MotoPsycho said:

i doubt he did it but i think there are some sick people out there that may have taken what he said seriously. it's very sad.

Well I bet we are NEVER going to see Major Acts like Prince and other's playing aftershows in little clubs & probably not The House Of Blues (size places).

They are going to have Metal Detectors & Wands to check everyone in these clubs.

dancerella said:

Definately - Mark Chapman anyone?

From what I've heard, Phil's 'devastated' - although last week he was bad mouthing the brothers yet again in the metal press. Regardless of their messy relationships post-Pantera, I don't believe for one fuckin second he had a thing 2 do with it.

No way.

This is terrible...absolutely terrible....nobody should be gunned down like this...


Pantera meant a lot to me back in the day. "Cowboys From Hell" was my personal inner-anthem back in junior high...."Vulgar..." kicked my ass from the first spin..."Far beyond..." was almost too damn good and hardcore for me...oh lord, this is just fucking awful...

I heard about this last night. I didn't know who they were but it's still terrible terrible news.

KingSausage said:

For me, "Walk" was warm-up music for just about every concert. I haven't had a celebrity death bum me out like this in ten and a half years.

Wow. I don't know Pantera's music, but what a horrible tragedy. It's especially unsettling for me, since the Alrosa Villa has always been the "metal club" in town (I live in Columbus) -- I remember the over-the-top commercials they used to have when I was a kid.

About 5 years ago I worked at a local newspaper/publishing company just 3 or 4 doors down the road from the Alrosa. My sister lives MAYBE as far as a half-mile from the Alrosa, and I pass it all the time on the way to her house.

Very, very sad.

Oh, and this may have already been mentioned, but if not, after the "The One" tour (basically still JOTY, in late 1997) Prince had an official afterparty here - he just showed up for a couple seconds, apparently...I didn't go, but that's what I heard.

*Correction, it was the Celebration tour, which explains why I wasn't there, b/c I lived in Florida for a couple years during that time.
[Edited 12/9/04 15:10pm]

UPDATE:
Police in Columbus have released the name of the gunman who went on a shooting rampage last night, Wednesday December 8, at a Damageplan gig killing at least four people - including guitarist Dimebag Darrel - before a police officer shot him dead.

Nathan Gale, 25, of Marysville, reportedly jumped the stage and opened fire.

The shooting took place shortly after 10 p.m. at Alrosa Villa, while the band were playing the first song of their set. A man, who was reportedly wearing a hockey jersey and hooded sweatshirt, began firing at point-blank range at least four times at guitarist Dimebag Darrell.

The former Pantera member - real name Darrell Abbott - was pronounced dead at the scene. Police have also released the names of two others who died. They were Nathan Bray and Erin Halk, both audience members.

Reports are suggesting that none of the other DAMAGEPLAN band members were hurt in the incident. This, however, has not been confirmed by police officers or the band's record label as yet.

Web site www.blabbermouth.net is also reporting that several people who have spoken with Dimebag's former PANTERA bandmate Phil Anselmo are claiming that the singer is said to be "devastated" by the news of Dimebag's murder. Anselmo and Dimebag had exchanged bitter words in the aftermath of Pantera's split.

Amateur video was apparently taken from inside the Alrosa Villa club and investigators are currently examining the tape to see if they could determine the events that led to the shootings.
(Kerrang.com)

Tributes From Metal Musicians Pour In For DIMEBAG DARRELL - Dec. 9, 2004

A number of heavy metal musicians have paid tribute to Dimebag Darrell (DAMAGEPLAN, ex-PANTERA) who was tragically murdered last night.

SLIPKNOT's Corey Taylor: "He could take a riff that would take somebody a year to master and he could rip it off in seconds. He made everything look like he was playing 'Smoke on the Water' with one finger.

"He was one of the coolest people I've ever met. The guy just loved to laugh and he loved to make you laugh. And he loved to make you do something that you would never do in a million years. He was a guy that lived in the moment. His philosophy was, 'Let's do something that is gonna make us remember tonight for the rest of our lives.' And that's something I'm gonna fucking miss for the rest of mine."

ANTHRAX's Scott Ian: "After Eddie Van Halen, you had Dimebag Darrell. He was the next guy that came along and did something as original and important on guitar.

