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PrintableSarai said: Also, her parents didn't understand why she was singing the way she did. They wanted her to sing like Barbara Streisand. If you've been following her career like I have you would know that when she was younger she didn't talked too much on her personal life. I mean, she played coy about her relationship with Rick James for years, but we knew... But, last year, she opened up about her father in an interview with Sister to Sister Magazine. Here's part of it--
*No, the man she's talking about is not Rick James* Jamie: How come you never married? Teena: Because the one person that I really, really wanted to marry...my family pulled us apart when I was really young. There has never been any man that I ever ran across that I can compare to him. And I still love him to this day. He's one of my best friends. Jamie: Did he eventually marry someone else? Teena: Yes, we were 19 and 20 and my family at that particular time in my life was not at all with the Black and White Thing. We were very much in love. Right at the height of everything that was going on, my father died. And my father died on a very bad note with me. (Teena dedicated her first album to her father, Thomas Leslie Brockert). Jamie: What happened when you introduced your Black boyfriend to your father? Teena: When I introduced him to this man my father didn't shake his hand. My father died of a heart attack. Some of the people in my family said I killed my father and it really sent me into a really bad mental thing. And eventually our relationship couldn't hold up at that particular time. But I have compared every man I've met to him and found that they were all wanting. He was the love of my life! -S- [Edited 1/9/05 14:12pm] Great interview. I always wondered about Teena's personal life but never really saw much out there. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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I still named my band after her. | |
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Teena Marie said:
When I introduced him to this man my father didn't shake his hand. My father died of a heart attack.
I'm sorry if I seem too cold or anything, I know it ain't funny I'm cracking up right now  
I'm sorry 2 hear that, Teena  | |
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DigitalGardin said: ABeautifulOne said: so sad
that is very sad..very sad
wow I wonder if thats where a bit of ASK YO MAMA came from yeah....  | |
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sdekm1 said: Back when T had a "crossover" hit with Lovergirl.... Madonna said that she didn't deserve to be in the top ten, that Teena was just one of Rick James girls.... in other words one of his talentless bimbos. It made me hate Madonna even more than I already did at that point.... She doesn't have a speck of T's skills.
Reggie Lucas (from the group, MTUME) produce Madonna's debut lp..... Nile Rodgers produce "Like A Virgin"... | |
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funkpill said: sdekm1 said: Back when T had a "crossover" hit with Lovergirl.... Madonna said that she didn't deserve to be in the top ten, that Teena was just one of Rick James girls.... in other words one of his talentless bimbos. It made me hate Madonna even more than I already did at that point.... She doesn't have a speck of T's skills.
Reggie Lucas (from the group, MTUME) produce Madonna's debut lp..... Nile Rodgers produce "Like A Virgin"... I also remember hearing that when Madonna came out with "Holiday" before people new what she looked liked and the videos and what not...they thought she was black as well because that song was a hit on black radio back then.... I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back. I am not european. Europe lives in me, but I have no home there. I am new. History made me. My first language was spanglish. And I am | |
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EmeraldCity said: sdekm1 said: But she never got the recognition she deserved outside of the black community... when I bring her up to my white friends, they go, "Teena who?" Teena is 10x more talented than almost any female singer I can name White or Black. And Madonna had the nerve to diss her a few years back.
I agree with you 100%. I'm Teena obsessive but refuse to comment on the race issue as it has nothing to do with how much I enjoy music, regardless of skin color. But none my light-skinned friends know what she's all about. I could get into this and open a whole new can of beans, but I won't. BUT Madogna had the nerve to diss Teena?  Not that she would have a clue what she was talking about, but what did the fossil say? Madonna is so tired I can't believe the media and people still fawn over every one of her farts. After all, Madonna would probably bet Britney is the best artist to ever live.ROTFL....you called her a "fossil"...lol. love is a fate resigned memories mar my mind love it is a fate resigned Over futile odds and laughed at by the Gods and now the final frame Love is a losing game | |
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boriquateddy said: funkpill said: Reggie Lucas (from the group, MTUME) produce Madonna's debut lp..... Nile Rodgers produce "Like A Virgin"... I also remember hearing that when Madonna came out with "Holiday" before people new what she looked liked and the videos and what not...they thought she was black as well because that song was a hit on black radio back then.... Yep....That's right  | |
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funkpill said: boriquateddy said: I also remember hearing that when Madonna came out with "Holiday" before people new what she looked liked and the videos and what not...they thought she was black as well because that song was a hit on black radio back then.... Yep....That's right thats the p&r bullshit that her record label pushed...same thing debbie gibson's p&r people pushed...aint no way in hell anyone thinking madonna or debbie were anything but yuppy white-girls.. 
