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Reply #90 posted 12/13/04 4:32am

DavidEye

Cloudbuster said:

DavidEye said:

eek


Well, I don't. lol



What about if MJ was molesting that boy? Is that okay?
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Reply #91 posted 12/13/04 4:33am

thesexofit

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U can buy porn mags from a newsagent, Kids do it, I've seen a shopkeeper sell 'em to young teens. Is that a crime?


Infact, shouldn't porno mags be behind the counter? This same rather dodgy store stacks porn mags and vids on a low shelf next to young girl mags.....
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Reply #92 posted 12/13/04 4:34am

Cloudbuster

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DavidEye said:

What about if MJ was molesting that boy? Is that okay?


You know that's an entirely different matter. wink
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Reply #93 posted 12/13/04 4:35am

DavidEye

Cloudbuster said:

DavidEye said:

What about if MJ was molesting that boy? Is that okay?


You know that's an entirely different matter. wink



Whew! I was beginning to think that you would defend MJ no matter what he did...lol...
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Reply #94 posted 12/13/04 4:36am

Cloudbuster

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DavidEye said:

Whew! I was beginning to think that you would defend MJ no matter what he did...lol...


Yeah, right! lol
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Reply #95 posted 12/13/04 5:39am

WildStyle

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Who cares if MJ has porn in his bedroom? Doesn't that just make him more normal then you guys would like to think? Oh but when MJ has porn it must be to seduce a kid right? He can't win.
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Reply #96 posted 12/13/04 5:40am

Cloudbuster

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WildStyle said:

Who cares if MJ has porn in his bedroom? Doesn't that just make him more normal then you guys would like to think? Oh but when MJ has porn it must be to seduce a kid right? He can't win.


thumbs up!
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Reply #97 posted 12/13/04 5:44am

DavidEye

WildStyle said:

Who cares if MJ has porn in his bedroom? Doesn't that just make him more normal then you guys would like to think? Oh but when MJ has porn it must be to seduce a kid right? He can't win.



So,it's "normal" for a single,46-year old man (who was already previously accused of child molestation) to have porn lying around when there are young children constantly at his house? confuse
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Reply #98 posted 12/13/04 5:44am

BlueNote

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Anyboy saw the guy from NE on Geraldo? Pretty convincing... lol

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Reply #99 posted 12/13/04 7:29am

OdysseyMiles

Luv4oneanotha said:

vainandy said:

Many a gay man has seduced a grown man that they suspected of fooling around with straight porn. You can't just spring gay porn on them, they would run like a scared rabbit. Who's to say that Michael isn't using the same tactic with boys instead of men.

Porn is never used on man to boy abuse
except child porn
from my research anyways


You're right! I saw this in the 'Man To Boy Abuse For Dummies' manual:

Rule #4080: Use only child porn on your prey. Seeing adult genitalia may scare them. Touching them inappropriately may scare them too, but hey, this book is all about you and your fun, cowboy.
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Reply #100 posted 12/13/04 7:30am

LightOfArt

DavidEye said:

WildStyle said:

Who cares if MJ has porn in his bedroom? Doesn't that just make him more normal then you guys would like to think? Oh but when MJ has porn it must be to seduce a kid right? He can't win.



So,it's "normal" for a single,46-year old man (who was already previously accused of child molestation) to have porn lying around when there are young children constantly at his house? confuse


oh come on you siriously think he left the mags on the table or something and kids seen them accidentally ?
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Reply #101 posted 12/13/04 8:25am

GrayKing

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Cloudbuster said:

DavidEye said:

You forgot to mention that he's 46 and has young boys sleeping in his bed wink


I don't think that makes one a bad person, either. smile



It may not make him a bad person, but it certainly makes him look bad in light of the charges, don't you think?
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Reply #102 posted 12/13/04 8:26am

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LightOfArt said:

DavidEye said:




So,it's "normal" for a single,46-year old man (who was already previously accused of child molestation) to have porn lying around when there are young children constantly at his house? confuse


oh come on you siriously think he left the mags on the table or something and kids seen them accidentally ?



i think that's sort of the point, isn't it?
"Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one."
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Reply #103 posted 12/13/04 9:05am

CinisterCee

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Yeah I'm not so sure about the "negligence" idea hmmm Not like anyone keeps porn on the coffee table.

Except for maybe DavidEye and Madonna's Sex book.



