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MADONNA "RAY OF LIGHT" SURVIVOR *ROUND 4* Well I'm going to cry now...my favorite song on ROL got the boot. I guess it was a song I was meant to Have and not to hold... Well here's to the next round...my vote stays with nothing really matters.
Drowned World/Substitute For Love Swim Ray Of Light Candy Perfume Girl Skin Nothing Really Matters Sky Fits Heaven Frozen The Power Of Goodbye Mer Girl Let the rain come down...17 days.... | |
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NOTHING REALLY MATTERS | |
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Mer Girl,goddamit! | |
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"Mer Girl". | |
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Mer Girl to go. NRM is a good song, dammit! | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: Mer Girl to go. NRM is a good song, dammit!
Nothing really matters, love is all we need, Everything I give you all comes back to me Nothing takes the past away like the future. etc etc Honestly, it sounds like Madonna wrote these lyrics after attending New Age Getaway Camp '97. Pseudo-profound bullshit. That is my main problem with the song. | |
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VoicesCarry said: RipHer2Shreds said: Mer Girl to go. NRM is a good song, dammit!
Nothing really matters, love is all we need, Everything I give you all comes back to me Nothing takes the past away like the future. etc etc Honestly, it sounds like Madonna wrote these lyrics after attending New Age Getaway Camp '97. Pseudo-profound bullshit. That is my main problem with the song. try the Kruder & Dorfmeister-remix.....makes you forget about the lyrics! [Edited 12/30/04 14:24pm] | |
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VoicesCarry said: RipHer2Shreds said: Mer Girl to go. NRM is a good song, dammit!
Nothing really matters, love is all we need, Everything I give you all comes back to me Nothing takes the past away like the future. etc etc Honestly, it sounds like Madonna wrote these lyrics after attending New Age Getaway Camp '97. Pseudo-profound bullshit. That is my main problem with the song. Star light star bright first star i see tonight star light star bright uh yeah That sounds like it was penned by a 7-year-old, but I still love that one. I really think the whole RoL album is pseudo-profound bs, but I love it anyway I should clarify, because I don't want to come off as knocking your opinion. I actually agree with you wholeheartedly. The problem, for me anyway, is that Madonna's lyrics have always been her downfall. I've been listening to her literally since the start. I don't say that to mean "I know more about her than you do," but to mean that I've seen little growth over the years in her ability to craft pop lyrics (the same can be said of her acting ability...but I digress). I think the one exception to this is the Like a Prayer album. A lot of the lyrics in that album are exceptional, but that's because she was, for the most part, making a straight-forward pop album. When she tries to transcend that and send some worst of "deep message," that is when - lyrically speaking - she loses her footing. She can do it if she's talking about herself in relation to her feelings, life experiences, etc., a la Oh Father and Till Death Do Us Part. She loses me when she relates herself to the world, as she does in a lot of American Life and Ray of Light. I have no doubt in my mind that she's a literary connoisseur, but that does not a poet make. I've accepted that a long time ago. Consequently, I've leard to drown out most of her lyrics. That is why - short story long - the lyrics in Nothing Really Matter don't bother me. I just accept it as a great dance song and forget the rest. Sorry for the rant... [Edited 12/30/04 14:57pm] | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: VoicesCarry said: Nothing really matters, love is all we need, Everything I give you all comes back to me Nothing takes the past away like the future. etc etc Honestly, it sounds like Madonna wrote these lyrics after attending New Age Getaway Camp '97. Pseudo-profound bullshit. That is my main problem with the song. Star light star bright first star i see tonight star light star bright uh yeah That sounds like it was penned by a 7-year-old, but I still love that one. I really think the whole RoL album is pseudo-profound bs, but I love it anyway I should clarify, because I don't want to come off as knocking your opinion. I actually agree with you wholeheartedly. The problem, for me anyway, is that Madonna's lyrics have always been her downfall. I've been listening to her literally since the start. I don't say that to mean "I know more about her than you do," but to mean that I've seen little growth over the years in her ability to craft pop lyrics (the same can be said of her acting ability...but I digress). I think the one exception to this is the Like a Prayer album. A lot of the lyrics in that album are exceptional, but that's because she was, for the most part, making a straight-forward pop album. When she tries to transcend that and send some worst of "deep message," that is when - lyrically speaking - she loses her footing. She can do it if she's talking about herself in relation to her feelings, life experiences, etc., a la Oh Father and Till Death Do Us Part. She loses me when she relates herself to the world, as she does in a lot of American Life and Ray of Light. I have no doubt in my mind that she's a literary connoisseur, but that does not a poet make. I've accepted that a long time ago. Consequently, I've leard to drown out most of her lyrics. That is why - short story long - the lyrics in Nothing Really Matter don't bother me. I just accept it as a great dance song and forget the rest. Sorry for the rant... [Edited 12/30/04 14:57pm] No, just the self-conscious artiness of it. That's what I was talking about. I completely agree with you, though, about her lyrics. She's definitely at her best when it's coming from the heart. When she tries to be earth mother it really sounds ridiculous when you actually study the lyrics (great music, though!). [Edited 12/30/04 15:32pm] | |
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VoicesCarry said: No, just the self-conscious artiness of it. That's what I was talking about. I completely agree with you, though, about her lyrics. She's definitely at her best when it's coming from the heart. When she tries to be earth mother it really sounds ridiculous when you actually study the lyrics (great music, though!).
