, regardless of whther its their oppinion or not. There is little mouthing off... I asked a serious question and everyone has given (i believe honest answers) Listen... you wont believe the amount of serious answers iv given to people in regard to this topic which keeps on being rehashed over and over again, including on this site. I cant be botherd to waist my time giving deep input no more. i may be contradicting myself by even responding like this, but just to let ya ass kno. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
jn2 said: http://thesmokinggun.com/...ckson.html
I think that he is a sick megalomaniac ( he probably thinks that he's really "invincible") and silly pedophile. Don't rely on smokingGun son they where wrong on 10 of the cases they spouted their propaganda on they think just because they have an informant inside the judicial system doesn't mean they are right they can only get prosecution evidence never what the defense has to contradict the evidence hear both sides of the argument before making a valid opinion alright their buddy? | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Luv4oneanotha said: gemini13 said: You didn't happen to watch South Park lastnight, did you? That shit was FUNNNNY "GimmeDABEATCHA!" even those 2 sicko's think Mj might be innocent lol guilty of neglecting his children though lol M.J.- Look Blanket you can fly Blanket- Ahhhhh (starts crying) M.J.- Blanket look I got your nose M.J.- you see I got your nose Blanket- (starts laughing) Blanket- (walks up to M.J. and pulls off his nose) Ahhhhh!!!!! M.J.- No stop Blanket you're being ignorant, they're being ignorant. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
jn2 said: http://thesmokinggun.com/...ckson.html
I think that he is a sick megalomaniac ( he probably thinks that he's really "invincible") and silly pedophile. wouldn't that be silly megalomaniac and sick pedophile? and anyway, even the SmokingGun people point out tons of inconsistencies in the boy's story, and they only heard the procecution's. The funniest thing: the boy cannot give any specific dates/times because there are no clocks around @ Neverland. Of course the first thing you see when you drive up to the house is one giant ass clock
(btw, not beeing able to be specific about times comes in hande when you want to prevent the other side of disproving your story) "It's better 2 B hated 4 what U R than 2 B loved 4 what U R not."
My IQ is 139, what's yours? | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
To be honest, i feel most sorry 4 Katherine Jackson (mother). She has suffered alot in her life. All the Up's and Down's w/ Joseph and her children. If it wasn't for her, we would have none of these talented people blessing the earth. I pray for her strength through this time  Also I pray for JANET, I know she is most close w/ Michael. I hope that this whole tragedy does not effect her new work, love and life in any negative way. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
RipHer2Shreds said: This will be my first, last and only post on the subject of the MJ case until the case gets underway, because I get tired of hearing about it and I don't pay enough attention to it to warrant a full debate on the topic.
Plainly and simply I think he's innocent. But because he's surrounded by "yes" people that refuse to break it down to him, and he the fact that he says/does a boatload of ingorant things to make himself look guilty, he doesn't stand much of a chance either in the public eye or the courthouse. I have never attached any sort of sexuality to Michael Jackson - not with men, not with women and certainly not with children. I think he fears intimacy. Just listen to any of his songs, and you'll know what I'm talking about. The long and short of it is that MJ is a severaly damaged person who, at this point, is probably beyond repair. Here you have somebody who as a child was treated like an adult. Now, as an adult, he's living like a child and makes decisions the same way a child would. Nobody close to him is telling him that he's making a lot of bad choices, and if they are he's clearly not paying attention to them. I don't think any amount of psychological evaluation of therapy will do anything positive for Michael now. He can't even acknowledge that there's a problem, so why would he accept any help? Lastly, here's an interesting take on the matter by Dr. Stanley Katz, a clinical psychologist who interviewed the boys involved in the case for the police department. It was during his recap of the children's interviews that Katz provided Detective Zelis with an unsolicited, and surely surprising, analysis of Jackson. The entertainer, he offered, was really just a regressed adolescent who behaved like any 10-year-old boy prone to "whacking off" with his buddies. That is a professional opinion not shared by Santa Barbara county detectives and prosecutors, who have spent 18 months building the case that Michael Joe Jackson preys on young boys. Pretty crude, but to the point - he sees nothing wrong with anything he's done/doing and likely never will because he is developmentally delayed in some way. I pretty much agree with everything you said. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
DavidEye said: RipHer2Shreds said: This will be my first, last and only post on the subject of the MJ case until the case gets underway, because I get tired of hearing about it and I don't pay enough attention to it to warrant a full debate on the topic.