"He's the type of guy that would do anything for his friends. He really did put his family and his friends first, and for him everyone was his family. Once you came into contact with Dimebag and became friends with that guy, it was a sacred bond. Once you shared drinks with that guy, you became a part of his extended family."

MEGADETH mainman Dave Mustaine: "There is nothing unique or clever to this post, and what I want to say has no doubt already been said throughout the metal community, by countless others whom were more closer to Darrell than me by now.

"However, knowing he was murdered tonight, I wish to thank and remember Darrell for his amazing life and the gift that he shared with me and so many other fortunates.

"I pray for Darrell's family and friends; specifically for their healing, their peace, and their understanding of this tragedy in this time of need.

"I send my deepest heartfelt condolences to the Abbott family, to Darrell's friends, and to the fantastic PANTERA and DAMAGEPLAN fans around the world.

"We must never forget his life, and his gifts, his genius, his terrific personallity, and the legacy he left behind to remember him by.

"Darrell, I will see you in heaven and I, like so many more, love you brother.

"You will be missed."

Tim "Ripper" Owens (ex-JUDAS PRIEST, ICED EARTH): "Hey, wanted to say that Dime was a great guy and amazing guitarist! He will really be missed! He made me laugh when he would see me backstage and sing out 'Ripper' in a high note with some melody he had made up! He and his brother always gave me respect. I knew how much of a fan he was of JUDAS PRIEST and Rob [Halford], so the respect meant a lot! And all the rumors about him and I working together where the best rumors I'd ever heard about me! I always wanted to work with Darrell and was always waiting for that phone call! Dimebag, we love ya bro and you will be missed!"

CHIMAIRA's Mark Hunter: "Dime's music gave me so much to live for when I was younger, and he truly changed the face of metal with his unique style of guitar playing. There isn't a metal band I know that hasn't borrowed a riff or three from him."

Rob "Blasko" Nicholson (ex-ROB ZOMBIE/OZZY OSBOURNE): "I'm speechless. This is totally unreal. Dimebag is a fucking legend and this is total bullshit."

KILLSWITCH ENGAGE's Howard Jones: "This is insane and this is beyond travesty. This is beyond anything I've ever heard. This shouldn't happen in or outside of the rock and metal community. He will be missed and mourned as a person, as a musician, and as a friend."

MÖTLEY CRÜE bassist Nikki Sixx offered the following: "Dime, I will never forget all the times you made us laugh. I'm so happy we got to spend the day together in London recently… We should all live our lives as full as you have. I will miss you, as will all of us... This is a sad day."

Rich Ward (FOZZY, STUCK MOJO): "Darrell was as nice as they come. During the times that I spent with him, I wondered why he played in such a heavy band. Not that he didn't have the ability to school all of us that dared to share a stage with him, but because he seemed like such a gentle and kind man. He had a great sense of humor and was someone that everyone in the room gravitated toward. He never carried himself like the big rock star that he really was, instead he came across humble and appreciative. I consider it a privilege to have known him, as he was one of the 'real' guys in the business and as Zakk [Wylde] would say, 'one of the boys'!"

Shaun Glass (SOIL): "Today I am saddened to say I lost my friend and hero it sickens me that someone would take away a person that brought so much joy to so many people. Love ya, Double D."

SEPULTURA: "Dimebag was an excellent musician and a good friend, a fucking great partner in memorable tours. We'll miss him very much. Our condolences to the Abbott family."

MACHINE HEAD: "MACHINE HEAD are devastated by the horrific news. Our deepest sympathy and condolences to the Abbott family, DAMAGEPLAN and former members of PANTERA. Our thoughts are with you all."

Jon Dette (ex-SLAYER, TESTAMENT): "My brother just called to tell me that Dimebag Darrell was shot and killed on stage tonight. Words cannot express the sadness I'm feeling right now and my condolences go out to Vinnie Paul and the Abbott family for their loss. This is a huge tragedy for the music world."

Orange County, California-based sextet BLEED THE SKY (recently signed to Nuclear Blast Records): "It's a sad day in heavy metal, Dimebag Darrell formerly of PANTERA, was shot and killed while performing with DAMAGEPLAN in Ohio. We would more than likely not be a band if it wasn't for him, and can't possibly imagine the pain that his brother and his family must be in. RIP, brother, heavy music will never be the same without you."

