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paisleypark4 said: Scorpion said: Which appearance? 
Shiiiiit...I don't care, she looked good in both! 
I like the wet weave....  The first and second one. But that All 4U and Damita Jo wigs GOT TO GO!!!! So does Michaels "Monica Lewinski" wig  please take that shit off MIKE! 
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Scorpion said:
Shiiiiit...I don't care, she looked good in both! She looks awesome in those pics. I love the white suit and the couture shades. Do it, GRRRL! | |
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Actually i love Michael in that pic. He looks so good in that suit | |
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Martinelli said: Janet always looks better with less or no make-up.
She looked like a fuck ugly drag queen 4 most of the 'All 4 u' promo shots...she don't need all that make-up. Damn Clitina, u sho' iz ugly girl...  i guess Xtina went home for the holidays... Walt must be proud of his two favorite Mousekeeters You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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Scorpion said: Martinelli said: Janet always looks better with less or no make-up.
She looked like a fuck ugly drag queen 4 most of the 'All 4 u' promo shots...she don't need all that make-up. Damn Clitina, u sho' iz ugly girl... Yeah, I completey agree about the make-up issue. But, there's nothing wrong with Chris in that pic, maybe her teeth are slightly yellow but that can be fixed with teeth whitener. Christina looks a bit cartoonish (standing next to Mickey Mouse looking cartoonish--what a surprise), but I don't think she looks ugly either in that photo. | |
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Go 'head, Xtina. Shake them haters off.
P.S.: Still don't know why in the h*ll we brought up Xtina in this thread -- wholly irrelevant. [Edited 12/27/04 15:36pm] | |
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JANFAN4L said: Go 'head, Xtina. Shake them haters off.
P.S.: Still don't know why in the h*ll we brought up Xtina in this thread -- wholly irrelevant. [Edited 12/27/04 15:36pm] because Xtina will one day take her place amgonst the other Gay Diva Icons that have come before her. Judy Liza Joan Crawford Bette Barbara Donnna Madonna Janet Joan Rivers Celine Diana Kylie Cher and whomever else i'm forgetting You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ok Janet did used to look a mess in the TVR days wwith the pink and red weave then the stuff was always tangled it was long overdue time for some new hair Janet | |
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ehuffnsd said: JANFAN4L said: Go 'head, Xtina. Shake them haters off.
P.S.: Still don't know why in the h*ll we brought up Xtina in this thread -- wholly irrelevant. [Edited 12/27/04 15:36pm] because Xtina will one day take her place amgonst the other Gay Diva Icons that have come before her. Judy Liza Joan Crawford Bette Barbara Donnna Madonna Janet Joan Rivers Celine Diana Kylie Cher and whomever else i'm forgetting Joan Rivers????? Oh and Britney is happily making her way into that list as well | |
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ehuffnsd said: JANFAN4L said: Go 'head, Xtina. Shake them haters off.
P.S.: Still don't know why in the h*ll we brought up Xtina in this thread -- wholly irrelevant. [Edited 12/27/04 15:36pm] because Xtina will one day take her place amgonst the other Gay Diva Icons that have come before her. Judy Liza Joan Crawford Bette Barbara Donnna Madonna Janet Joan Rivers Celine Diana Kylie Cher and whomever else i'm forgetting You forgot... Beyoncé Li'l Kim Mary J. Blige Britney Deborah Cox Gwen Stefani Mariah Missy Elliot Anastacia Brandy Patti Labelle Chaka Khan Whitney Houston Thelma Houston Gloria Gaynor The Weather Girls RuPaul Aaliyah Mya Ciara Lindsay Lohan Kelly Clarkson Monica Kelis | |
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JANFAN4L said: ehuffnsd said: because Xtina will one day take her place amgonst the other Gay Diva Icons that have come before her. Judy Liza Joan Crawford Bette Barbara Donnna Madonna Janet Joan Rivers Celine Diana Kylie Cher and whomever else i'm forgetting You forgot... Beyoncé Li'l Kim Mary J. Blige Britney Deborah Cox Gwen Stefani Mariah Missy Elliot Anastacia Brandy Patti Labelle Chaka Khan Whitney Houston Thelma Houston Gloria Gaynor The Weather Girls RuPaul Aaliyah Mya Ciara Lindsay Lohan Kelly Clarkson Monica Kelis Can we conclude that every female singer/artist is a gay icon of sorts? | |
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jayaredee said: Can we conclude that every female singer/artist is a gay icon of sorts? Only if you can't name a female singer that isn't a gay icon. | |
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jayaredee said: JANFAN4L said: You forgot... Beyoncé Li'l Kim Mary J. Blige Britney Deborah Cox Gwen Stefani Mariah Missy Elliot Anastacia Brandy Patti Labelle Chaka Khan Whitney Houston Thelma Houston Gloria Gaynor The Weather Girls RuPaul Aaliyah Mya Ciara Lindsay Lohan Kelly Clarkson Monica Kelis Can we conclude that every female singer/artist is a gay icon of sorts? Pretty much. That's what's so troubling... | |
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Tell me how in the hell did Ciara jump into the story?  | |
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ABeautifulOne said: Tell me how in the hell did Ciara jump into the story?
