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Reply #120 posted 12/16/04 11:46am

manki

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Meloh9 said:

Did anyone say superstition origanly done by Jeff Beck written and later performed by Stevie, it's the first thing that comes 2 mind

Oh yes,that's right!
Stevie Wonder gave Superstition2 Jeff Beck but when Stevie
heard the result he was'nt pleased so he decided 2 take it back
2 do it himself & it was a monsterhit.Jeff Beck was upset with
Stevie that he had taken it back.
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Reply #121 posted 12/16/04 1:05pm

VoicesCarry

DavidEye said:

vainandy said:



Donna Summer's "Bad Girls" was originally intended for Cher.


LOL,depending on which "myth" you choose to believe.The story has changed several times,but it's either ONE of these three songs that was intended for Cher...


"Hot Stuff"
"Bad Girls"
"My Baby Understands"


Supposedly,Donna played a demo of one of these songs to her record company president Neil Bogart.He liked the song,but felt that it would be better for Cher (whom he had just signed).Donna was pissed,insisting that SHE would record the song.

lol
[Edited 12/16/04 6:41am]


The author says it was "Bad Girls" in the Deluxe Edition liner notes.
[Edited 12/16/04 13:06pm]
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Reply #122 posted 12/17/04 4:08am

DavidEye

Ace said:

DavidEye said:




Correct.Instead,he gave her a great song called "Protection",which appears on her 1982 self-titled album.This song was originally recorded as a duet,but it was decided that Donna's and Bruce's voices don't blend well together.

First I've heard of that. If you look at the lyric, it seems pretty clearly written from one perspective.



Check out this article...

http://www.donna-tribute....ghits.html

"Protection" is a galloping rock anthem written especially for Donna by Bruce Springsteen and proves conclusively her consummate skills in the arena."When Bruce brought me the song originally",says Donna,"we tried doing it a duo.It was a great idea,but it really didn't work out.The tune just wasn't written that way and eventually I did it myself.But it's funny...I heard him doing it so much in the studio,that to me,I sound just like him on the track".


Although I've never heard it,there is indeed a version of "Protection" that features Bruce and Donna singing it as a duet.
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Reply #123 posted 12/17/04 4:10am

DavidEye

btw,the date on that article is wrong.It was actually December 1982,not December 1978 lol
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Reply #124 posted 12/17/04 1:21pm

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DavidEye said:

vainandy said:



Donna Summer's "Bad Girls" was originally intended for Cher.


LOL,depending on which "myth" you choose to believe.The story has changed several times,but it's either ONE of these three songs that was intended for Cher...


"Hot Stuff"
"Bad Girls"
"My Baby Understands"


Supposedly,Donna played a demo of one of these songs to her record company president Neil Bogart.He liked the song,but felt that it would be better for Cher (whom he had just signed).Donna was pissed,insisting that SHE would record the song.

lol
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You're right but most sources trace it back to "Bad Girls". Have you heard the demo verison of it, producded by Donna herself. It's funky! Can't imagine that was intended for Cher.
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Reply #125 posted 12/17/04 1:24pm

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Donna Summer is mentioned a lot in this thread and here comes another one.

While not a hit song, the track "That's The Way", a new recording from her 2003 hits set "The Journey", was aparently written for No Doubt by Girgio Morder (and I think Keith Forsey).
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Reply #126 posted 12/17/04 1:27pm

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How Did You Get Here(Nobody Suppose To Be Here) by Deborah Cox was actually intended for Patti LaBelle but Patti scoffed and was offended at the song. eek

I wonder how she feels now? mad
"It's not what they call you, it's what you respond to." - Mabel "Madea" Simmons
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Reply #127 posted 12/17/04 1:33pm

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one2three said:

How Did You Get Here(Nobody Suppose To Be Here) by Deborah Cox was actually intended for Patti LaBelle but Patti scoffed and was offended at the song. eek

Do you mean she was offended that this song was offered to her? Or offended by some of the lyrics? confuse
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Reply #128 posted 12/17/04 1:36pm

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Ace said:

one2three said:

How Did You Get Here(Nobody Suppose To Be Here) by Deborah Cox was actually intended for Patti LaBelle but Patti scoffed and was offended at the song. eek

Do you mean she was offended that this song was offered to her? Or offended by some of the lyrics? confuse



I think offended the song was offered to her. The lyrics are beautiful and real...just like Patti. I don't why see didnt take it.
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Reply #129 posted 12/17/04 4:30pm

RipHer2Shreds

one2three said:

Ace said:


Do you mean she was offended that this song was offered to her? Or offended by some of the lyrics? confuse



I think offended the song was offered to her. The lyrics are beautiful and real...just like Patti. I don't why see didnt take it.