TRIVIUM's Matt Heafy: "There's nothing that hasn't already been said or felt about this recent tragedy regarding Dimebag Darrell. All I can say is that Dimebag was one of the most influential musicians in our time. Legends aren't something we can pick and choose and they aren't here in vast numbers — Dime was a man who helped inspire countless numbers of players, fans, and people in general, a legend who really made the world seem that much better. Everyone I know who has met Dime says he was really nothing short of one of the nicest people they'd ever met, that he was a humble fun-loving metal head. But now Dimebag Darrell: a son, a brother, an idol, a musician, a fellow man... has been taken from us. It's a terrifying feeling that now at concerts, our very release from the everyday world we each seek out to escape from, our heroes are being murdered. My heart goes out to the Abbott family: Dimebag Darrell Abbott was a man of legendary and heroic status, but before all that Darrell was and always will be a brother and a son; we all mourn today."

QUIET RIOT's Frankie Banali: "This is so wrong. Darrel was one of the nicest people in music and a great guitarist. He was always great to me each time we saw each other, as was Vinnie. Such a waste and so disturbing. My thoughts and prayers are with Darrel and my sincerest sympathy to Darrel's family, loved ones and all of his fans and the fans of PANTERA and DAMAGEPLAN. No one deserves a violent death, and certainly not Darrel. God bless him."

(www.blabbermouth.net)

MotoPsycho said:

PHILIP ANSELMO: 'DIMEBAG DARRELL Deserves To Be Beaten Severely' - Dec. 1, 2004
In a lengthy interview published in the "Xmas 2004" issue of Metal Hammer magazine, ex-PANTERA/curent SUPERJOINT RITUAL frontman Philip Anselmo spoke extensively about the breakup of his previous band and the status of all of his musical projects, among many other topics. Several excerpts from the interview follow:

On Dimebag Darrell and Vinnie Paul's claim that Philip left PANTERA without telling them he was leaving:

"Well, they have phones as well. And they weren't communicating with me. Their way of communication was through, so they would send their errand girl to call me up and see where my head was at. Now that was pretty offensive, so I didn't play that game, and time passed. And I don't let time pass, I have to do something, I can't sit on my ass and just do nothing, I have to do something, and it must be musical. When I don't use my gift I become defunct and I become clumsy and I become useless. It's a terrible feeling to be that vulnerable.

"When you use your gift, you're on top of the world. You feel worth something, you know? You feel that you've done something, and you have, you've created. I've done that with many, many, many bands on my own time, and I was always there whenever PANTERA called to do the next record, the next tour, whatever it took, and I was always 100% there."

On what went wrong with PANTERA:

"Through devotion to and scheduling with PANTERA, a lot of things got pushed to the side — and the incarnation of other great bands like DOWN which I was part of took a lot of time and whatnot. Everything has its turn, and when it was SUPERJOINT RITUAL's turn, I felt at the time that PANTERA had done its greatest tour we'd ever done, which was with SLAYER and MORBID ANGEL in the United States. We were in Ireland when the 9/11 terrorist attacks took place in New York. We were stuck there for seven or eight days and the tour was called off because of the turbulence. After that it seemed there was a great… distancing.

"I think, more or less, it lies between Dimebag and I. There was never a point when he could not get drunk. Which was pretty much every day. And now I'm hearing it's worse than ever.

"He would attack me, vocally. And just knowing that he was so much smaller than me I could kill him like a fuckin' piece of vapor, you know, he would turn into vapour — his chin would, at least, if I fuckin' smacked it. And he knows that. The world should know that. So physically, of course, he deserves to be beaten severely.

"But of course, that's criminal and I won't do such a thing… Really, I just let him prattle on. I grew very tired of it very quickly, and whenever it came up, like it has come up today, I just chose to wish them the best of luck. And in all honesty I really wish that they would be men, which is very hard for them, figuring that they were living in their mother's house until they're 30 years old. In comparison, I was on the street by choice at the age of 15, living anywhere I could — but living, and successfully living, through my will."