When "Goodies" became a hit. | |
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JANFAN4L said: jayaredee said: Can we conclude that every female singer/artist is a gay icon of sorts? Pretty much. That's what's so troubling... NO Icons are different... they aren't every singer in the world. There are the Icons... it's hard to explain but not every female singer is an icon. To be an Icon it's like there has to be a connection something that makes people feel they are someway conncected to them... Ones that are standard in Drag Shows everywhere. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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terms like Diva and Icon are thrown around to easily these days...
they are earned titles... Whitney and Mariah if they can make a comeback would rise to Icon status... it's like you have to surive hardship and ridcule and be looked down upon by major media outlets to become one You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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forgot to mention
Tina Turner You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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JANFAN4L said: ABeautifulOne said: Tell me how in the hell did Ciara jump into the story?
When "Goodies" became a hit. naw gay people wasn't dancing to that song in the south trust me I know.They was still jamming on Britney with Toxic in the club I saw it for myself last night | |
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ehuffnsd said: JANFAN4L said: Pretty much. That's what's so troubling... NO Icons are different... they aren't every singer in the world. There are the Icons... it's hard to explain but not every female singer is an icon. To be an Icon it's like there has to be a connection something that makes people feel they are someway conncected to them... Ones that are standard in Drag Shows everywhere. Thanks for the definition, I really needed it. Problem with the term "gay icon" is that any female singer can fall into it because it's not set in stone. What really constitutes a "gay icon"? It's very limiting to call someone a "gay icon" and have that person represent a prismatic, multidimensional (very fractured) community. For some reason, I find it hard to believe homo-thugs, men on the D.L. or gay brothas in the South Side of Chicago, Compton and the S.W.A.T.S. are into BARBARA STREISAND, MADONNA AND BETTE MIDLER. | |
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ABeautifulOne said: JANFAN4L said: When "Goodies" became a hit. naw gay people wasn't dancing to that song in the south trust me I know.They was still jamming on Britney with Toxic in the club I saw it for myself last night Destiny's Children are "gay icons," too. Beyoncé being the most "bootylicious" of the lot!  | |
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JANFAN4L said: ehuffnsd said: NO Icons are different... they aren't every singer in the world. There are the Icons... it's hard to explain but not every female singer is an icon. To be an Icon it's like there has to be a connection something that makes people feel they are someway conncected to them... Ones that are standard in Drag Shows everywhere. Thanks for the definition, I really needed it. Problem with the term "gay icon" is that any female singer can fall into it because it's not set in stone. What really constitutes a "gay icon"? It's very limiting to call someone a "gay icon" and have that person represent a prismatic, multidimensional (very fractured) community. For some reason, I find it hard to believe homo-thugs, men on the D.L. or gay brothas in the South Side of Chicago, Compton and the S.W.A.T.S. are into BARBARA STREISAND, MADONNA AND BETTE MIDLER. and i find hard for a striaght girl to me what a gay icon is... and most of they types of homosexuals you mention do not identify as gay You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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JANFAN4L said: ehuffnsd said: NO Icons are different... they aren't every singer in the world. There are the Icons... it's hard to explain but not every female singer is an icon. To be an Icon it's like there has to be a connection something that makes people feel they are someway conncected to them... Ones that are standard in Drag Shows everywhere. Thanks for the definition, I really needed it. Problem with the term "gay icon" is that any female singer can fall into it because it's not set in stone. What really constitutes a "gay icon"? It's very limiting to call someone a "gay icon" and have that person represent a prismatic, multidimensional (very fractured) community. For some reason, I find it hard to believe homo-thugs, men on the D.L. or gay brothas in the South Side of Chicago, Compton and the S.W.A.T.S. are into BARBARA STREISAND, MADONNA AND BETTE MIDLER. Exactly I know gay people into death metal, ok The stereotype that all gay people go and buy Kylie records is silly There are plenty of straight people who enjoy Madonna and Kylie all the same [Edited 12/27/04 16:40pm] | |
