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Printableglamslamkid said: you only see him picking on singers and pop stars. if he's so bad, why don't he try to diss Nas or Jay-Z or somebody. he's a coward, plain and simple. if he's so good why doesn't he step his game up and go against some of the best. Britney, Christina, and Michael aren't rappers...how the hell are they gonna respond? And he has his own fucking issues to deal with. Why don't he rap about THAT shit. I really want somebody to blow his spot up. and it's sad that he has D12 and 50 Cent all up in his ass for a record deal. That's sad. I wouldn't stoop that low. I want to be a singer and all, but i'm not sucking Elton John's dick for a record deal any time soon.
uhm maybe becuase he gets along with them....he has had beef with other rappers...Nelly,Jemaine Dupri,St Lunatics....whats so funny is he don't do anything that half of you all don't do on these threads...TALK SHIT.. I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
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boriquateddy said: glamslamkid said: you only see him picking on singers and pop stars. if he's so bad, why don't he try to diss Nas or Jay-Z or somebody. he's a coward, plain and simple. if he's so good why doesn't he step his game up and go against some of the best. Britney, Christina, and Michael aren't rappers...how the hell are they gonna respond? And he has his own fucking issues to deal with. Why don't he rap about THAT shit. I really want somebody to blow his spot up. and it's sad that he has D12 and 50 Cent all up in his ass for a record deal. That's sad. I wouldn't stoop that low. I want to be a singer and all, but i'm not sucking Elton John's dick for a record deal any time soon.
uhm maybe becuase he gets along with them....he has had beef with other rappers...Nelly,Jemaine Dupri,St Lunatics....whats so funny is he don't do anything that half of you all don't do on these threads...TALK SHIT.. I KNEW IT YOU LIKE HIM you have a crush on eminem, thats why your defending him so much you even know his rap enemies   | |
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pkidwell said: It is not fair to compare the two really. Both are equally talented.
maybe on Bizarroworld Eminem is equally talented as Stevie Wonder, but not on this planet bub. |
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Sdldawn said: well there goes another few hundred thousand extra sold cd's...
 Excatly! The best thing to do is not pay attention to it! Shut the fuck up, please! Also...when excatly did Stevie see this video? I'm sorry but I scanned through the posts and no one else has said it. | |
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Marrk said: pkidwell said: It is not fair to compare the two really. Both are equally talented.
maybe on Bizarroworld Eminem is equally talented as Stevie Wonder, but not on this planet bub. Bizzaro, Bizzaro! | |
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VinnyM27 said: Sdldawn said: well there goes another few hundred thousand extra sold cd's...
Excatly! The best thing to do is not pay attention to it! Shut the fuck up, please! Also...when excatly did Stevie see this video? I'm sorry but I scanned through the posts and no one else has said it. Must scan harder. There's at least two others that preceded you. |
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Luv4oneanotha said: boriquateddy said: uhm maybe becuase he gets along with them....he has had beef with other rappers...Nelly,Jemaine Dupri,St Lunatics....whats so funny is he don't do anything that half of you all don't do on these threads...TALK SHIT.. I KNEW IT YOU LIKE HIM you have a crush on eminem, thats why your defending him so much you even know his rap enemies Sweetie Eminem is far from my cup of Joe...More L.L. and Morris Chesnut babydoll!!!I just keep up on hip hop ish thats how I know...I can easily say you and everybody else have a crush on MJ and thats why you all are butt hurt...but that would be rather elementary,and just plain absurd and silly. [Edited 12/6/04 13:55pm] besides I am more then certain you were joking... [Edited 12/6/04 13:55pm] I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
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VoicesCarry said: Luv4oneanotha said: Screw that
The bastard is nominated for grammy For Just Lose it? WTF IS THAT ABOUT! i don't even care about what stevie said i just want somebody to explain that to me! No, they said he likely would be when the nominations are announced tomorrow. And how do you explain the Grammys. Steely Dan album of the year? There is no explanation. Sure there is. The Grammy nominating comittee has a habit of trying to make up for years of ignoring people with some sort of cachet and longevity: Eric Clapton, Bonnie Raitt, Santana... This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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boriquateddy said: glamslamkid said: you only see him picking on singers and pop stars. if he's so bad, why don't he try to diss Nas or Jay-Z or somebody. he's a coward, plain and simple. if he's so good why doesn't he step his game up and go against some of the best. Britney, Christina, and Michael aren't rappers...how the hell are they gonna respond? And he has his own fucking issues to deal with. Why don't he rap about THAT shit. I really want somebody to blow his spot up. and it's sad that he has D12 and 50 Cent all up in his ass for a record deal. That's sad. I wouldn't stoop that low. I want to be a singer and all, but i'm not sucking Elton John's dick for a record deal any time soon.