On what it was that caused his friendship with Dimebag Darrell to turn sour:

"I think that there's a lot inside of Darrell… from what I've seen of Dimebag in the past, he had some great tragedy in his family, and of course that's Vinnie's family as well. I don't think that they were ever given or ever allowed time to really heal from that. The anger and the hatred and the drunken nights of just screaming in my face, with me sitting there taking it and holding both of my hands just to not hit the guy… I grew weary of that. I was sick of being his whipping post, y'know, and I just politely, or unpolitely, excused myself.

"I think I proved clearly to everybody what I was in PANTERA! And what I was was a unique, unbelievably magnetic frontman that had not been around since the days of Robert Plant and Ozzy Osbourne. I am one in a million. . . I have staying power! I have a devoted following that would do anything for me! Anything that I say. And there's not many people that can say that, that are in my position.
"As far as their product that they put out [referring to DAMAGEPLAN — Ed.], our product that they put out, it was obvious that I was very much involved with arranging the songs, I was very much involved with the integrity of the songs. . . The integrity and the moulding of the songs, the creating, the putting together of the song. Y'know, it was my job to do the sequencing for the record, it was my job to lyrically stun the audience. And I think they failed on every account. And the world speaks for it."

"When you see a group of guys that are not hungry any more… Honestly, between me and the world now, in my heart of hearts I believe it hurt them more not to receive the money that they were going to get — that we were all going to get — for putting out that record, than me leaving the band. They always feared me. They always were different than me. They always had their circle of friends and I had my circle of friends. Their jealousy level was incredible! Y'know, anyone that was close to me outside the band would be treated like fucking serfs or servants by the Abbott brothers. And y'know, that never… that never… never worked very well for me."

On Dimebag's implication in interviews that Anselmo has returned to heroin:

"What a stupid man. What a shallow, stupid man. How would he know what I do? And by the way, I've been fucking bone-sober for three and a half years now. Anybody who has seen me on stage, anybody who has seen the shape of my body and the size of my arms, and the fucking burning desire in my eyes, knows that I am fuckin'… I drink four beers and I have a buzz now. Gimme a break. I couldn't even say that in my twenties."

On the possibility of a PANTERA reunion:

"It would take a lot of soul-searching. It would take a lot of negotiation. And we'll see. In the end, it's what's most important to the fans.

"That's the last time I'm ever — you can put this in your article — this is the last time I am ever talking about PANTERA."

This is just a senseless death because of some nut

I don't even own a Pantera cd but he was an entertainer making people happy, and being gunned down during a performance is bullshit!!!!!

Apparently the gunman turned the gun on the crowd, this is so fucked up!!!!

realm said:

What a fucking crock of shit. Put down the needle & the spoon Phil, for God's sake.

You've only gotta look back on some of the home videos to see how much PHIL changed...and that was all down to the heroin.

Not only does he contradict himself in that interview, but he also can't accept the responsibility for his own actions.

Sad.
http://search.launch.yaho...?p=Pantera

Phil

Anselmo said:

Newsflash Phil...oh no it ain't.

bananacologne said:

Leave it to Phil to talk out of his ass, Nana.

If it was maybe one slip up-but how long has he gone on like that? Like a child, looking for attention.

I hope he shuts up finally and backpedals and realizes that he lost time with those guys cause of the idiotic bickering.

This is about showing respect to Dime's memory and not another chance for Phil to speak up and act more like an assclown.

I hope that he now realizes that he wasted time and it's about sharing memories about good times-not new ways to point fingers or place blame.

I used to not have that big of a problem with the guy, but he's too quick to spout off at the mouth about others than to learn to keep it shut if you don't have anything worthwhile to say about somebody.

Only makes him look more like an idiot.

If he wants to claim to be so above it all, then keep it shut.

Thanks for the updates by the way, Nana-glad to see news outlets are showing more respect than I they would.

I am still sick to my stomach thinking about this. I don't understand why a "fan" would do this, and if what he (the gunman) was yelling about Dime breaking up Pantera, was what he really believed then killing him wouldn't solve anything.

Damn, now there will never be a chance for a Pantera reunion.

As for Phil, he may have been upset and making comments about the Abbott brothers, but I think he deep down still loved the guys.
I don't know if Phil has made a statement or not, but it will be interesting to hear what he has to say.

Damn december 8th...John Lennon and now Dimebag.

