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Thread started 01/05/05 10:01pm

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If You Want Me To Stay Appreciation Thread

It's no secret that I'm a big fan of sly. But this song has stayed in my head longer than anything I can remember. What a stroke of genius.
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Reply #1 posted 01/06/05 11:21am

namepeace

Love this song. I listen to it in times when I have had to walk away from manipulative people I loved.

Can you start a "Family Affair" appreciation thread next?
Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016

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Reply #2 posted 01/06/05 11:25am

JazzyJ

One of my favorites by Sly, along with the entire "Fresh" album.
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Reply #3 posted 01/06/05 11:27am

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Aw, fuck yeah.

An excellent example of how Sly used his voice as an instrument. At times in this song, his voice sounds like a slapping bass guitar, at other times he sounds like a horn.

This song rocks my boots.
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Reply #4 posted 01/06/05 12:01pm

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FunkMistress said:

Aw, fuck yeah.

An excellent example of how Sly used his voice as an instrument. At times in this song, his voice sounds like a slapping bass guitar, at other times he sounds like a horn.

This song rocks my boots.

nod...what she said!
/peace Manki
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Reply #5 posted 01/06/05 12:04pm

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So strange that this thread is started. eek I had a really crazy dream last night, and this song was the background music for it. lol I was playing dominoes to it. confuse
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Reply #6 posted 01/06/05 12:09pm

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manki said:

FunkMistress said:

Aw, fuck yeah.

An excellent example of how Sly used his voice as an instrument. At times in this song, his voice sounds like a slapping bass guitar, at other times he sounds like a horn.

This song rocks my boots.

nod...what she said!
/peace Manki


hug
CHICKENS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO COCAINE, SILKY HEN.
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Reply #7 posted 01/06/05 12:09pm

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minneapolisgenius said:

So strange that this thread is started. eek I had a really crazy dream last night, and this song was the background music for it. lol I was playing dominoes to it. confuse


eek Did you win?
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Reply #8 posted 01/06/05 12:21pm

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The Red Hot Chili Peppers did a great version of that. But Sly's is the BOMB!
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Reply #9 posted 01/06/05 12:26pm

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One of the best intros in music history.
Listen to that bass guitar.
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Reply #10 posted 01/06/05 2:17pm

jacktheimprovi
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namepeace said:

Love this song. I listen to it in times when I have had to walk away from manipulative people I loved.

Can you start a "Family Affair" appreciation thread next?


Sure why not biggrin

but anyway back to this song. I think I remember someone mentioning on this board that there were alternate mixes of various "Fresh" songs circulating. Does anyone know if there are and what they sound like
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Reply #11 posted 01/06/05 3:27pm

manki

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jacktheimprovident said:

namepeace said:

Love this song. I listen to it in times when I have had to walk away from manipulative people I loved.

Can you start a "Family Affair" appreciation thread next?


Sure why not biggrin

but anyway back to this song. I think I remember someone mentioning on this board that there were alternate mixes of various "Fresh" songs circulating. Does anyone know if there are and what they sound like
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Yes,it's a bit different.Especially the intro.More guitars,less piano.
Different mix.
/peace Manki
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Reply #12 posted 01/06/05 4:29pm

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I fucking LOVE this song.

Seeing as how Sly was an influence of Prince's, it sounds to me like the Camille vocal style was borrowed from this song.
"A Watcher scoffs at gravity!"
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Reply #13 posted 01/06/05 5:27pm

uPtoWnNY

jacktheimprovident said:

It's no secret that I'm a big fan of sly. But this song has stayed in my head longer than anything I can remember. What a stroke of genius.



This is why I love prince.org, so much love for old skool songs. Sly was the MAN and a HUGE influence on Prince(IMO, more than Hendrix).
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Reply #14 posted 01/06/05 5:39pm

UptownDeb

OMG! Same thing I said about "Family Affair." biggrin
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Reply #15 posted 01/06/05 6:48pm

jacktheimprovi
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meow85 said:

I fucking LOVE this song.

Seeing as how Sly was an influence of Prince's, it sounds to me like the Camille vocal style was borrowed from this song.