uhm maybe becuase he gets along with them....he has had beef with other rappers...Nelly,Jemaine Dupri,St Lunatics....whats so funny is he don't do anything that half of you all don't do on these threads...TALK SHIT.. i said GO AGAINST THE BEST. JD AND NELLY AND THE ST. LUNATICS AREN'T SHIT. and actually, eminem does talk shit. his mouth is a fucking sewage system. go suck his dick already. GlamSlamKid...The resident clown on Prince.orgy
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VoicesCarry said: Luv4oneanotha said: no but steely dan? Album of the year? C'mon Thars right up there with Jethro Tull winning a metal Grammy its a WTF moment! 
Oh shit, I remember that! But still (and I'm sure theAudience will agree  ), any committee that nominates Backstreet Boys for album of the year cannot be taken seriously.
Or the fact that Britney has gotten two Best Female Pop Vocal Performance nominations. VC knows exactly where I was coming from. The Grammy committee are not very progressive in their selections and in the case of the Jethro Tull choice and Backstreet Boys/Britney nominations, possibly incoherent. The Steely Dan selection was nowhere near as silly. It was a superbly recorded set of songs. You may not like the material but that's another story. The Grammys are what they are, generally speaking, not much. tA  Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm [Edited 12/6/04 16:24pm] "Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all." | |
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I think people took strong offense to Em throwing up on Michael and misconstrued it as being a racist act. *shrug*
All I know is DMX had that really homophobic song out last year about him having no love for homo thugs blah blah and no one said anything about it. DMX got a pass after all that Eminem bruhaha a few years earlier. |
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VoicesCarry said: This thread has become drama central.
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EMINEMS RESPONSE 2 MJ SCANDAL:
from "Em Calls Paul" on Encore LP Aye yo Paul, It's Em I got your call about the Michael Jackson thing And I know that he's not 'thrilled' about the video What does he 'wanna be startin' somethin'?' Well I'll show him who's really 'bad' Paul, 'the way you make me feel' with these calls You should really take a look at the 'man in the mirror' And tell him to 'beat it' because I 'won't stop till I get enough' Do you 'remember the time' we were watching the 'Billy Jean' video? Well he'll always be that Michael to me And it doesn't matter if he's 'black or white' Because I 'can't stop loving him' and I hate plastic surgeons And I hope they all fucking die! How do you like that? And I like him, I like him a lot I want to touch him but I can't Excuse me, I'm taking a shit Sorry Anyways, call me back I have this idea about how I want to end the show So, hit me when you get this message fucker Oh, and by the way No I don't have a new gun [click] (goddamn it) Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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Marrk said: pkidwell said: It is not fair to compare the two really. Both are equally talented.
maybe on Bizarroworld Eminem is equally talented as Stevie Wonder, but not on this planet bub. Even in Bizarroworld i don't think Em stands a chance against Stevie in the talent department. Stevie was from a generation of musicians on a whole other dimension from what we've had since, people who could produce their own albums, write and arrange all their own material, and play all or most of the instrumentation and vocals. David Bowie was one of them, Todd Rundgren was one of them, Paul McCartney was one of them, Sly Stone, Larry Graham and Bootsy were all among them too. Prince, and later TTD, were the last of that breed. NO rapper can even claim an infinitessimal fraction of the amount of talent that the least of these guys have. In fact, in general, rappers aren't even real musicians: if you're not singing, not writing your own music and not playing any instruments, in what respect are you a "musician"? Some rappers can do these things, but most just use music recorded previously by other artists and not even necessarily in creative ways. | |
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okaypimpn said: They were talking about this on the Tom Joyner Morning Show this morning. Jay Anthony Brown made a joke about "If Stevie ain't mad about The Secret Life of Plants you know this has got to be a fluke!"
