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Thread started 12/29/04 9:37am

misterman

Pete Rock & CL Smooth

What ever happened to CL Smooth and why did the duo went their seperate ways?
I know CL did a few cuts on Pete Rocks "Soul Survivor 2" which is a tight album at it's best. But he was featured as a guest artist.
Can anyone explain why they broke up?

Their last cd "The Main Engriedient" is a classic by the way!
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Reply #1 posted 12/29/04 9:46am

namepeace

Agreed on all counts. I am curious myself as to why these cats don't work together more.
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Reply #2 posted 12/29/04 9:57am

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probably creative differences.
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Reply #3 posted 12/29/04 10:16am

CinisterCee

I saw them on a reunion tour this year, in promotion of the new songs on Soul Survivor 2 on BBE Records, and their Best Of collection on Rhino Records.

music Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth "Appreciate" (2004)
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Reply #4 posted 12/29/04 10:25am

CinisterCee

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Reply #5 posted 12/29/04 10:34am

CinisterCee

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Reply #6 posted 12/29/04 10:41am

CinisterCee

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Reply #7 posted 12/29/04 11:24am

misterman

Thanks alot for the info.
I have the Soul Survivor II cd.
That cd is pretty tight.
Now I want to get their best of cd.
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Reply #8 posted 12/29/04 11:43am

JANFAN4L

Don't know what happened to them, but they're definitely missed.

Loved "T.R.O.Y."

...and their spot in the Sprite "Obey Your Thirst" commercial! I know y'all remember that rap.
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Reply #9 posted 12/29/04 11:47am

namepeace

Love "T.R.O.Y." but "The Main Ingredient" may be their hottest joint ever.
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Reply #10 posted 12/29/04 3:16pm

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Pete is arguably the best Hip Hop Producer of all time. Soul Survivor I is a lil better than the new one but that song Appreciate on there is dope.
"Thinking like the Keys on Prince's piano, we'll be just fine"
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Reply #11 posted 12/29/04 4:12pm

namepeace

Soulchild82 said:

Pete is arguably the best Hip Hop Producer of all time. Soul Survivor I is a lil better than the new one but that song Appreciate on there is dope.


You could make that argument, he's definitely the quintessential hip-hop producer.

But Primo, Rick Rubin, The Bomb Squad, Dr. Dre and the incomparable Madlib work their way into that convo too!
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Reply #12 posted 12/29/04 4:36pm

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the beat is phat but the rhyme is obese in The Basement...
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Reply #13 posted 12/29/04 5:08pm

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I dont have any of their stuff but i know they r on a obscure newjack jam by Basic black called "she's mine".....damn thats a hot club bnager right there.


Arn't they the rappers on New kids on the block track "dirty dawg"? I guess they had their ghetto licence revoked 4ever after that got released.
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Reply #14 posted 12/29/04 5:13pm

CinisterCee

thesexofit said:

I dont have any of their stuff but i know they r on a obscure newjack jam by Basic black called "she's mine".....damn thats a hot club bnager right there.


That is some obscure shit! biggrin
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Reply #15 posted 12/29/04 5:16pm

thesexofit

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CinisterCee said:

thesexofit said:

I dont have any of their stuff but i know they r on a obscure newjack jam by Basic black called "she's mine".....damn thats a hot club bnager right there.


That is some obscure shit! biggrin


U heard of it? I even got the video. Nice and smooth ain't in the video though. Basic black r wearing there hammer costumes. I'd kill 4 a 12" of that track. i only got it on album.
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Reply #16 posted 12/29/04 5:17pm

CinisterCee

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U heard of it? I even got the video. Nice and smooth ain't in the video though. Basic black r wearing there hammer costumes. I'd kill 4 a 12" of that track. i only got it on album.


No I don't remember it!
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Reply #17 posted 12/29/04 5:20pm

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CinisterCee said:

thesexofit said:



U heard of it? I even got the video. Nice and smooth ain't in the video though. Basic black r wearing there hammer costumes. I'd kill 4 a 12" of that track. i only got it on album.


No I don't remember it!


Damn, DOES ANYONE REMEMBER NEWJACK? Was everyone listening only to sonic youth or guns n roses back then?

Newjack fans:-0
modern rnb fans:- too many
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Reply #18 posted 12/29/04 5:24pm

CinisterCee

lol no this is the first new jack song you mentioned that I didn't know
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Reply #19 posted 12/29/04 5:32pm

thesexofit

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CinisterCee said:

lol no this is the first new jack song you mentioned that I didn't know


Fair enough. I know some obscre shit though. Basic black were obscure. They were Guy clones. Gene Griffen (producer) left teddy and cloned Guy. Good album though. Gene is teddy riley's uncle I think? He did "why u wanna get funky on me" by Today.
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Reply #20 posted 12/29/04 5:35pm

CinisterCee

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Fair enough. I know some obscre shit though. Basic black were obscure. They were Guy clones. Gene Griffen (producer) left teddy and cloned Guy. Good album though. Gene is teddy riley's uncle I think? He did "why u wanna get funky on me" by Today.