That's where the help of those "co-producers" comes in handy lol | |
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My problem with "Nothing Really Matters" isn't really the lyrics,it's the song itself.It's the most conventional song on the album,and musically,it sounds like an outtake from the 'Erotica' era.The other songs on 'ROL' are edgy,loud and challenging,but "Nothing Really Matters" is just a standard,by-the-numbers dance track. | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: VoicesCarry said: No, just the self-conscious artiness of it. That's what I was talking about. I completely agree with you, though, about her lyrics. She's definitely at her best when it's coming from the heart. When she tries to be earth mother it really sounds ridiculous when you actually study the lyrics (great music, though!).
That's where the help of those "co-producers" comes in handy lol Yes indeed. | |
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DavidEye said: My problem with "Nothing Really Matters" isn't really the lyrics,it's the song itself.It's the most conventional song on the album,and musically,it sounds like an outtake from the 'Erotica' era.The other songs on 'ROL' are edgy,loud and challenging,but "Nothing Really Matters" is just a standard,by-the-numbers dance track.
I hate its herky-jerky quality, too. | |
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VoicesCarry said: DavidEye said: My problem with "Nothing Really Matters" isn't really the lyrics,it's the song itself.It's the most conventional song on the album,and musically,it sounds like an outtake from the 'Erotica' era.The other songs on 'ROL' are edgy,loud and challenging,but "Nothing Really Matters" is just a standard,by-the-numbers dance track.
I hate its herky-jerky quality, too. Then the herky jerky camera work in that stupid video must have driven you bonkers! | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: VoicesCarry said: I hate its herky-jerky quality, too. Then the herky jerky camera work in that stupid video must have driven you bonkers! That didn't help at all. It's like she decided to accentuate the most annoying quality of the instrumental. | |
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Candy Perfume Girl | |
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GangstaFam said: Candy Perfume Girl
You ain't right. | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: GangstaFam said: Candy Perfume Girl
You ain't right. Yeah I thought that about everyone who voted off TO HAVE AND NOT TO HOLD Let the rain come down...17 days.... | |
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purplegypsy said: RipHer2Shreds said: You ain't right. Yeah I thought that about everyone who voted off TO HAVE AND NOT TO HOLD hehe including me | |
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Nothing Really Matters has to go... but my favorite mix of it is the Virkam Mix You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
authentic power is service- Pope Francis | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: GangstaFam said: Candy Perfume Girl
You ain't right. My voting on this album from here on in is a bit random based on how I feel that particular day. The only thing I know for sure is that "Substitute For Love" is my fave. | |
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VoicesCarry said: RipHer2Shreds said: Mer Girl to go. NRM is a good song, dammit!
Nothing really matters, love is all we need, Everything I give you all comes back to me Nothing takes the past away like the future. etc etc Honestly, it sounds like Madonna wrote these lyrics after attending New Age Getaway Camp '97. Pseudo-profound bullshit. That is my main problem with the song. Aren't all her songs like that? | |
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nothing really matters | |
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Mer Girl | |
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NOTHING REALY MATTERS!!!!!
back up off the mergirl you bitches and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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The Power of Goodbye | |
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Nothing Really Matters | |
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Skin "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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PapaSmurf said: The Power of Goodbye
oh you've GOT to be high on hair spray fumes! how dare you! Let the rain come down...17 days.... | |
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