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Thread started 12/19/04 4:11pm

BillieSparks

Robert Johnson

Any Robert Johnson fans here?
wwww.myspace.com/chessvalentine
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Reply #1 posted 12/19/04 6:14pm

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One of the paths all guitarists should travel.

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Reply #2 posted 12/19/04 7:33pm

BillieSparks

yep I got that cd, I wanna get his boxset next..
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Reply #3 posted 12/19/04 7:35pm

Dewrede

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The boxset contains everything he ever recorded
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Reply #4 posted 12/19/04 7:40pm

theAudience

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BillieSparks said:

yep I got that cd, I wanna get his boxset next..

Be aware that the CD you've got has been remastered.
So the same takes may sound better than the box set.

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Reply #5 posted 12/20/04 5:44am

DavidEye

In 1989,Prince and his then-manager Al Magnoli announced that they would be shooting "The Robert Johnson Story",in which Prince was gonna star (!).It could have been really interesting but unfortunatly,it never materialized.
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Reply #6 posted 12/20/04 7:25am

CookieMonster

I remember it coming out in the early 90's. On cd, that is. It was very hard to get your hands on vinyl, then all of a sudden it was there; ALL known recordings.

I was so happy. In the meantime I am even happier it has been remastered, but still I wish I had my old vinyl again. 3/4 of my vinyl collection 'disappeared' in one of my many moves....

The music? It is horribly good. I know this is the level of playing people like Paige and Clapton try to achieve. Still, no matter how they try, them old recordings of Johnson himself cannot beat I ever heard...

And then all the urban legends concerning him... I wish they would make a good movie out of this...
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Reply #7 posted 12/20/04 8:18am

TheRealFiness

CookieMonster said:

I remember it coming out in the early 90's. On cd, that is. It was very hard to get your hands on vinyl, then all of a sudden it was there; ALL known recordings.

I was so happy. In the meantime I am even happier it has been remastered, but still I wish I had my old vinyl again. 3/4 of my vinyl collection 'disappeared' in one of my many moves....

The music? It is horribly good. I know this is the level of playing people like Paige and Clapton try to achieve. Still, no matter how they try, them old recordings of Johnson himself cannot beat I ever heard...

And then all the urban legends concerning him... I wish they would make a good movie out of this...



Ahhh, the Legend of Robert Johnson.. the story of the Crossroads. well, story goes that RJ went down to the crossroads and sold his soul, to play the blues,whether the story is true or not.its always been urban Legend,

also on how Robert Died was, he was playin a Juke Joint, and a lady got him a drink of which was poisoned.sadly no one really knows where Robert is Buried. sad
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Reply #8 posted 12/20/04 8:42am

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Yes.

My Robert Johnson story: Before a family vacation to the deep south a couple of years ago, I told each of my 2 guitar playing kids (15 and 12 years old) to take along a pick (tho' they left their instruments behind) and ask no questions. I also told my son to give me a small camping shovel that we use when backpacking. When we got to the "crossroads" (US Rt. 61 and Mississippi Rt. 49), I pulled over to the shoulder, dug a hole in the dirt and had each of them throw a pick in the hole. At the time, my kids thought I was nuts - my wife told them, "Kids, that's your dad, get used to it". Later they thought it was cool.

My daughter insists that when she returned she could play chords that she was struggling with before we left.



BTW, I had a feeling that theAudience and Dewrede would show up on this thread...
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Reply #9 posted 12/20/04 10:22am

Slave2daGroove

jackflash said:

Yes.

My Robert Johnson story: Before a family vacation to the deep south a couple of years ago, I told each of my 2 guitar playing kids (15 and 12 years old) to take along a pick (tho' they left their instruments behind) and ask no questions. I also told my son to give me a small camping shovel that we use when backpacking. When we got to the "crossroads" (US Rt. 61 and Mississippi Rt. 49), I pulled over to the shoulder, dug a hole in the dirt and had each of them throw a pick in the hole. At the time, my kids thought I was nuts - my wife told them, "Kids, that's your dad, get used to it". Later they thought it was cool.

My daughter insists that when she returned she could play chords that she was struggling with before we left.



BTW, I had a feeling that theAudience and Dewrede would show up on this thread...
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Gotta Love people who raise intelligent musicians!

JackFlash worship

I love Robert Johnson but the urban legend aspect always put him in a certain place with me. Then I saw "Blues", a documentary (one of the many on blues I've seen) that was based on African Americans only. In it, Robert Johnson's son and people that traveled with him and played like him took the myth and made it human for me. Robert Johnson influenced so many people and his music was amazing but to know he was just a man struggling to make a living with his music is kind of important to me.

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Reply #10 posted 12/20/04 11:20am

diamondpearl1

with the things i've been thru in my life his voice/slide guitar's never hesitated 2 move me 2 tears...
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Reply #11 posted 12/20/04 11:47am

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theAudience said:



nod

One of the paths all guitarists should travel.

tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm


Errr wouldn't that be crossroads? confused
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Reply #12 posted 12/20/04 11:48am

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Reply #13 posted 12/20/04 12:01pm

RipHer2Shreds

Love him! He's long been one of my favorites



Before Columbia came out with the complete recordings, I would check this record out from the library ad nauseam when I was a teenager! I never tire of his music - so much history and richness to it. Nobody can even come close to playing as brilliantly as he did. Sometimes it sounds like he's playing 2 guitars at once.
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Reply #14 posted 12/20/04 12:31pm

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sinisterpentatonic said:

theAudience said:



nod

One of the paths all guitarists should travel.

tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm


Errr wouldn't that be crossroads? confused

lol You got me!

