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Thread started 12/25/04 11:11am

Harlepolis

Dusty Soul Musical Of The Day: 'And I'm Telling You I'm Not Going' Of "Dreamgirls" By Jennifer Holliday

Jennifer's voice in that gem is a fuckin' gut-shaker, I wish she was as focused on doing albums as much as she was focued on doing broadway.



Mom saw that show when she was pregnant with me and took me to see the 2001 re-visited show lol redface

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Reply #1 posted 12/26/04 7:51am

CinisterCee

lol Looks like your thread is about as popular as mine. Do we need to post these songs?
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Reply #2 posted 12/26/04 2:16pm

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"Show business is a business that quickly casts you away. You’re only worth as much as your hit record, your contribution financially," she says. "It’s not your talent or anything like that. None of that matters. I had not had an ability to sell any records. I had also ballooned to like 400 pounds, and it was just a very hard time, a very difficult time in terms of where to go. In the ’80s and coming out of the ’80s, when everything became image conscious with videos, it was like, ‘Okay, well maybe we can put her face in a spotlight and have the rest of it dark around her and have people dancing.’ All kind of dehumanizing things would be said as if you weren’t even standing there. You are a product. You are a commodity. That’s it."
http://www.twnonline.org/...lliday.htm

I was thinking it was more the "size" of her voice.

Much bigger that the present day wannabe divas.

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Reply #3 posted 12/26/04 6:34pm

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I've always like this song but the lyrics are kinda creepy, to me it sounds like she's stalking him.
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Reply #4 posted 12/26/04 10:47pm

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lovedad43 said:

I've always like this song but the lyrics are kinda creepy, to me it sounds like she's stalking him.


falloff yeah, it does...but she's determined.
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Reply #5 posted 12/27/04 5:07am

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I love the song "And I Am Telling You, I'm Not Going". The only other Jennifer Holliday song I like is her uptempo jam "No Frills Love". Her other ballads just don't have that same feeling as "...I'm Not Going". It's hard to explain, but the rest of her ballads have that tame "adult contemporary", "Whitney Houstonish" feel to them, which I don't like.
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Reply #6 posted 12/27/04 7:40am

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The song, "And I'm Telling You, I'm Not Going" in the show is actually a reply to the entire group and business people (including her brother, and manager/lover) who have basically replaced her with a new girl named Michelle because of Effie White's (Jennifer's character in the show) attitude and problems with being forced to sing back-up to the star, Dina Jones. So when she sings, "...and you, and you, and you, you're going to love me" she's singing to all of them. On the official soundtrack it doesn't come across as well. However, if you get the Dreamgirls in Concert (2001 Concert Cast) [SOUNDTRACK] (featuring Heather Headley, Audra McDonald and Lillias White(in the Jennifer Holliday role)), it basically acts out the entire play. The song/fight leading up to the pivotal song, 'And I'm Telling You I'm Not Going'is just as powerful as they all lay into Effie White telling her why she's being replaced, and she tries to counter each attack culminating in the song. I never saw the play and the official soundtrack left me wondering about some of the scenes. However, this new compilation, which you can find on Amazon.com at http://www.amazon.com/exe...9?v=glance tells the whole story in context. It is great.
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Reply #7 posted 12/27/04 7:56am

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theAudience said:

"Show business is a business that quickly casts you away. You’re only worth as much as your hit record, your contribution financially," she says. "It’s not your talent or anything like that. None of that matters. I had not had an ability to sell any records. I had also ballooned to like 400 pounds, and it was just a very hard time, a very difficult time in terms of where to go. In the ’80s and coming out of the ’80s, when everything became image conscious with videos, it was like, ‘Okay, well maybe we can put her face in a spotlight and have the rest of it dark around her and have people dancing.’ All kind of dehumanizing things would be said as if you weren’t even standing there. You are a product. You are a commodity. That’s it."
http://www.twnonline.org/...lliday.htm

I was thinking it was more the "size" of her voice.

Much bigger that the present day wannabe divas.

tA

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http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm


I figured she would be upset about this lol then again she was pretty lazy when it came to making albums, so,,,
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Reply #8 posted 12/29/04 5:32am

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that song for sure has one of the best vocal performances ever nod

her voice is just incredible, to bad she never made the big breakthrogh. I have 4 of her albums, that debut from '83 had a rather rare outside EWF production by Maurice White. I remember there were some great songs on that I really listened to a lot back then... but that was ages ago... dang... I know what will be spinning on my turntable tonite smile


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Reply #9 posted 12/29/04 7:03am

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I fuckin' love this song!!!!!

And I¹m Telling You I'm Not Going

From the cd "Heart & Soul"

And I¹m Telling You I'm Not Going - Jennifer Holliday

And I am telling you I'm not going
You're best man I'll ever know
There's no way I can ever go
No no there's no way
No no no no way
I'm living without you

I'm not living without you
I don't wanna be free

I'm staying
I'm staying
And you - and you
You're gonna love me

You're gonna love me

And I am telling you I'm not going
Even though the rough times are showing
There's just no way - there's no way

We're part of the same place
We're part of the same time
We both share the same blood
We both have the same mind

And time and time
We've had so much to share
No no no no no no
I'm not waking up tomorrow morning
And finding that there's nobody there

Darling there's no way
No no no no way
I'm living without you
I'm not living without you
You see there's just no way - there's no way

Tear down the mountains
Yell, scream and shout
You can say what you want
I'm not walking out

Stop all the rivers
Push, strike and kill
I'm not gonna leave you
There's no way I will

And I am telling you I'm not going
You're the best man I'll ever know
There's no way I can ever ever go
No no no no way
No no no no way
I'm living without you
I'm not living without you

Not living without you
I don't wanna be free

I'm staying

I'm staying
And you - and you - and you
You're gonna love me

You're gonna love me
Yes you are

Love me - love me - love me
Love me - love me - love me

You're gonna love me

sigh I never knew until now who sang that song, but I have loved this tune for a long time.
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Reply #10 posted 12/29/04 9:39am

Harlepolis

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She looks sooooo damn cute in that pic love
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Reply #11 posted 12/29/04 10:05am

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No one's mentioned her club classic "A Woman's Got The Strength". There's anohter one too I just can't think of it right now.
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Reply #12 posted 12/31/04 2:14pm

DavidEye

In the late 90s,Warner Bros. Films were planning to turn "Dreamgirls" into a major motion picture starring Lauryn Hill.Those plans fell through when another black-themed musical from this period ('Why Do Fools Fall In Love') bombed at the box office.
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Reply #13 posted 12/31/04 2:23pm

RipHer2Shreds

I somehow missed this thread the first go-around! eek It's too bad she's pretty much blackballed herself from doing Broadway ever again. I've heard so many stories about the in-fighting during this show. It was so bad that she wasn't even asked to be a part of the 2001 show. Too bad, because nobody can do that part like her.
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Reply #14 posted 12/31/04 2:27pm

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DavidEye said:

In the late 90s,Warner Bros. Films were planning to turn "Dreamgirls" into a major motion picture starring Lauryn Hill.Those plans fell through when another black-themed musical from this period ('Why Do Fools Fall In Love') bombed at the box office.

These rumors just piss me off SO much, because I'd love to see this as a movie. At that time, the word going around was that Kelly Price would do the Jennifer Holliday role, and she would have turned it out. I played some snippets of Jennifer Hudson (from American Idol season 2) for a friend of mine who does a lot of Broadway stuff, and he flipped out! Physically, she isn't right for the role, but that voice?!?! Ugh. I wish this movie would happen, and I wish it would happen with a great cast. Sadly, I just don't see it ever happening anytime soon.
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