evidence madge: ending of borderline "la la la la la"...no way a soul person would sing the song the way she did...PROOF! evidence debbie: the way debbie sings "now now now now"...its too whiney....aint no way a soul sista would sing that in that manner... Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: funkpill said: Yep....That's right thats the p&r bullshit that her record label pushed...same thing debbie gibson's p&r people pushed...aint no way in hell anyone thinking madonna or debbie were anything but yuppy white-girls..
evidence madge: ending of borderline "la la la la la"...no way a soul person would sing the song the way she did...PROOF! evidence debbie: the way debbie sings "now now now now"...its too whiney....aint no way a soul sista would sing that in that manner... Yeah, even DavidEye admits that, while Madonna was played on R&B stations, no one thought for a minute she was anything but white. 
And I don't remember and haven't read anything about Debbie being promoted in that manner! LMAO! | |
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sosgemini said: funkpill said: Yep....That's right thats the p&r bullshit that her record label pushed...same thing debbie gibson's p&r people pushed...aint no way in hell anyone thinking madonna or debbie were anything but yuppy white-girls..
evidence madge: ending of borderline "la la la la la"...no way a soul person would sing the song the way she did...PROOF! evidence debbie: the way debbie sings "now now now now"...its too whiney....aint no way a soul sista would sing that in that manner... uhm and we were not talking about "Borderline" by that time her image had been exposed and we knew what she looked liked...she had already pimped out her black audience and got her foot through the door...even as a younging at the time I vividly remember 'Holiday" being on heavy rotation on black radio. as far as Debbie...she was to me anyway, carbon copy freestyle..when she came out with that "Only in my dreams" ish... [Edited 1/11/05 17:35pm] I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back. I am not european. Europe lives in me, but I have no home there. I am new. History made me. My first language was spanglish. And I am | |
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boriquateddy said: sosgemini said: thats the p&r bullshit that her record label pushed...same thing debbie gibson's p&r people pushed...aint no way in hell anyone thinking madonna or debbie were anything but yuppy white-girls..
evidence madge: ending of borderline "la la la la la"...no way a soul person would sing the song the way she did...PROOF! evidence debbie: the way debbie sings "now now now now"...its too whiney....aint no way a soul sista would sing that in that manner... uhm and we were not talking about "Borderline" by that time her image had been exposed and we knew what she looked liked...she had already pimped out her black audience and got her foot through the door...even as a younging at the time I vividly remember 'Holiday" being on heavy rotation on black radio. as far as Debbie...she was to me anyway, carbon copy freestyle..when she came out with that "Only in my dreams" ish... [Edited 1/11/05 17:35pm] Again.....That's right
Also, there's was no video for "Holiday" [Edited 1/11/05 17:49pm] | |
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boriquateddy said: sosgemini said: thats the p&r bullshit that her record label pushed...same thing debbie gibson's p&r people pushed...aint no way in hell anyone thinking madonna or debbie were anything but yuppy white-girls..
evidence madge: ending of borderline "la la la la la"...no way a soul person would sing the song the way she did...PROOF! evidence debbie: the way debbie sings "now now now now"...its too whiney....aint no way a soul sista would sing that in that manner... uhm and we were not talking about "Borderline" by that time her image had been exposed and we knew what she looked liked...she had already pimped out her black audience and got her foot through the door...even as a younging at the time I vividly remember 'Holiday" being on heavy rotation on black radio. as far as Debbie...she was to me anyway, carbon copy freestyle..when she came out with that "Only in my dreams" ish... [Edited 1/11/05 17:35pm] That's funny, because I remember thinking Madonna was black when I was a kid. Holiday was in pretty heavy rotation on the local R&B station. In fact, a lot of my friends thought the same thing. It's not such a big deal. This was, obviously, before I'd seen any of her videos. Now, Debbie Gibson? Come on. Nobody ever thought that, and I doubt she was ever marketed that way!
Back to Teena Marie - I think she gets her props for what she's contributed to the soul/R&B scene. Though I think she's corny as all hell, I like her. And like a lot of strictly R&B performers, she's amassed a good number of R&B hits (7 top 10 and 23 top 100) without ever making a steady presence on top 40 radio. That's not uncommon for an R&B artist. | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: boriquateddy said: uhm and we were not talking about "Borderline" by that time her image had been exposed and we knew what she looked liked...she had already pimped out her black audience and got her foot through the door...even as a younging at the time I vividly remember 'Holiday" being on heavy rotation on black radio. as far as Debbie...she was to me anyway, carbon copy freestyle..when she came out with that "Only in my dreams" ish... [Edited 1/11/05 17:35pm] That's funny, because I remember thinking Madonna was black when I was a kid. Holiday was in pretty heavy rotation on the local R&B station. In fact, a lot of my friends thought the same thing. It's not such a big deal. This was, obviously, before I'd seen any of her videos. Now, Debbie Gibson? Come on. Nobody ever thought that, and I doubt she was ever marketed that way!
Back to Teena Marie - I think she gets her props for what she's contributed to the soul/R&B scene. Though I think she's corny as all hell, I like her. And like a lot of strictly R&B performers, she's amassed a good number of R&B hits (7 top 10 and 23 top 100) without ever making a steady presence on top 40 radio. That's not uncommon for an R&B artist. yup..debbie was initially marketed as such... and nobody bought the madge deal in my neck of the woods..but then us folks in california are a brighter breed of human...
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RipHer2Shreds said: boriquateddy said: uhm and we were not talking about "Borderline" by that time her image had been exposed and we knew what she looked liked...she had already pimped out her black audience and got her foot through the door...even as a younging at the time I vividly remember 'Holiday" being on heavy rotation on black radio. as far as Debbie...she was to me anyway, carbon copy freestyle..when she came out with that "Only in my dreams" ish... [Edited 1/11/05 17:35pm] That's funny, because I remember thinking Madonna was black when I was a kid. Holiday was in pretty heavy rotation on the local R&B station. In fact, a lot of my friends thought the same thing. It's not such a big deal. This was, obviously, before I'd seen any of her videos. Now, Debbie Gibson? Come on. Nobody ever thought that, and I doubt she was ever marketed that way!
Back to Teena Marie - I think she gets her props for what she's contributed to the soul/R&B scene. Though I think she's corny as all hell, I like her. And like a lot of strictly R&B performers, she's amassed a good number of R&B hits (7 top 10 and 23 top 100) without ever making a steady presence on top 40 radio. That's not uncommon for an R&B artist. What's corny about her? | |
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sdekm1 said: RipHer2Shreds said: That's funny, because I remember thinking Madonna was black when I was a kid. Holiday was in pretty heavy rotation on the local R&B station. In fact, a lot of my friends thought the same thing. It's not such a big deal. This was, obviously, before I'd seen any of her videos. Now, Debbie Gibson? Come on. Nobody ever thought that, and I doubt she was ever marketed that way!