Plainly and simply I think he's innocent. But because he's surrounded by "yes" people that refuse to break it down to him, and he the fact that he says/does a boatload of ingorant things to make himself look guilty, he doesn't stand much of a chance either in the public eye or the courthouse. I have never attached any sort of sexuality to Michael Jackson - not with men, not with women and certainly not with children. I think he fears intimacy. Just listen to any of his songs, and you'll know what I'm talking about. The long and short of it is that MJ is a severaly damaged person who, at this point, is probably beyond repair. Here you have somebody who as a child was treated like an adult. Now, as an adult, he's living like a child and makes decisions the same way a child would. Nobody close to him is telling him that he's making a lot of bad choices, and if they are he's clearly not paying attention to them. I don't think any amount of psychological evaluation of therapy will do anything positive for Michael now. He can't even acknowledge that there's a problem, so why would he accept any help? Lastly, here's an interesting take on the matter by Dr. Stanley Katz, a clinical psychologist who interviewed the boys involved in the case for the police department. It was during his recap of the children's interviews that Katz provided Detective Zelis with an unsolicited, and surely surprising, analysis of Jackson. The entertainer, he offered, was really just a regressed adolescent who behaved like any 10-year-old boy prone to "whacking off" with his buddies. That is a professional opinion not shared by Santa Barbara county detectives and prosecutors, who have spent 18 months building the case that Michael Joe Jackson preys on young boys. Pretty crude, but to the point - he sees nothing wrong with anything he's done/doing and likely never will because he is developmentally delayed in some way. I pretty much agree with everything you said. All of that may be true , but it is still no excuse.If he thinks he's a kid , he needs to be slapped and told to walk like a man. I'd do it myself but I wouldn't want to get all that powder on my hands...  "...all you need ...is justa touch...of mojo hand....." | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
MrTation said: DavidEye said: I pretty much agree with everything you said. All of that may be true , but it is still no excuse.If he thinks he's a kid , he needs to be slapped and told to walk like a man. I'd do it myself but I wouldn't want to get all that powder on my hands... Ha..Ha.ha....ha..ha. I hope that his legal team has sat him down and had a blunt discussion with him about staying away from children. If I were his lawyer I would be furious with him. I would sit him down at a table, and tell him: "What the hell are you doing bringing kids into your bedroom. Are you stupid? That is just plain dangerous and irresponsible as an adult. Your behavior has and will cost you your career. That unto itself is just stupid. From now on, stay away from all children, clean up your act. If I see you with any child, I myself will call the police and have you arrested.You are an adult. You have no business bringing children to the ranch or any where alse for that matter. Why are you so interested in children? Your interest in boys makes you look liket a creep sleezy monster. You are not a child, That is just an excuse and you know it. Act your fucking age and get some help you clearly need it" Yes, I am against anyone who places children in harms way. [Edited 1/14/05 8:21am] [Edited 1/14/05 8:24am] [Edited 1/14/05 8:30am] | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
IF YOU SAID THAT TO MICHAEL JACKSON...
You'd be sacked in an instant, and Germaine and Bubbles will go tag team on your ass and beat you to an inch of your life.
slm4m said: I hope that his legal team has sat him down and had a blunt discussion with him about staying away from children.
If I were his lawyer I would be furious with him. I would sit him down at a table, and tell him: "What the hell are you doing bringing kids into your bedroom. Are you stupid? That is just plain dangerous and irresponsible as an adult. Your behavior has and will cost you your career and that unto itself is just stupid. From now on stay away from all children, clean your act. If I see you with any child I myself will call the police and have arrested. Act your fucking age and get some help you clearly need it" Yes, I am against anyone who places children in harms way. M.2.K
| |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
papaa said: IF YOU SAID THAT TO MICHAEL JACKSON...
You'd be sacked in an instant, and Germaine and Bubbles will go tag team on your ass and beat you to an inch of your life.
slm4m said: I hope that his legal team has sat him down and had a blunt discussion with him about staying away from children.
If I were his lawyer I would be furious with him. I would sit him down at a table, and tell him: "What the hell are you doing bringing kids into your bedroom. Are you stupid? That is just plain dangerous and irresponsible as an adult. Your behavior has and will cost you your career and that unto itself is just stupid. From now on stay away from all children, clean your act. If I see you with any child I myself will call the police and have arrested. Act your fucking age and get some help you clearly need it" Yes, I am against anyone who places children in harms way. Well, at least I would honest with him. I would not be a "yes" Man. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Cloudbuster said: I just hope he gets a fair trial. I don't think it's right yet to say whether he's innocent or guilty because NONE OF YOU HAVE A FUCKING CLUE.
Thank you, Cloudy. None of these people know what happened unless they were there, if/when "it" happened..... and if that is so, they should have their asses whooped. But seriously, y'all need to stop and put yourselves in his shoes for a minute. How would YOU feel if someone was accusing you of such a crime? That's a pretty fuckin serious offense, and your reputation could be diminished. How would you feel if the media tied your name to a truck and dragged it thru the mud, and people on websites everywhere are slandering your name? Think about it! There has really been NO EVIDENCE to prove this shit yet!!!!! "Jesus Juice" my foot!  They did WHAT??!.... 
Org Sci-Fi Association | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Luv4oneanotha said: TheRealFiness said: who cares... hes as washed up as ashlee simpson..he has the credibility of roadkill right now.
i believe for you to be washed up you are to be a hasbeen how can a Neverwas be a Hasbeen? (ashlee) What was the point of this thread? needs to be  Exactly. 
How can the King of Pop be compared to Ashley "Lipsinc" Simpson? They did WHAT??!....
Org Sci-Fi Association | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |