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Now Stevie needs to bash... Mary J. Blige & Destinys Child for ruining his songs at the Billboard Awards last night.See,these performers are so used to singing mediocre songs that when they are confronted with great compositions like As and Living For The City,they just can't handle it.
Artists who should've participated in the tribute: Prince Teena Marie Chaka Khan Amel Larrieux Jill Scott I DON'T WANT TO BE NORMAL,because normal is part of the status quo,which I don't want to be a part of- Tori Amos | |
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This was the only part of the show I caught save for Gwen's performance and I cringed through all of Mary's performance. She sounded so off and never quite found the right key. Then she just got really loud toward the end as if that would make up for not being able to do the famous up and down on "Alwaaaaays..." [Edited 12/9/04 12:26pm] Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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I remember Stevie and Babyface doind a Jacko tune called "gone to soon"! Quite good actually!
Jodeci would have no trouble doing "lately" as their version was better! | |
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thesexofit said: Jodeci would have no trouble doing "lately" as their version was better! They sang it with him in Arsenio's show back in 93 or 92. | |
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JackieBlue said: This was the only part of the show I caught save for Gwen's performance and I cringed through all of Mary's performance. She sounded so off and never quite found the right key. Then she just got really loud toward the end as if that would make up for not being able to do the famous up and down on "Alwaaaaays..."
[Edited 12/9/04 12:26pm] Yes, but sounding off key is pretty typical of Mary..... | |
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gypsyfire said: Mary J. Blige & Destinys Child for ruining his songs at the Billboard Awards last night.See,these performers are so used to singing mediocre songs that when they are confronted with great compositions like As and Living For The City,they just can't handle it.
Artists who should've participated in the tribute: Prince Teena Marie Chaka Khan Amel Larrieux Jill Scott Amen. The way Mary J. and Beyonce and Company messsed up Steve's songs is a damn shame. | |
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Yeah off-key is Mary's middle name. Anybody catch her trying to sing the words "I Tried" in that new song? |
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I didn't see the show but I can imagine what happened.
Mary f'd up one of Stevie's song on some "Diva" show a while back. She's must not be learning from past mistakes.
This is what happens when you've been getting away with RIFFING over one-line vamps and are then confronted with having to SING a definite melody over specific chord changes. Those that can't hang, get exposed. tA  Tribal Disorder
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theAudience said: I didn't see the show but I can imagine what happened.
Mary f'd up one of Stevie's song on some "Diva" show a while back. She's must not be learning from past mistakes.
This is what happens when you've been getting away with RIFFING over one-line vamps and are then confronted with having to SING a definite melody over specific chord changes. Those that can't hang, get exposed. tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm I swear she's slowly getting even worse. She can sound OK on LP (with vocal adjustment and studio trickery, of course), but when she's live it's just horrible. | |
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 @ the MJB bashing in here.
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VoicesCarry said: JackieBlue said: This was the only part of the show I caught save for Gwen's performance and I cringed through all of Mary's performance. She sounded so off and never quite found the right key. Then she just got really loud toward the end as if that would make up for not being able to do the famous up and down on "Alwaaaaays..."
[Edited 12/9/04 12:26pm] Yes, but sounding off key is pretty typical of Mary..... That's one of the main reasons why I never got into MJB. She always sounds off at one point or another. Then the whole dramafest she delivers at the end of every song. Is the applause for her singing or for her dramatic portrayals? Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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VoicesCarry said: theAudience said: I didn't see the show but I can imagine what happened.
Mary f'd up one of Stevie's song on some "Diva" show a while back. She's must not be learning from past mistakes.
This is what happens when you've been getting away with RIFFING over one-line vamps and are then confronted with having to SING a definite melody over specific chord changes. Those that can't hang, get exposed. tA  TA, I couldn't agree with you more. Her ass has been skirting by for years and she finally got caught. They should have her fuck up the song Living Just Enough For The City instead of DC. Oh. Well.
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http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm I swear she's slowly getting even worse. She can sound OK on LP (with vocal adjustment and studio trickery, of course), but when she's live it's just horrible. | |
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JackieBlue said: VoicesCarry said: Yes, but sounding off key is pretty typical of Mary..... That's one of the main reasons why I never got into MJB. She always sounds off at one point or another. Then the whole dramafest she delivers at the end of every song. Is the applause for her singing or for her dramatic portrayals? The acapella of "No More Drama" is hilarious. I might post it here later on. | |
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Harlepolis said: @ the MJB bashing in here.
*be cool Harle, be cool girl* My intent was not to bash Mary specifically, but to bring up a crime that quite a few other current "singers" can be convicted of. You know what i'm talkin' about. 
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theAudience said: Harlepolis said: @ the MJB bashing in here.
*be cool Harle, be cool girl* My intent was not to bash Mary specifically, but to bring up a crime that quite a few other current "singers" can be convicted of. You know what i'm talkin' about.
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VoicesCarry said: I swear she's slowly getting even worse. She can sound OK on LP (with vocal adjustment and studio trickery, of course), but when she's live it's just horrible.