LightOfArt said:

DavidEye said:




So,it's "normal" for a single,46-year old man (who was already previously accused of child molestation) to have porn lying around when there are young children constantly at his house? confuse


oh come on you siriously think he left the mags on the table or something and kids seen them accidentally ?
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Reply #104 posted 12/13/04 11:24am

theVelvetRoper

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OdysseyMiles said:

Luv4oneanotha said:


Porn is never used on man to boy abuse
except child porn
from my research anyways


You're right! I saw this in the 'Man To Boy Abuse For Dummies' manual:

Rule #4080: Use only child porn on your prey. Seeing adult genitalia may scare them. Touching them inappropriately may scare them too, but hey, this book is all about you and your fun, cowboy.
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falloff
'Cause your friends don't dance, and if they don't dance... well, they're no friends of mine.
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Reply #105 posted 12/13/04 11:28am

CinisterCee

Industry Rule #4080: Record company people are shadyyyyy

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Reply #106 posted 12/13/04 11:51am

namepeace

WildStyle said:

Who cares if MJ has porn in his bedroom? Doesn't that just make him more normal then you guys would like to think? Oh but when MJ has porn it must be to seduce a kid right? He can't win.


He can't win. He can't get even. And he can't get out of the game. And it's his own damn fault.

Maybe this can all be explained away. Maybe. But MJ set himself up for all this. As a matter of fact, he intentionally capitalized on his own image as a neo-Peter Pan as cover to be in situations with kids most adults would cringe at. If any other celebrity did what Michael Jackson did they would have been in jail years ago. Even if they were innocent. Because perception becomes reality when you put yourself in questionable situations.

Didn't last year's documentary creep you out even a little?

I mean, 12 years ago MJ being accused of this would have been a stretch. But after what has come out, and after what MJ has volunteered, over the last few years these allegations are not so unbelievable. He may be misunderstood but he doesn't belong on a pedastal either.

It's amazing he thought he could do the things he did with that boy in that documentary and honestly believe they wouldn't come after him.
[Edited 12/13/04 11:52am]
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Reply #107 posted 12/13/04 12:06pm

OdysseyMiles

namepeace said:

WildStyle said:

Who cares if MJ has porn in his bedroom? Doesn't that just make him more normal then you guys would like to think? Oh but when MJ has porn it must be to seduce a kid right? He can't win.


He can't win. He can't get even. And he can't get out of the game. And it's his own damn fault.

Maybe this can all be explained away. Maybe. But MJ set himself up for all this. As a matter of fact, he intentionally capitalized on his own image as a neo-Peter Pan as cover to be in situations with kids most adults would cringe at. If any other celebrity did what Michael Jackson did they would have been in jail years ago. Even if they were innocent. Because perception becomes reality when you put yourself in questionable situations.

Didn't last year's documentary creep you out even a little?

I mean, 12 years ago MJ being accused of this would have been a stretch. But after what has come out, and after what MJ has volunteered, over the last few years these allegations are not so unbelievable. He may be misunderstood but he doesn't belong on a pedastal either.

It's amazing he thought he could do the things he did with that boy in that documentary and honestly believe they wouldn't come after him.
[Edited 12/13/04 11:52am]


Exactly, bro. I was just thinking about this yesterday. What if we were talking about Master P? lol Dude would be under the jail by now.
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Reply #108 posted 12/13/04 12:19pm

Luv4oneanotha

OdysseyMiles said:

Luv4oneanotha said:


Porn is never used on man to boy abuse
except child porn
from my research anyways


You're right! I saw this in the 'Man To Boy Abuse For Dummies' manual:

Rule #4080: Use only child porn on your prey. Seeing adult genitalia may scare them. Touching them inappropriately may scare them too, but hey, this book is all about you and your fun, cowboy.
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ooo trying to have a battle of wits with me, next time come Armed
wink
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Reply #109 posted 12/13/04 12:27pm

OdysseyMiles

Luv4oneanotha said:

OdysseyMiles said:



You're right! I saw this in the 'Man To Boy Abuse For Dummies' manual:

Rule #4080: Use only child porn on your prey. Seeing adult genitalia may scare them. Touching them inappropriately may scare them too, but hey, this book is all about you and your fun, cowboy.
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ooo trying to have a battle of wits with me, next time come Armed
wink
[Edited 12/13/04 12:21pm]


Next time come up with a better excuse for your boy. lol
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Reply #110 posted 12/13/04 12:33pm

UptownDeb

How does MJ acquire porn? Does he go to his local magazine stand in disguise? Does he order it through the mail? I mean, "Neverland Ranch" would raise a serious red flag in the subscriptions order processing department, don't you think?
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Reply #111 posted 12/13/04 12:37pm

OdysseyMiles

UptownDeb said:

How does MJ acquire porn? Does he go to his local magazine stand in disguise? Does he order it through the mail? I mean, "Neverland Ranch" would raise a serious red flag in the subscriptions order processing department, don't you think?