Woopsies. She missed out on the biggest #2 hit of all time! lol
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Reply #130 posted 12/17/04 6:55pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

one2three said:




I think offended the song was offered to her. The lyrics are beautiful and real...just like Patti. I don't why see didnt take it.

Woopsies. She missed out on the biggest #2 hit of all time! lol


Is it really? I knew it was a big hit but wow!
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Reply #131 posted 12/17/04 8:02pm

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manki said:

Meloh9 said:

Did anyone say superstition origanly done by Jeff Beck written and later performed by Stevie, it's the first thing that comes 2 mind

Oh yes,that's right!
Stevie Wonder gave Superstition2 Jeff Beck but when Stevie
heard the result he was'nt pleased so he decided 2 take it back
2 do it himself & it was a monsterhit.Jeff Beck was upset with
Stevie that he had taken it back.
/peace Manki


My understanding is something like this. Stevie wrote the song with Jeff Beck in mind and recorded a clavinet track for him that Jeff didn't end up using. Stevie decided to include his own version on Talking Book, but didn't want to release it as a single because he had promised Jeff that he would have the first opportunity to make a hit out of hit. Motown said "are you nuts" and forced him to release his version as a single. Jeff was mad, but they made up and Stevie later gave him Thelonious (a song he actually did WELL).
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Reply #132 posted 12/17/04 8:04pm

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manki said:[quote]

Axchi696 said:

Didn't Bowie write 'Golden Years' for Elvis (or was it Frank Sinatra?)?

No,the link 2 Frank Sinatra was much earlier in Bowie's career
when he tried 2 make it as a songwriter in the late 60's.
He was 2 write an english lyric 4 Frank Sinatra.Originaly an italian song.
Bowie's version was called "Even a fool learns to love".
Bowie later heard Frank's version but with another lyric
& it was called "My way".
The english lyric was written by Paul Anka.
The song imediatly hit the charts.
Bowie felt betrayed,feeling that they had stolen his song biggrin
He was pissed,he said "I'll show you...." & with a determination
2 write a no1 hit he wrote "Life on Mars".
/peace Manki
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WWWWOW eek . You're saying that David Bowie wrote my way? That's fucking crazy. Why did he originally write it in Italian? Or was My way originally an italian song that Bowie was asked to write an english lyric for? Your story is somewhat confusing to me
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Reply #133 posted 12/17/04 8:09pm

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jacktheimprovident said:[quote]

manki said:

Axchi696 said:

Didn't Bowie write 'Golden Years' for Elvis (or was it Frank Sinatra?)?

No,the link 2 Frank Sinatra was much earlier in Bowie's career
when he tried 2 make it as a songwriter in the late 60's.
He was 2 write an english lyric 4 Frank Sinatra.Originaly an italian song.
Bowie's version was called "Even a fool learns to love".
Bowie later heard Frank's version but with another lyric
& it was called "My way".
The english lyric was written by Paul Anka.
The song imediatly hit the charts.
Bowie felt betrayed,feeling that they had stolen his song biggrin
He was pissed,he said "I'll show you...." & with a determination
2 write a no1 hit he wrote "Life on Mars".
/peace Manki
[Edited 12/15/04 13:41pm]


WWWWOW eek . You're saying that David Bowie wrote my way? That's fucking crazy. Why did he originally write it in Italian? Or was My way originally an italian song that Bowie was asked to write an english lyric for? You're story is somewhat confusing to me


Ok, how about I answer my own question lol. I just looked it up and actually the song was originally a french song called "Come D'habitude" (as usual). Bowie wrote an english lyric for this, anka heard it and wrote his own lyric and Bowie felt he'd missed out or been stolen the opportunity to cash in on a fortune.
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Reply #134 posted 12/17/04 10:24pm

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CinisterCee said:

"Slave 4 U" is Britney's "blackest song", ha? What's her "whitest"?