Yeah see I know that Today song. Basic Black is obscure for sure. thumbs up!
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Reply #21 posted 12/29/04 5:35pm

RipHer2Shreds

Don't even get me started on They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.) - which is exactly what we're doing smile I used to wear that one out. I remember thinking Mic Checka by Das EFX was Pete Rock and CL Smooth at first.
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Reply #22 posted 12/29/04 5:36pm

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CL smooth and the Chocolate boy wonder....them cats were nice....T.R.O.Y was the joint...
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Reply #23 posted 12/29/04 5:40pm

RipHer2Shreds

thesexofit said:



U heard of it? I even got the video. Nice and smooth ain't in the video though. Basic black r wearing there hammer costumes. I'd kill 4 a 12" of that track. i only got it on album.

Basic Black ain't that obscure. Sounds a lot like Rub You the Right Way though. Never saw the video.
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Reply #24 posted 12/29/04 5:44pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

thesexofit said:



U heard of it? I even got the video. Nice and smooth ain't in the video though. Basic black r wearing there hammer costumes. I'd kill 4 a 12" of that track. i only got it on album.

Basic Black ain't that obscure. Sounds a lot like Rub You the Right Way though. Never saw the video.


Yeaj it does kinda. I think Jam and Lewis tried to get hard on "rub u the right way". Before that Jam/lewis were just pop producers (heavily influenced by Newjack though)

I love the vid to "rub u the right way". Johnny trying to dance. Too funny.....
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Reply #25 posted 12/29/04 5:48pm

CinisterCee

RipHer2Shreds said:

thesexofit said:



U heard of it? I even got the video. Nice and smooth ain't in the video though. Basic black r wearing there hammer costumes. I'd kill 4 a 12" of that track. i only got it on album.

Basic Black ain't that obscure. Sounds a lot like Rub You the Right Way though. Never saw the video.


Tryna steal thesexofit's thunder, ha?
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Reply #26 posted 12/29/04 5:50pm

RipHer2Shreds

CinisterCee said:

RipHer2Shreds said:


Basic Black ain't that obscure. Sounds a lot like Rub You the Right Way though. Never saw the video.


Tryna steal thesexofit's thunder, ha?

Huh uh. Tryin' to shame you razz
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Reply #27 posted 12/29/04 5:55pm

thesexofit

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CinisterCee said:

RipHer2Shreds said:


Basic Black ain't that obscure. Sounds a lot like Rub You the Right Way though. Never saw the video.


Tryna steal thesexofit's thunder, ha?


I wish everyone could here "she's mine", it is such a hard swing tune.

Holy shit. I just checked amazon and they have the album! Lowest Price? $48!!! Man that is rare shit 4 a newjack album.
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Reply #28 posted 12/29/04 7:07pm

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namepeace said:

Soulchild82 said:

Pete is arguably the best Hip Hop Producer of all time. Soul Survivor I is a lil better than the new one but that song Appreciate on there is dope.


You could make that argument, he's definitely the quintessential hip-hop producer.

But Primo, Rick Rubin, The Bomb Squad, Dr. Dre and the incomparable Madlib work their way into that convo too!


Primo, & Rick yeah but Bomb squad and Dre... good but not the greatest. One of my fav Pete Rock Beat is Das EFx Real Hip hop (remix)
"Thinking like the Keys on Prince's piano, we'll be just fine"
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Reply #29 posted 12/30/04 7:22am

namepeace

Soulchild82 said:

namepeace said:



You could make that argument, he's definitely the quintessential hip-hop producer.

But Primo, Rick Rubin, The Bomb Squad, Dr. Dre and the incomparable Madlib work their way into that convo too!


Primo, & Rick yeah but Bomb squad and Dre... good but not the greatest. One of my fav Pete Rock Beat is Das EFx Real Hip hop (remix)


The Bomb Squad produced the greatest hip-hop album of all time (It Takes a Nation of Millions . . .) and arguably one of the greatest tracks of any genre of the last 20 years (Rebel Without A Pause). IMHO, that alone earns them greatness. They not only changed the sound of hip-hop, but of pop music in general.

Dre, I kinda see where you're comin' from, but look at his body of work overall and objectively you have to consider him great.

In about 5 years, Madlib will immediately come to mind, rest assured.
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