i was thinking about this today and i think whats missing in todays music besides talent is songs with a good hook! if you look back at all the great songs there was always a hook that would stay in your mind until it drove you crazy and i think these days a majority of the new songs just dont have that memorable hook to it...there have been a few songs released in the last few months with some real good hooks to them..making me think that its not me getting older and not understanding todays music..its just todays music just dont have the hooks that keep me interested

Mazerati said:

I agree mazarati. NONE seem 2 B "stay in ur brain" its so good type of songs and beats. The beat isnt the ONLY disppointing aspect... the words hold NO real serious meanings related 2 what most experience in day 2 day...life. Naturally the talent is lacking among most the bands and their ability 2 really "PUT OUT" something fantastic. Most newbies dont last past a few yrs.....IF that. WE had THE DOORS, JIMI, JANIS, BEE GEES, RAY, STEVIE, JB, JIMI SMITH, TEMPTATIONS, FOUR TOPS 2 name a FEW. AND PRINCE, who is still going strong, keeping music ALIVE. PETER FRAMPTON, VAN HALEN, ERIC CLAPTON, JOHN MAYALL, HALL & OATES, EARTH, WIND & FIRE, SLY & the FAMILY STONE, ARETHA FRANKLIN, DON HENLEY, EAGLES, IRON BUTTERFLY, 2 name a FEW more, have/had hooks 2 die 4 as well. THIS GENERATION of GENRES need all the HELP they can get.

i think what's missing is the true and deep love that past artists have had for music. it was almost as if music was their girlfriend or boyfriend. now i think its more about money and fame. it's just like food. if you put your love in it, it's gonna be good-a classic dish.

Peter Frampton?

Mazerati said:

I totally agree! Many of today's songwriters and producers just don't know how to write a catchy hook.They don't know a thing about melody either.A few days ago,I was listening to "Walk On By" by Dionne Warwick,and I was just mesmerized by the beauty of it....the incredible hook,the gorgeous strings in the bridge,the lovely arrangement.

I think originality is missing from today's music. Someone mentioned arrangements (strings, etc.) You don't hear that now, instead artist rather sample than come up w/ an orginal melody! That's what makes a song last!

Really spectacular voices.

I totally disagree. The voices are there. But let's face it. Someone like Fantasia will be saddled with awful material no matter what. Even Patti Labelle's last single was whack. Don't get me started on Tina Turner. The dominant urban market demands mediocrity, and even the talented artists try to ride the wave.

Mazerati said:

BASS! Everything is so thin and whiny, no power.

WhamBamGlamSlam said:

Fantasia has a spectacular voice? No. You see, Fantasia would have been singing backup at best 30 years ago. Mariah had one but it is damaged beyond repair now.

And the other voices you mention may be spectacular, but they are certainly not from this generation.

I do agree that the material is also lacking, though.
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Maybe this is really the end of music. Maybe all the nice combinations of notes have been tried and worn out. This is a question I kept pondering on when I was a little girl. I asked myself 'is there any life to come after death?' or 'how many stars are there up in the sky?' or 'where did this life originated?' BUT also 'how long can we combine all those notes and melodies and keep music interesting?'...

MarieLouise said:

Scary thought,but there may be some truth to this.

DavidEye said:

I also think about this all the time. It's the same with dance as well. I mean, we have all the standard steps and we just put them together in different combinations. One day we'll run out of things to do. (but I'll have retired by then)

VoicesCarry said:

You need to go back and rewatch Fantasia's first performance of Summertime. No way can you say she doesn't have a spectacular voice. Her album on the otherhand, is just another manufactured album. Sounds just like everything else that is out there, and her voice isn't allowed to shine. What a shame.

Folks we are getting "older", i prefer to say "seasoned"...sad but true. Music today isn't missing anything to the kids today, some of it is catchy, controverisal, and fresh to them, as well as the stuff as when I (we) were younger.

As a "seasoned" music listener, I have beared witness to the births and deaths of heavy metal, arena rock bands, grunge, boy bands, new jack swing..I could go on and on... I have the choice to look back over 30 years of music and hand pick the people/groups/artists who have some major contributions to music

But being a "seasoned", it's very easy to bash the Britney'a and Ashlee's of the world, because they don't hold the artistic candle that let's say Prince has. Prince's career has 25 years in the making, but he has put some "clunkers" out there as well, but it's easy to defend him because what he has accomplished, Oscar, grammies, etc.

I have feel anyone in the music business have some form of talent, whether it's vocal, apperance, or most important "marketability". There will be some from this generation that will stand out, but it will take a minimum of 10 years for them to be appreciated.

Hang in there, the hip-hop, boy bands, girl singers, rappers will have there time on radio and tv, but the true artists if that is what you are looking for will stand the test of time, and it will be this generation when it comes their time to be "seasoned" to decide what is missing from music" when they become our age...

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Well, I don't care for it at any rate. She needs work. Too reedy for my tastes. First time I heard her live, with all the hype considered, I wasn't very impressed. But maybe that's just me.
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Music is missing:

1 Part Earth,Wind,& Fire
A Whole Aretha Franklin
3 Parts of a good producer
1 Part of a good voice
1 Part of a legendary album
Half of Stevie Wonder
1 Good Whitney
1 Good Boy Group
A Whole lot of Love
3 Parts of a Message
1 Whole Set of Instrumanets
and Experimentation

This would make a good industry without a ton of throw aways

DavidEye said:

Unfortunately...Come back in 50 years or so and see if anybody even knows how to play an instrument....

I think soem songs r still catchy. Some rock songs anyway. But R'n'b is pretty hookless I guess. Not enough melody in there. Not since Newjack has any rnb track been really anything above average.

thesexofit said:

Hey that new Mario song is very melodic!


Have a merry christmas and a crunk, new, year!

Stax said:

hehehe.....I love me some Peter Frampton.

VoicesCarry said:

I still say Trenyce! is the most talented American Idol singer so far. She'll be in a first run Broadway play this winter, which means that if she does good she qualifies for Tony consideration. Her album comes out next year and I predict big things. She was classy on the show and got disrespected because of it.

CynicKill said:

He's a ripoff of Usher with the dancing and all and he has the same damn director Usher had for Yeah!.

None of the new cats have employed Joel Silberg to work his genius on
their careers.

Silberg has singlehanded defined many performer's careers over the past 2
decades, and he's left an mark on movie making history that can never
be forgotten.

http://www.amazon.com/exe...ance&s=dvd

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