"Hit Me Baby..."
"Lucky"
"Im Not A Girl..."

ill
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Reply #135 posted 12/18/04 9:21am

manki

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jacktheimprovident said:

jacktheimprovident said:


No,the link 2 Frank Sinatra was much earlier in Bowie's career
when he tried 2 make it as a songwriter in the late 60's.
He was 2 write an english lyric 4 Frank Sinatra.Originaly an italian song.
Bowie's version was called "Even a fool learns to love".
Bowie later heard Frank's version but with another lyric
& it was called "My way".
The english lyric was written by Paul Anka.
The song imediatly hit the charts.
Bowie felt betrayed,feeling that they had stolen his song biggrin
He was pissed,he said "I'll show you...." & with a determination
2 write a no1 hit he wrote "Life on Mars".
/peace Manki
[Edited 12/15/04 13:41pm]
Exactly, biggrin
There's even a bootleg circulating with Bowie singing his
"english" version "Even a fool learns to love" ,over the
french version.
/peace Manki


WWWWOW eek . You're saying that David Bowie wrote my way? That's fucking crazy. Why did he originally write it in Italian? Or was My way originally an italian song that Bowie was asked to write an english lyric for? You're story is somewhat confusing to me


Ok, how about I answer my own question lol. I just looked it up and actually the song was originally a french song called "Come D'habitude" (as usual). Bowie wrote an english lyric for this, anka heard it and wrote his own lyric and Bowie felt he'd missed out or been stolen the opportunity to cash in on a fortune.
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Reply #136 posted 12/20/04 4:08am

DavidEye

VinnyM27 said:

RipHer2Shreds said:


Yeah, but it doesn't necessarily mean they woulda been hits with her. Donna Summer is one of my long-time, absolute favorites, but her big problem is that she doesn't venture far beyond her own "sound." What's Love Got to Do With It doesn't sound like her kinda song, so it's not too unbelievable that she passed on it. I think it likely wouldn't have been a hit with her, because at that time she was still fighting being labeled "the queen of disco" when it was unfashionable to be called that. It woulda seemed like an attempt to change up her style. Plus, wasn't it around the same time as that crazy backlash?



I love Donna and think that she does venture beyond her sound (she's done rock, ballads, pop, country, etc.) but something like "What's Love Got To Do With It" wouldn't have worked for her. If anything, Michael Ormartian (or whatever his name is) would have kind of ruined it. His production was good on a lot of songs ("She Works Hard...", "I'm Free", "Unconditional Love" in patircular) but somewhat limited and sounds very dated on a lot of tracks.




To be honest,I bet that if Donna had recorded "What's Love Got To Do With It",it most likely would never have even been released as a single.It would have just remained a very good album track.One of the problems with Donna's "Geffen years" is that they ususally chose some questionable singles.Strong,catchy songs like "Protection","Oh Billy Please","I'm Free" and "Fascination" were never released as singles.Instead they continually chose weaker tracks like "Supernatural Love" and "Only The Fool Survive".So it's likely that a good song like "What's Love..." wouldn't have gotten the attention it deserves either.
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Reply #137 posted 12/20/04 6:55am

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Patti LaBelle also took a pass on "Holiday" before Madonna recorded it.

Diane Warren wrote "I'll Be Your Shelter" 4 Tina Turner. After she declined, the song was given 2 Taylor Dayne.
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Reply #138 posted 01/19/05 6:25am

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Heart's "THese Dreams" was supposed to go to Stevie Nicks - she passed

SImple Minds "Don't You forget about me" was originally offered to Billy Idol - he passed and ended up doing a remake in 2000.
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Reply #139 posted 01/19/05 6:37am

DavidEye

not sure if this one has been mentioned,but...

Dan Hartman wrote "I Can Dream About You" for Hall and Oates.They rejected it and he recorded his own hit version in 1984.But on their new CD of R&B covers,Hall and Oates finally recorded it,albeit with slightly altered lyrics.
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