I'm starting to agree. I'm thinking that maybe giving up the 8 balls wasn't such a good career move. | |
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VoicesCarry said: I swear she's slowly getting even worse. She can sound OK on LP (with vocal adjustment and studio trickery, of course), but when she's live it's just horrible.
Yeah. What makes this such a shame is that I truly believe she could be better. It's about wanting to be better on her part. Does she even know she's sounding like this? tA Tribal Disorder
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Ok, I dig it betta when she's singing in her low-register. I know that falsetto ain't working for her but hey  | |
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Harlepolis said: Ok, I dig it betta when she's singing in her low-register. I know that falsetto ain't working for her but hey
Only men can sing in falsetto, no? Or is there something about Mary that we don't know? | |
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theAudience said: VoicesCarry said: I swear she's slowly getting even worse. She can sound OK on LP (with vocal adjustment and studio trickery, of course), but when she's live it's just horrible.
Yeah. What makes this such a shame is that I truly believe she could be better. It's about wanting to be better on her part. Does she even know she's sounding like this? tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm Mary's voice is very good, but I agree that lately she's been sounding terrible. I believe she doesn't try hard enough. I think she needs to have a vocal coach around her when she's singing songs that are not her own. She could indeed sing much better. Maybe she figures why bother when the likes of Jessica and Britney are making millions off their lousy voices. | |
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sextonseven said: Harlepolis said: Ok, I dig it betta when she's singing in her low-register. I know that falsetto ain't working for her but hey
Only men can sing in falsetto, no? Or is there something about Mary that we don't know? Soprano note, high note. Whateva you wanna call it! | |
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Hotlegs said: TA, I couldn't agree with you more. Her ass has been skirting by for years and she finally got caught. They should have her fuck up the song Living Just Enough For The City instead of DC.
Well really, she shouldn't be f'ng up any tune. Ya know? I guess the definition of "professional" has changed over the years. 
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"Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all." | |
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Harlepolis said: Ok, I dig it betta when she's singing in her low-register. I know that falsetto ain't working for her but hey
I prefer her lower register as well which is why I thought she was really gonna tear up which she did... just... in an aurally offensive sorta way. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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kisscamille said: I think she needs to have a vocal coach around her when she's singing songs that are not her own.
A vocal coach would be a good idea in general. 
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theAudience said: kisscamille said: I think she needs to have a vocal coach around her when she's singing songs that are not her own.
A vocal coach would be a good idea in general.
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http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm I really liked her vocals on the Share My World LP. But her latest was just.....I don't know, she sounded slightly *off* all the time. I don't think that voice is gonna age well, somehow.
Honestly, she sounds like she wants to be Mary Wells but completely misses the point. [Edited 12/9/04 13:36pm] | |
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Damn ya'll I should be wildin' on everybody around here but I'm tired lol and besides ya'll are slightly right.
I however think that her voice got stronger BUT she doesn't use it very well. Mary's singing voice is nothing to sneeze at. She just got to know her vocal limits thats all, she'll be fine that way. Throw a brick at me but I dug her Ray Charles tribute tho. [Edited 12/9/04 13:41pm] | |
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Harlepolis said: Damn ya'll
I should be wildin' on everybody around here but I'm tired lol and besides ya'll are slightly right.
I however think that her voice got stronger BUT she doesn't use it very well. Mary's singing voice is nothing to sneeze at. She just got to know her vocal limits thats all, she'll be fine that way. Throw a brick at me but I dug her Ray Charles tribute tho. I think most, if not all of us really love Mary. I know I do. And I bought all of her albums except her newest one. I kept waiting for any of the singles to impress me, and they just didn't. I know I'll get it one day for collector's purposes, but I feel like she's lost something lately. Hopefully she'll get it back soon. | |
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VoicesCarry said: I really liked her vocals on the Share My World LP. But her latest was just.....I don't know, she sounded slightly *off* all the time. I don't think that voice is gonna age well, somehow.
Honestly, she sounds like she wants to be Mary Wells but completely misses the point. That "slightly off" is the inability to hit those notes, or know what notes to hit. This is where the vocal coach would be invaluable. As far as her trying to be Mary Wells...she's got a looooong way to go. The delicacy of Two Lovers or My Guy? In the words of the great philosopher Homey D. Clown... 
... "I don't think so." 
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http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm [Edited 12/12/04 13:21pm] "Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all." | |
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theAudience said: VoicesCarry said: I really liked her vocals on the Share My World LP. But her latest was just.....I don't know, she sounded slightly *off* all the time. I don't think that voice is gonna age well, somehow.
Honestly, she sounds like she wants to be Mary Wells but completely misses the point. That "slightly off" is the inability to hit those notes, or know what notes to hit. This is where the vocal coach would be invaluable. As far as her trying to be Mary Wells...she's got a looooong way to go. The delicacy of Two Lovers or My Guy? In the words of the great philosopher Homey D. Clown...
... "I don't think so."
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http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm Exactly. | |
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