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jayaredee said: JANFAN4L said: Thanks for the definition, I really needed it. Problem with the term "gay icon" is that any female singer can fall into it because it's not set in stone. What really constitutes a "gay icon"? It's very limiting to call someone a "gay icon" and have that person represent a prismatic, multidimensional (very fractured) community. For some reason, I find it hard to believe homo-thugs, men on the D.L. or gay brothas in the South Side of Chicago, Compton and the S.W.A.T.S. are into BARBARA STREISAND, MADONNA AND BETTE MIDLER. Exactly I know gay people into death metal, ok The stereotype that all gay people go and buy Kylie records is silly There are plenty of straight people who enjoy Madonna and Kylie all the same [Edited 12/27/04 16:40pm] Rob Halford... great guy lol You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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DC3 are definitely gay icons. And Beyonce? Don't even get me started. She put herself in a giant champagne glass for chrissakes! Definite gay icon! |
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gay friendly and gay icon are different You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: JANFAN4L said: Thanks for the definition, I really needed it. Problem with the term "gay icon" is that any female singer can fall into it because it's not set in stone. What really constitutes a "gay icon"? It's very limiting to call someone a "gay icon" and have that person represent a prismatic, multidimensional (very fractured) community. For some reason, I find it hard to believe homo-thugs, men on the D.L. or gay brothas in the South Side of Chicago, Compton and the S.W.A.T.S. are into BARBARA STREISAND, MADONNA AND BETTE MIDLER. and i find hard for a striaght girl to me what a gay icon is... and most of they types of homosexuals you mention do not identify as gay Drawing a lot of conclusions, aren't you? You seem to know oh, so much about me for some reason. Are you Miss Cleo? The gay community is as fractured and multi-layered as any other community. For you to make sweeping statements like "gay icon" dismisses the realities of millions of other gay men (and women -- you seem to forget them) who do not live in Chelsea, Boys Town, West Hollywood or subscribe to the trappings of mainstream white gay culture. So I take it KRS-One, Common, Jay-Z, DMX, Rah Digga aren't "gay icons" (because they do hip hop?) Henry Rollins, Motley Crue, Pink Floyd (because they do rock?), Marvin Gaye, Donnie Hathaway, Curtis Mayfield (because of soul?) Miles Davis, Jack DeJohnette, etc. etc. etc. You're really selling the "gay commmunity" short if you believe this as such. Gay people aren't as cut and dry as "Madonna, Kylie, Janet, Britney, blazhay, blazhah." I find it hard to believe you really stepped up into a black or latino or gay inner-city club in Detroit, South Los Angeles, the Fifth Ward, S.W.A.Ts, Gary, Indiana and tell me they're bumpin' Barbara Streisand, Madonna and Lady M? Isn't the gay rights movement about breaking down stereotypes, not "constructing" them? | |
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JANFAN4L said: ehuffnsd said: and i find hard for a striaght girl to me what a gay icon is... and most of they types of homosexuals you mention do not identify as gay Drawing a lot of conclusions, aren't you? You seem to know oh, so much about me for some reason. Are you Miss Cleo? The gay community is as fractured and multi-layered as any other community. For you to make sweeping statements like "gay icon" dismisses the realities of millions of other gay men (and women -- you seem to forget them) who do not live in Chelsea, Boys Town, West Hollywood or subscribe to the trappings of mainstream white gay culture. So I take it KRS-One, Common, Jay-Z, DMX, Rah Digga aren't "gay icons" (because they do hip hop?) Henry Rollins, Motley Crue, Pink Floyd (because they do rock?), Marvin Gaye, Donnie Hathaway, Curtis Mayfield (because of soul?) Miles Davis, Jack DeJohnette, etc. etc. etc. You're really selling the "gay commmunity" short if you believe this as such. Gay people aren't as cut and dry as "Madonna, Kylie, Janet, Britney, blazhay, blazhah." I find it hard to believe you really stepped up into a black or latino or gay inner-city club in Detroit, South Los Angeles, the Fifth Ward, S.W.A.Ts, Gary, Indiana and tell me they're bumpin' Barbara Streisand, Madonna and Lady M? Isn't the gay rights movement about breaking down stereotypes, not "constructing" them? I am a sterotype my dear... Gay HIV+ addict and into Leather You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: I am a sterotype my dear... Gay HIV+ addict and into Leather A reality for you as an individual, surely not a representation of all. | |
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jayaredee said: JANFAN4L said: Thanks for the definition, I really needed it. Problem with the term "gay icon" is that any female singer can fall into it because it's not set in stone. What really constitutes a "gay icon"? It's very limiting to call someone a "gay icon" and have that person represent a prismatic, multidimensional (very fractured) community. For some reason, I find it hard to believe homo-thugs, men on the D.L. or gay brothas in the South Side of Chicago, Compton and the S.W.A.T.S. are into BARBARA STREISAND, MADONNA AND BETTE MIDLER. Exactly I know gay people into death metal, ok The stereotype that all gay people go and buy Kylie records is silly There are plenty of straight people who enjoy Madonna and Kylie all the same [Edited 12/27/04 16:40pm]  There you go, ladies and gentlemen: reality. | |
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