I bet he ordered it in the housekeeper's name. lol
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Reply #112 posted 12/13/04 12:57pm

dreamfactory31
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eek I am shocked!
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Reply #113 posted 12/13/04 3:01pm

bananacologne

UptownDeb said:

How does MJ acquire porn? Does he go to his local magazine stand in disguise? Does he order it through the mail? I mean, "Neverland Ranch" would raise a serious red flag in the subscriptions order processing department, don't you think?


falloff

Jacko phoning in his order, hoping 2 remain anonymous:
'...yeah, some double chocolate chip cookies - no, no, the ones with the cute little bunny faces on made of candy, they make me giggle heeheee! And, I'll have a quart of Ben & Jerry's Cherry and Nut Ice Cream - can u remove the nuts tho? It brings me out in a rash. heeeeheeee. Two dozen dime bars, a couple of packets of fritos, a few Snickers, some Juicy Fruit, and (lowers voice) throw in Hustler, Big-Assed Man Bitches, RAM and Mad magazine.

How am I paying? Would u accept an IOU?

Ok, uh..... the guard at the gate will pay for it.

Oh, the address?

Neverland,
Neverland Valley,
Encino....


lol
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Reply #114 posted 12/13/04 3:43pm

sosgemini

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bananacologne said:

UptownDeb said:

How does MJ acquire porn? Does he go to his local magazine stand in disguise? Does he order it through the mail? I mean, "Neverland Ranch" would raise a serious red flag in the subscriptions order processing department, don't you think?


falloff

Jacko phoning in his order, hoping 2 remain anonymous:
'...yeah, some double chocolate chip cookies - no, no, the ones with the cute little bunny faces on made of candy, they make me giggle heeheee! And, I'll have a quart of Ben & Jerry's Cherry and Nut Ice Cream - can u remove the nuts tho? It brings me out in a rash. heeeeheeee. Two dozen dime bars, a couple of packets of fritos, a few Snickers, some Juicy Fruit, and (lowers voice) throw in Hustler, Big-Assed Man Bitches, RAM and Mad magazine.

How am I paying? Would u accept an IOU?

Ok, uh..... the guard at the gate will pay for it.

Oh, the address?

Neverland,
Neverland Valley,
Encino....


lol




Space for sale...
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Reply #115 posted 12/13/04 4:40pm

WildStyle

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C'mon, how many of you guys out there haven't gone snooping for an adults porn stash when you were younger? It's a fucking natural thing.
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Reply #116 posted 12/13/04 6:33pm

SefraNSue

WildStyle said:

C'mon, how many of you guys out there haven't gone snooping for an adults porn stash when you were younger? It's a fucking natural thing.

Give it up, wildstyle. The police could have found a tape of MJ in a threesome with Playboy models, and some "objective" orger here would pull some "researched" nonsense out their ass about how pedophiles are known for sleeping with women in order to intice young boys (even when no boys are present.) lol

LOL @ Bananacologne
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Reply #117 posted 12/14/04 1:14am

DavidEye

UptownDeb said:

How does MJ acquire porn? Does he go to his local magazine stand in disguise? Does he order it through the mail? I mean, "Neverland Ranch" would raise a serious red flag in the subscriptions order processing department, don't you think?



One of his closest friends is a gay porno director.Maybe that's where he got the porn from? lol
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Reply #118 posted 12/14/04 1:58am

Cloudbuster

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GrayKing said:

Cloudbuster said:

I don't think that makes one a bad person, either. smile



It may not make him a bad person, but it certainly makes him look bad in light of the charges, don't you think?


Bad, stupid, careless, naive, mad, whatever. shrug
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Reply #119 posted 12/14/04 12:28pm

namepeace

WildStyle said:

C'mon, how many of you guys out there haven't gone snooping for an adults porn stash when you were younger? It's a fucking natural thing.


But conversely, the allegations against him are that he induced these kids to perform illicit acts with him using alcohol, etc. These new allegations fit into that theory.

Just as I cannot assume the worst, you can't automatically assume the best. Once the trial starts and the evidence is submitted in context, then we can make that call.

But one thing is undisputed. MJ created the appearance of impropriety with these kids. He could have avoided all of this by discontinuing his overnight visits with kids in his bedroom, especially after he nearly caught a case 10 years earlier. He didn't. So, to paraphrase Janet, he can't blame nobody but him.

And again I pose the question. Didn't that documentary creep you out at least a little?
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