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jacktheimprovident said: Marrk said: maybe on Bizarroworld Eminem is equally talented as Stevie Wonder, but not on this planet bub. Even in Bizarroworld i don't think Em stands a chance against Stevie in the talent department. Stevie was from a generation of musicians on a whole other dimension from what we've had since, people who could produce their own albums, write and arrange all their own material, and play all or most of the instrumentation and vocals. David Bowie was one of them, Todd Rundgren was one of them, Paul McCartney was one of them, Sly Stone, Larry Graham and Bootsy were all among them too. Prince, and later TTD, were the last of that breed. NO rapper can even claim an infinitessimal fraction of the amount of talent that the least of these guys have. In fact, in general, rappers aren't even real musicians: if you're not singing, not writing your own music and not playing any instruments, in what respect are you a "musician"? Some rappers can do these things, but most just use music recorded previously by other artists and not even necessarily in creative ways. Well u did just say SOME which most rappers are not singers or artists..this is a old 1989 type argument and this is very old...u just have 2 look past that. Anyway, EM is not comparable 2 Stevie and / or Michael so..its like apples and oranges people..2004 rap and 70's 80's R&B are TOTAL different things. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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paisleypark4 said: jacktheimprovident said: Even in Bizarroworld i don't think Em stands a chance against Stevie in the talent department. Stevie was from a generation of musicians on a whole other dimension from what we've had since, people who could produce their own albums, write and arrange all their own material, and play all or most of the instrumentation and vocals. David Bowie was one of them, Todd Rundgren was one of them, Paul McCartney was one of them, Sly Stone, Larry Graham and Bootsy were all among them too. Prince, and later TTD, were the last of that breed. NO rapper can even claim an infinitessimal fraction of the amount of talent that the least of these guys have. In fact, in general, rappers aren't even real musicians: if you're not singing, not writing your own music and not playing any instruments, in what respect are you a "musician"? Some rappers can do these things, but most just use music recorded previously by other artists and not even necessarily in creative ways. Well u did just say SOME which most rappers are not singers or artists..this is a old 1989 type argument and this is very old...u just have 2 look past that. Anyway, EM is not comparable 2 Stevie and / or Michael so..its like apples and oranges people..2004 rap and 70's 80's R&B are TOTAL different things. If anything, the argument that rappers aren't musicians is even MORE applicable now than it was in 1989. Public Enemy at least used sampling inventively, rather than most of the the single-sample loop songs that dominate most MAINSTREAM rap. I do have an appreciation for hip-hop but most, if not all, MAINSTREAM hip-hop sucks and even most good hip-hop does not require the same level of musicianship or talent that Stevie Wonder, or any of the other musicians i named, have/had. Here's another thin, 70s and 80s R&B is not a completely different area, a great deal, perhaps the majority, of the music behind most hip-hop comes from 70s and 80s R&B. | |
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jacktheimprovident said: paisleypark4 said: Well u did just say SOME which most rappers are not singers or artists..this is a old 1989 type argument and this is very old...u just have 2 look past that. Anyway, EM is not comparable 2 Stevie and / or Michael so..its like apples and oranges people..2004 rap and 70's 80's R&B are TOTAL different things. If anything, the argument that rappers aren't musicians is even MORE applicable now than it was in 1989. Public Enemy at least used sampling inventively, rather than most of the the single-sample loop songs that dominate most MAINSTREAM rap. I do have an appreciation for hip-hop but most, if not all, MAINSTREAM hip-hop sucks and even most good hip-hop does not require the same level of musicianship or talent that Stevie Wonder, or any of the other musicians i named, have/had. Here's another thin, 70s and 80s R&B is not a completely different area, a great deal, perhaps the majority, of the music behind most hip-hop comes from 70s and 80s R&B. But to compare Grandmaster's "The Message" to "Cant Hold Me Down" by Puffy is out of the question..so dont even try it. Eminem to Stevie WONDER!!?? Have U lost your mind? Why are they even being talked about in the same paragraph? May as well compare Steven King to Chingy..it just dont go 2gether. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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paisleypark4 said: jacktheimprovident said: If anything, the argument that rappers aren't musicians is even MORE applicable now than it was in 1989. Public Enemy at least used sampling inventively, rather than most of the the single-sample loop songs that dominate most MAINSTREAM rap. I do have an appreciation for hip-hop but most, if not all, MAINSTREAM hip-hop sucks and even most good hip-hop does not require the same level of musicianship or talent that Stevie Wonder, or any of the other musicians i named, have/had. Here's another thin, 70s and 80s R&B is not a completely different area, a great deal, perhaps the majority, of the music behind most hip-hop comes from 70s and 80s R&B. But to compare Grandmaster's "The Message" to "Cant Hold Me Down" by Puffy is out of the question..so dont even try it. Eminem to Stevie WONDER!!?? Have U lost your mind? Why are they even being talked about in the same paragraph? May as well compare Steven King to Chingy..it just dont go 2gether. I think we're suffering from a bit of miscommunication . My whole rant was in reaction to whoever said that Eminem and Stevie Wonder were "equally talented" | |
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glamslamkid said:[quote] boriquateddy said: uhm maybe becuase he gets along with them....he has had beef with other rappers...Nelly,Jemaine Dupri,St Lunatics....whats so funny is he don't do anything that half of you all don't do on these threads...TALK SHIT.. i said GO AGAINST THE BEST. JD AND NELLY AND THE ST. LUNATICS AREN'T SHIT. and actually, eminem does talk shit. his mouth is a fucking sewage system. go suck his dick already.[/q relax cunt!!!!! I will suck his dick after your HOEBAG mama doest it first and gives me feed back on the vanilla cock...TRICK!!!!! I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
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Em has made his career slammin' people in his songs. Why should he stop
now??? Or should he just stop slammin' black folks??? HYPECRITICAL... 
Stevie and MJ...shut da hell up! Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind. | |
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boriquateddy said:[quote] glamslamkid said: boriquateddy said: uhm maybe becuase he gets along with them....he has had beef with other rappers...Nelly,Jemaine Dupri,St Lunatics....whats so funny is he don't do anything that half of you all don't do on these threads...TALK SHIT.. i said GO AGAINST THE BEST. JD AND NELLY AND THE ST. LUNATICS AREN'T SHIT. and actually, eminem does talk shit. his mouth is a fucking sewage system. go suck his dick already.[/q relax cunt!!!!! I will suck his dick after your HOEBAG mama doest it first and gives me feed back on the vanilla cock...TRICK!!!!! NICE TRY. NOT OFFENDED  YOU ARE NOW MY BITCH. WORSHIP MY COCK DAMMIT. GlamSlamKid...The resident clown on Prince.orgy
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paisleypark4 said: EMINEMS RESPONSE 2 MJ SCANDAL:
from "Em Calls Paul" on Encore LP Aye yo Paul, It's Em I got your call about the Michael Jackson thing And I know that he's not 'thrilled' about the video What does he 'wanna be startin' somethin'?' Well I'll show him who's really 'bad' Paul, 'the way you make me feel' with these calls You should really take a look at the 'man in the mirror' And tell him to 'beat it' because I 'won't stop till I get enough' Do you 'remember the time' we were watching the 'Billy Jean' video? Well he'll always be that Michael to me And it doesn't matter if he's 'black or white' Because I 'can't stop loving him' and I hate plastic surgeons And I hope they all fucking die! How do you like that? And I like him, I like him a lot I want to touch him but I can't Excuse me, I'm taking a shit Sorry Anyways, call me back I have this idea about how I want to end the show So, hit me when you get this message fucker Oh, and by the way No I don't have a new gun [click] (goddamn it) is this really on the album? if so, this is my main complaint about Eminim. manufactured controversy. not so much the controversy itself, but that he's already got the response laid out before the controversy. if this is on the album, then apparently he knew that the video was going to cause hysteria, so the album that the actual song that the video is for has its own response on it. it's like when he only had one hit out in the early days and he was already on to singing about how controversial he is and how misunderstood and mistreated he is. lord. the gaybashing, the mysoginy, the supposed racism... none of that is more annoying than the fact that he's only controversial so that he'll have a pity-party "poor me" song to follow it up with. "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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GrayKing said: paisleypark4 said: EMINEMS RESPONSE 2 MJ SCANDAL:
