I know that on here we gripe a lot about the state of the popular music of the day. Do you think that we are simply out of touch with what is the trend of the day? For instance, this guy that works for me is in his 60's..I am 24. He said that Prince is overrated and thinks that Neil Diamond is MUCH BETTER than Prince. Before yall die from shock..LOL..he does have a degree of music taste..he's into Miles Davis, Coltrane, Ellington etc BUT those were the artists of HIS day..do you think that since we cant identify with whats out therefore we dislike it like my employee does...obviously Prince is a talent but it seems like every generation has a certain HATE for the popular music of that particular time. How much of that influences our feelings about current music and how much of it is legitimate?

neil diamond is the same type of music ,realy flamoyant flashy glam sorta style without going over the top like elton or liberache.if you listen to Neil Diamond you can see where hes coming from & trying to get across .posative spiritual enlightenment .people realy get UP @ old neil shows ..people already regard prince as say not as good as usher 4 example you know how it goes out of style in time ,but you gotta do your wash

"..people already regard prince as say not as good as usher 4 example"

huh?????

yes, we probably are out of touch. but that's fine with me. i catch on to the occasional new thing. or can enjoy what i know is the crap out there on its own level. so i'm not really worried about it.

I donno, since I'm 19 and bitch as much as anyone here about popular music today.

I read alot of bitching about Neptunes, when you know darn well they are skilled arrangers/producers/writers.

I think that guy is just typical. Like you said those were artists of his day. Whereas I'm always listening for someone great to come along. It's obvious that he never really listened to Prince. We all know Prince's stature in 80's music history. We know that he throws down live, I'd venture to say more then Neil Diamond ever did, though I respect him for still being able to draw sellout crowds. But c'mon, there's been artist since the ones that he mentioned that have been very impressive over the years; Early Michael Jackson, Prince, Nirvana, White Stripes, PJ Harvey, Tori Amos, Bjork, Radiohead, Stevie Wonder, some NIN, Ani Difranco and others, that if he and others would take the time and listen to, would know that music didn't stop at 1970.

CinisterCee said:

ok I always hear about the Neptunes but all their stuff I hear is just as corny as everything else out...

didnt they do that rap song called GRINDIN? Now that was C O R N Y!!!
then that song Drop It Like Its Hot by Snoop is corny too...zzzzz

then that song ummm...what was it..where the Pharrell guy was trying to sing..it reminded me of Curtis Mayfield a little bit..I cant remember the name of the song tho...is that supposed to be so skilled and great? What are their good stuff!

CinisterCee said:

Too bad all their stuff sounds the same!

the song i was tryna think of is called FRONTIN..thats the Neptunes right?

I mean that song was ok..it was a breath of fresh air in the midst of the mess on radio BUT it reminds me of Curtis Mayfield or some 70's stuff..I cant listen to that and say thats some stellar work! Its above average for todays music but run of the mile in the grand scheme of things

LoveAlive said:

"Grindin" and "Drop It" are THE most minimalist works in their entire oeuvre! I enjoy those songs the same way I like mid-80s electro b-boy hiphop stuff.

VoicesCarry said:

CinisterCee said:

You can't spot a Neptunes song from miles away?

I can tell alot of artists by their unique sounds.

For instance, some Heart song just came on the radio that somehow I've never heard before, yet, I knew it was them.

CinisterCee said:

u still aint answewr my question

what is their good stuff..I wanna check them out and make a thorough and fair analysis of them....

CinisterCee said:

Oh well, you like the Neptunes....I suppose I don't. I think they're tremendously overrated as producers.

LoveAlive said:

any album they produced thoroughly.




That shit is a far cry from "Grindin". They write gorgeous jazz chord changes and BRIDGES in songs. The more intricate songs are usually non-single album-cuts.

KELIS?
please dont tell me that they did that MilkShake song by her

LoveAlive said:

Yes, but you'll never discover the Neptunes full spectrum if you think you can learn their discography via radio.

CinisterCee said:

CinisterCee said:

I guess

that MILKSHAKE song was a farce...a joke!

did they do the song LETS GET BLOWN by Snoop? If that doesnt sound like SLAVE I dont know what does...

GrayKing said:

that's how i feel. every now and then i hear something i like that's new. but i love what i love and most of it just isn't the new stuff. like i like the new song "bring 'em out" by T.I. but i don't see myself buying the cd.

CinisterCee said:

i did not know that they did "rump shaker", i saw it on vh1. am i the only one on earth who didn't know this?

VoicesCarry said:

i dunno. i always thought that they're music is well tailored for the person they are making it for whether i like the song or not. i did like the second version they did of Jay-z's "excuse me" as well as the first version.

VoicesCarry said:

i thought you were older.

LoveAlive said:

If anyone needs me, I'll be trying to glean a world perspective from a Doonesbury comic strip.

No, the majority of music is just crap nowdays.

*and if I'm "out of touch" then I'd like to stay that way.

CinisterCee said:

I'd like to point out that "Milkshake" does not appear on the album recommended above.

VoicesCarry said:

Ditto, and I'm 14.

MrSquiggle said:

16

pretentious teenagers