That's exactly what I thought when I first listened to Fresh. It sounded SO much like Prince, particularly Camille era Prince that it gave me goosebumps. Although I think I've seen Camille's ancestors in other places too, like the sped up voice Stevie uses on the chorus of Maybe Your Baby. In fact, the other day I thought to myself that John Lennon's voice on Lucy in the sky with Diamonds sounds like Camille too.
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Reply #16 posted 01/06/05 6:51pm

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jacktheimprovident said:

meow85 said:

I fucking LOVE this song.

Seeing as how Sly was an influence of Prince's, it sounds to me like the Camille vocal style was borrowed from this song.


That's exactly what I thought when I first listened to Fresh. It sounded SO much like Prince, particularly Camille era Prince that it gave me goosebumps. Although I think I've seen Camille's ancestors in other places too, like the sped up voice Stevie uses on the chorus of Maybe Your Baby. In fact, the other day I thought to myself that John Lennon's voice on Lucy in the sky with Diamonds sounds like Camille too.


nod I think part of Prince's genius is that he can borrow from so many sources without making it seem like stealing.
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Reply #17 posted 01/06/05 6:57pm

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This song is fucking brilliant. worship Sly was in genius overload mode on this track. thumbs up!
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Reply #18 posted 01/07/05 7:45am

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FunkMistress said:

minneapolisgenius said:

So strange that this thread is started. eek I had a really crazy dream last night, and this song was the background music for it. lol I was playing dominoes to it. confuse


eek Did you win?

No. hrmph
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Reply #19 posted 01/07/05 12:49pm

Miles

Great song, one of loads on 'Fresh', my fave Sly album. Sly has to be the prime influence on Prince in so many ways. Especially P's '86-'87 music - this era has loads of Sly-like songs.

It partly explains why Prince is so close to Larry Graham (whatever some may think of him. I personally dig Larry musically but not religiously). For Prince, Larry is a direct link with Sly (however Sly and Larry ended up).

What a shame that P released that terrible version of 'If You Want Me to Stay', 'sung' by Musiq on the ONAL album. I always skip that one!
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Reply #20 posted 01/07/05 12:56pm

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the whole "Fresh" album is dope. Especially "In Time".
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Reply #21 posted 01/07/05 1:37pm

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this was the first song ol' boy performed at the very first paisley party i went to. it was cool to...odd thing about it is that i was listenin to the radio as i was gettin ready to head out to paisley that night, and sly's chit came on!

omfg
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Reply #22 posted 01/07/05 8:56pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

jacktheimprovident said:

It's no secret that I'm a big fan of sly. But this song has stayed in my head longer than anything I can remember. What a stroke of genius.



This is why I love prince.org, so much love for old skool songs. Sly was the MAN and a HUGE influence on Prince(IMO, more than Hendrix).

Sly's influence is all over "The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker"
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Reply #23 posted 01/09/05 5:23pm

namepeace

meow85 said:

I fucking LOVE this song.

Seeing as how Sly was an influence of Prince's, it sounds to me like the Camille vocal style was borrowed from this song.


Check out "Maybe Your Baby" from Stevie Wonder's Talking Book. The backing vocals on that also might have influenced "Camille"
Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016

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Reply #24 posted 01/09/05 7:07pm

jacktheimprovi
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namepeace said:

meow85 said:

I fucking LOVE this song.

Seeing as how Sly was an influence of Prince's, it sounds to me like the Camille vocal style was borrowed from this song.


Check out "Maybe Your Baby" from Stevie Wonder's Talking Book. The backing vocals on that also might have influenced "Camille"


worship, finally someone else who noticed that
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Reply #25 posted 01/10/05 9:17am

namepeace

jacktheimprovident said:

namepeace said:



Check out "Maybe Your Baby" from Stevie Wonder's Talking Book. The backing vocals on that also might have influenced "Camille"


worship, finally someone else who noticed that


thumbs up! I dig that song immensely.

Is it any wonder that P plays that song live?

I would have given anything to have heard P and Stevie do that song together live several years ago.
Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016

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