Absoultely tragic. Doesn't matter how anyone explains it, how anyone would try to make sense of it all. Personnaly, I am not a huge Pantera or Damageplan fan, but I have enough sense that tells me that this is a huge disapointment to the 'Metal' community.

Quit yappin' yer jaws off about who 'they' are, whether it's the media or some ignorant racist asshole. Point of the matter is that someone was thoughtlessly slain in the music community. Whether s/he be white, black, asian, hispanic, etc... s/he doesn't deserve it at all, no one does.

I'm still bummed about this and have been blasting The Great Southern Trendkill as much as I can. Here's some new info from cnn.com.

From Yahoo! news:

Police Search for Motive in Club Shooting

58 minutes ago Entertainment - AP Music

By ANITA CHANG, Associated Press Writer

COLUMBUS, Ohio - Even at the tattoo parlor, 25-year-old N***** G*** made people uneasy, staring and locking them into conversations about heavy metal music. But no one pegged the semi-pro football player who psyched himself up before games by piping thrash-rock legends Pantera into his headphones as the type to go on a shooting rampage.

Police say they may never know why G*** charged the stage at a heavy metal show and gunned down four people, including former Pantera guitarist "Dimebag" Darrell Abbott, one of metal rock's most revered guitarists.

Some witnesses said G*** began his rampage by yelling out accusations that Abbott broke up Pantera, one of the most popular heavy metal bands of the 1990s. Sgt. Brent Mull said police had not verified those reports.

"We may never know a motive for this, unless he left a note," Mull said.

Abbott, 38, left Pantera with his brother, drummer Vinnie Paul Abbott, to form the band Damageplan, which had just begun its first song at the club Alrosa Villa on Wednesday night when G*** dodged two band members, grabbed Darrell Abbott and shot him at least five times in the head.

"He grabbed Dimebag with one hand and shot him with the other," said Kevin Minerd, among the 500 people packed into the smoke-filled nightclub to see Abbott's new band.

In less than five minutes, G*** had shot three others, including Erin Halk, 29, a club employee who loaded band equipment; fan Nathan Bray, 23, of nearby Grove City; and Jeff Thompson, 40, a bodyguard for the band.

Two people employed by the band, Chris Paluska and John Brooks, were in Riverside Hospital on Friday morning with Paluska listed in good condition and Brooks in serious condition.

An imposing figure, G*** was on the offensive line for the semi-pro Lima Thunder in northwest Ohio, coach Mark Green said Thursday. G*** listened to Pantera on headphones before games during his one season with the team, Green said.

"You wouldn't look at him and think he was capable of doing something like this," Green said. "It wasn't like he was a loner."

A teammate, James Patterson, 31, said when he last spoke with G*** in October, he was laying sod for a landscaping company in Marysville, where G*** kept an apartment.

"I'm just stunned," Patterson said. "I can't even describe how he could have done something like this."

G*** made workers and customers uneasy at the Bears Den Tattoo Studio in Marysville, 25 miles northwest of Columbus, where he stared at people and forced them into conversations, manager Lucas Bender said.

"He comes in here and likes to hang out when he's not wanted," Bender said. "The most pointless conversations."

A tattoo artist at the studio, Bo Toler, said G*** was at the studio Wednesday between 5 and 6 p.m. G*** asked about having the studio order tattoo equipment for him and Toler said he told him no. G*** then got very angry and started yelling at him, he said.

"Last night was actually the first time I noticed his temper," Toler said on Thursday. "After the argument we had he kind of walked out with an attitude. He didn't even say goodbye."

G*** had red hair cut very close, often wore a winter hat and was always wearing a Columbus Blue Jackets hockey jersey, said Mandi Dellinger, who works at a cell phone store on the same block where G*** lives. Police said G*** was wearing the jersey during the shooting.

Dellinger said she used to say hello to G*** but they never had a conversation. "He seemed like a nice guy. He just seemed shy," Dellinger said.

G*** had several minor run-ins with police since 1997, but wasn't considered a troublemaker, Marysville assistant police chief Glenn Nicol said.

G*** ate two or three times a week at Maggie's Restaurant across an alley from his apartment, waitress Emi Walden said. He would stay to chat after eating and seemed lonely, Walden said.

"There was something odd about him, not like he would be dangerous to you, just something about him that wasn't right," she said.