Back to Teena Marie - I think she gets her props for what she's contributed to the soul/R&B scene. Though I think she's corny as all hell, I like her. And like a lot of strictly R&B performers, she's amassed a good number of R&B hits (7 top 10 and 23 top 100) without ever making a steady presence on top 40 radio. That's not uncommon for an R&B artist. What's corny about her? If I Were a Bell is a corny ballad. Those Munchkins singin' backup on It Must Be Magic crack me up (same thing with the backup vocals on I'm a Sucker for Your Love). And I can't help but laugh anytime she raps. Sometimes she tries too hard to prove how down she is, and she needn't do it. Her music does it all on its own. | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: sdekm1 said: What's corny about her? If I Were a Bell is a corny ballad. Those Munchkins singin' backup on It Must Be Magic crack me up (same thing with the backup vocals on I'm a Sucker for Your Love). And I can't help but laugh anytime she raps. Sometimes she tries too hard to prove how down she is, and she needn't do it. Her music does it all on its own. I might go along with you on those songs..... but you can't win them all, besides she's had far more deep meaningful, songs of substance than not... "Now I have you... Tune in Tomorrow, Portuguese Love, Cassonova Brown and so on, that she can be excused for occasional corn..... | |
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sdekm1 said: RipHer2Shreds said: If I Were a Bell is a corny ballad. Those Munchkins singin' backup on It Must Be Magic crack me up (same thing with the backup vocals on I'm a Sucker for Your Love). And I can't help but laugh anytime she raps. Sometimes she tries too hard to prove how down she is, and she needn't do it. Her music does it all on its own. I might go along with you on those songs..... but you can't win them all, besides she's had far more deep meaningful, songs of substance than not... "Now I have you... Tune in Tomorrow, Portuguese Love, Cassonova Brown and so on, that she can be excused for occasional corn..... you forgot my fav.. Sunny Skies...Oye!!! the pain..the pain at the sides of my head when i hear that song....heartbreak!! beutiful... Space for sale... | |
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boriquateddy said: funkpill said: Reggie Lucas (from the group, MTUME) produce Madonna's debut lp..... Nile Rodgers produce "Like A Virgin"... I also remember hearing that when Madonna came out with "Holiday" before people new what she looked liked and the videos and what not...they thought she was black as well because that song was a hit on black radio back then.... The first Madonna song I ever remember hearing on black radio was "Everybody" but a lot of people knew she was white. Teena had already opened doors by then. Hall & Oates was also played frequently. I don't ever remember hearing "Everybody" on pop radio. [Edited 1/12/05 6:18am] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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I don't know anyone who haven't said or done something that they later thought, "How corny was that?" Speaking of "It Must Be Magic", this is what Teena had to later say about that song - Teena still digs the song - except for the "Teena went to Wonderland" break.
"My little girl, Alia, drives me crazy with it," she says with a laugh. "Cuz, she knows it sounds so corny to me now. I'm like, why did I ever do that?" You all better watch out for Teena's gorgeous baby girl, Alia Rose. Teena takes Alia with her when she goes out on the road and they do a duet together in some of her shows. You should hear this little kid sing Alicia Keys' song, "If I Ain't Got You. She has made it her own...she rips that song up!!! Alia loves Beyonce and there's a part in Teena's show where Alia does her little Destiny's Child thing flanked by two other young girls and a young boy rapper. It's AWESOME...Alia can dance her butt off, too. Alia is only 13 and just a itty-bitty thing, but she has a lot of potential and she has Teena guiding her. Also, I read in the LA Times that Alia had auditioned without Teena's knowledge or string-pulling and was accepted into a music program run by keyboardist-composer Patrice Rushen (remember her ?), so she's working with Alia Rose, too. *There's a great photo of Teena Marie and daughter, Alia Rose rocking the house during Magic Johnson's holiday celebration in Hanger 8 of the Santa Monica Airport in Jan. 17, 2005 issue of Jet magazine.* -S- | |
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I just caught The Missy Elliott Show and to my surprise - LADY T is one of the judges - and can sista have an opinion - she is still one of my favorites! | |
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Where the topic in this post came from is....me and some friends were discussing the Lady Of Soul awards. Every year they give the Lena Horne Award for outstanding career achievement in entertainment. Some past winners have been Patti LaBelle, Chaka Khan, Halle Berry, Vanessa Williams, Natalie Cole, Angela Bassett and Janet Jackson and a few others.
They were kicking around some names of folks they thought were worthy and overlooked. I mentioned Teena's name and they kinda looked at me like I said Milli Vanilli or something. Now while I don't purport to believe that Teena has the voice of Chaka or Patti, when you consider her overall talents and her catalogue of music it stands up against most any contemporary R&B artist, male or female. And it just made me wonder that if Teena was black, would she be revered more by the black community. | |
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vainandy said: The first Madonna song I ever remember hearing on black radio was "Everybody" but a lot of people knew she was white. Teena had already opened doors by then. Hall & Oates was also played frequently. I don't ever remember hearing "Everybody" on pop radio. [Edited 1/12/05 6:18am] Yeah, R&B stations in NY used to play 'Everybody' and 'Physical Attraction' a lot. | |
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