I considered that after i'd posted.
Thought i'd be a little more subtle. cool

Good catch. nod

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Reply #15 posted 12/20/04 2:10pm

Miles

Sorry to put a damper on all this Robert Johnson love, but I've always felt Johnson to be somewhat over-rated. Personally, I find his music to be good, but certainly no better than roughly contemporary bluesmen like Skip James, Blind Lemon Jefferson or Son House.

I've never really appreciated the 'cult' of Robert Johnson, as it tends to over-shadow so many other blues greats from the '20s-'30s era, some of which I feel are superior to him. Just because Eric Clapton and Peter Green venerate him and have tried to sell records by using his name, I'm still not overly impressed.

I think Johnson's good, but not that good. And the poor boy never lived to see a dime of the money from record/ CD sales of his 30 odd recordings. Now, that's a blues life for you.
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Reply #16 posted 12/20/04 3:07pm

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Miles said:

Sorry to put a damper on all this Robert Johnson love, but I've always felt Johnson to be somewhat over-rated. Personally, I find his music to be good, but certainly no better than roughly contemporary bluesmen like Skip James, Blind Lemon Jefferson or Son House.

I've never really appreciated the 'cult' of Robert Johnson, as it tends to over-shadow so many other blues greats from the '20s-'30s era, some of which I feel are superior to him. Just because Eric Clapton and Peter Green venerate him and have tried to sell records by using his name, I'm still not overly impressed.

I think Johnson's good, but not that good. And the poor boy never lived to see a dime of the money from record/ CD sales of his 30 odd recordings. Now, that's a blues life for you.

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Reply #17 posted 12/20/04 3:25pm

RipHer2Shreds

Miles said:

Sorry to put a damper on all this Robert Johnson love, but I've always felt Johnson to be somewhat over-rated. Personally, I find his music to be good, but certainly no better than roughly contemporary bluesmen like Skip James, Blind Lemon Jefferson or Son House.

I've never really appreciated the 'cult' of Robert Johnson, as it tends to over-shadow so many other blues greats from the '20s-'30s era, some of which I feel are superior to him. Just because Eric Clapton and Peter Green venerate him and have tried to sell records by using his name, I'm still not overly impressed.

I think Johnson's good, but not that good. And the poor boy never lived to see a dime of the money from record/ CD sales of his 30 odd recordings. Now, that's a blues life for you.

hmph!
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Reply #18 posted 12/21/04 12:30am

Rhastus

I need to go get my box set, its at my Mom's house. Great stuff
We don't need no microwave


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Reply #19 posted 12/21/04 12:32am

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Miles said:

I think Johnson's good, but not that good. And the poor boy never lived to see a dime of the money from record/ CD sales of his 30 odd recordings. Now, that's a blues life for you.


LoL

And true about the other blues artists. That the legend overshadows the truth, that is. I still like his playing lots.
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Reply #20 posted 12/21/04 8:42am

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I remember the first time I heard Robert Johnson, my brother in-law was playing some of his songs to me, and I just didn't 'get it'. I said that's terrible ! Nowaday's I hear Him with different ears. His voice is so unique, and his playing so brilliant, the myth has surely been milked, but personally he really has intrigued me with his sound . A true pioneer.
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Reply #21 posted 12/21/04 11:38am

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When I first heard him, I was a bit disappointed. I had heard he was the greatest blues guitarist/singer/songwriter ever. So I was expecting BB King or Buddy Guy. Not exactly.

First of all, there's no band. It's all acoustic guitar/voice. Then, reading the liner notes to the first song Kind Hearted Woman, it said that song contained the only guitar solo he ever recorded!

Okay, but one hundred listens later I'm thinking, "this is one guy playing?" It sounds like at least two. The way he plays bass & chords is like a piano player. The way he breaks up the 4/4 rhythm is like jazz. His voice is totally genuine. His lyrics are risque even today. The melodies he uses within the limited blues context are beautiful, original, inventive, haunting.

I'm not gonna say he's the greatest (I'm not qualified). But now that I get him, he's absolutely one of the greats.
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Reply #22 posted 12/21/04 11:42am

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andyman91 said:


Okay, but one hundred listens later I'm thinking, "this is one guy playing?" It sounds like at least two. The way he plays bass & chords is like a piano player. The way he breaks up the 4/4 rhythm is like jazz. His voice is totally genuine. His lyrics are risque even today. The melodies he uses within the limited blues context are beautiful, original, inventive, haunting.

I'm not gonna say he's the greatest (I'm not qualified). But now that I get him, he's absolutely one of the greats.

That's exactly what I've thought - how can one man play that well? Brilliant. And I agree about the lyrics. He's got one of my favorites of all time: "you can squeeze my lemon till the juice runs down my leg." Dirrrrrty!
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Reply #23 posted 12/21/04 8:46pm

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andyman91 Said:

When I first heard him, I was a bit disappointed. I had heard he was the greatest blues guitarist/singer/songwriter ever. So I was expecting BB King or Buddy Guy. Not exactly.

Okay, but one hundred listens later I'm thinking, "this is one guy playing?" It sounds like at least two. The way he plays bass & chords is like a piano player. The way he breaks up the 4/4 rhythm is like jazz. His voice is totally genuine. His lyrics are risque even today. The melodies he uses within the limited blues context are beautiful, original, inventive, haunting.

I totally agree with you andyman91. The bit about the piano, I couldn't express; but that's well put! The piano would have been more prominent at the time , and he somehow captures the rolling blues piano style .
yes There's an 'Old Soul' working hard in his work .
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