G*** mentioned he was in the Marines but wouldn't talk specifics, Walden said. Messages left with several military public affairs offices trying to confirm his service were not immediately returned.

No one answered the door Thursday at the Marysville home of G***'s mother, Mary Clark. A message left on her cell phone was not immediately returned.

Despite a drizzle and temperatures in the 40s, more than 200 people turned up for a vigil Thursday night in the club's parking lot.

Shawn Sweeney, 22, played "old-school Pantera" on an acoustic guitar and a half-dozen young men held a blue tarp over his head and sang along.

"This is beautiful, this is absolutely beautiful," Sweeney said, referring to the growing crowd.

At one point, a naked young man stood in the middle of the street, arms raised, repeatedly cursing G***. The crowd cheered boisterously, and the man took off in a full sprint across the parking lot as four police officers gave chase.

He was soon tackled and a man in the crowd yelled out, "We got your bond, dude!" as the streaker was led off in handcuffs.

Associated Press writers John Seewer in Toledo, Andy Resnik in Marysville and Carrie Spencer in Columbus contributed to this report.
___

On the Net:

http://www.damageplan.com

http://www.pantera.com

In case yer wondering, I refuse to type that cocksuckers name.

Oh, and check this out... nice one Nikki


DICK.

Harlepolis said:

Hip-hop IS violent!

For anyone who cares, the shooter's name is Nathan Gale. I don't know why they would have censored that out of the article, whatever. Last night after work that place was a MADHOUSE with all the police and news crews. I drive by every night I go to my sister's after work, so I went that way last night just to see it. On e-bay people were selling copies of yesterday's Columbus Dispatch for these insanely high prices, not sure if they were real bids or not of course.

From FoxNews.Com:

"An imposing figure, Gale was on the offensive line for the semi-pro Lima Thunder in northwest Ohio, coach Mark Green said Thursday. Gale listened to Pantera on headphones before games during his one season with the team, Green said."

Heh, leave it to Fox to have inaccurate information. The semi-pro team was the Columbus Thunder, a miserable failure. And it only HAD one season.

theblueangel said:

Uh...Blue...like I said at the bottom of my post... I censored it. Why does his name deserve to be known? The guy was a fucking moron, and I'll have no part in making him the next Mark Chapman - everybody knows who he is.

PS: Check your damn org notes!

Um, oh. Teehee. Color me red-faced.

Nana: Miami. March 1, 2005. You. Me. Sassy. BE THERE.

Trent Reznor posts on NIN.com:

Kind words from Trent-loved seeing Trent very, very drunk having fun in 3: Watch it Go on the Vulgar Videos DVD.

Went to see Trans Siberian Orchestra last night-had a blast, even more than last year.

At one point during the show, Al Pitrelli (amazing guitarist) got applause for the troops and then there was a few moments of silence in remembrance of Dime, the other victims and everyone's families.

Can't quite describe how amazing it is to hear so many people in that size of a venue (American Airlines Center) be completely quiet-except for one crying baby.

Had the pleasure of meeting everybody in TSO after the show and getting their autographs, shaking a few hands-all really great folks, very nice.

Al's a truly great guy as well.

From MetalHammer.com:
Former Pantera frontman Philip Anselmo has issued a short but particularly poignant statement about the untimely passing of former band mate of Dimebag Darrell.

It reads as follows:

"Darrell my brother. The best of the best.
- Philip H. Anselmo"



I know I should get the fuck over this, but I still can't quite believe it.

No more fun-loving, practical joke, shred riffing, party dude Dime anymore.

Man...it's gonna be a duller world without him lighting it up anymore.

bananacologne said:

i can't believe that's all he had to say. strange....

dancerella said:

Same here.

bananacologne said:

you'd think he'd say a bit more considering they were in the same band for 15 years. now he's keeping his trap shut but it's too late.

dancerella said:

Indeed.

This ring any bells 'Phillip'?

Run your mouth when I’m not around
It’s easy to achieve
You cry to weak friends that sympathize
Can you hear the violins playing your song?
Those same friends tell me your every word

I knew a little bit about Pantera in the 90's and one of my old co-worker's who I've lost contact with loved Pantera. He'd tell me all this stuff about them and their music. When I heard the news last week all I could do was think of him. It's so sad to hear news like that.