from "Em Calls Paul" on Encore LP Aye yo Paul, It's Em I got your call about the Michael Jackson thing And I know that he's not 'thrilled' about the video What does he 'wanna be startin' somethin'?' Well I'll show him who's really 'bad' Paul, 'the way you make me feel' with these calls You should really take a look at the 'man in the mirror' And tell him to 'beat it' because I 'won't stop till I get enough' Do you 'remember the time' we were watching the 'Billy Jean' video? Well he'll always be that Michael to me And it doesn't matter if he's 'black or white' Because I 'can't stop loving him' and I hate plastic surgeons And I hope they all fucking die! How do you like that? And I like him, I like him a lot I want to touch him but I can't Excuse me, I'm taking a shit Sorry Anyways, call me back I have this idea about how I want to end the show So, hit me when you get this message fucker Oh, and by the way No I don't have a new gun [click] (goddamn it) is this really on the album? if so, this is my main complaint about Eminim. manufactured controversy. not so much the controversy itself, but that he's already got the response laid out before the controversy. if this is on the album, then apparently he knew that the video was going to cause hysteria, so the album that the actual song that the video is for has its own response on it. Exactly.. this is what his persona and image feeds upon, and celebs and fans feed on it.. its very simply actually | |
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I think marshal should write a dis song about stevie (who I love) and see how well that would go over. Eminem wants to be as big as Michael was or still is in some respect.
p.s. I love how phony Michael fans (like em) invoke their love for thriller and bad without mentioning or knowing his 10 years of legendary work before thriller. Just cause you bought purple rain or thriller doesn’t mean your a fan of prince or a fan of Michael. | |
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lilgish said: I think marshal should write a dis song about stevie (who I love) and see how well that would go over. Eminem wants to be as big as Michael was or still is in some respect.
p.s. I love how phony Michael fans (like em) invoke their love for thriller and bad without mentioning or knowing his 10 years of legendary work before thriller. Just cause you bought purple rain or thriller doesn’t mean your a fan of prince or a fan of Michael. of course you don't have to be obssessed with the minutiae of someone's entire catalog in order to dig them either. "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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boriquateddy said: Luv4oneanotha said: I KNEW IT YOU LIKE HIM you have a crush on eminem, thats why your defending him so much you even know his rap enemies Sweetie Eminem is far from my cup of Joe...More L.L. and Morris Chesnut babydoll!!!I just keep up on hip hop ish thats how I know...I can easily say you and everybody else have a crush on MJ and thats why you all are butt hurt...but that would be rather elementary,and just plain absurd and silly. [Edited 12/6/04 13:55pm] besides I am more then certain you were joking... [Edited 12/6/04 13:55pm] As much as Mj freakishly reminds me of a female
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lilgish said: I think marshal should write a dis song about stevie (who I love) and see how well that would go over. Eminem wants to be as big as Michael was or still is in some respect.
p.s. I love how phony Michael fans (like em) invoke their love for thriller and bad without mentioning or knowing his 10 years of legendary work before thriller. Just cause you bought purple rain or thriller doesn’t mean your a fan of prince or a fan of Michael. I cant say the same for prince, but trust me homey, im a Michael Jackson Fan. You dont have to meet your criteria necessarily to be a fan but i see where your coming from. Justin Timberdick is an example of what you said (me taking this thread right off point but hey) [Edited 12/6/04 17:49pm] | |
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