Luv4oneanotha said:

btw- weird al did a backing vocal for ben folds new album.. song is called Time.. heard it was a strange piano track with kickass harmonies..

Sdldawn said:

He made the song, but not the video. Em wouldn't let him.

VoicesCarry said:

Fuck you, racist!

VoicesCarry said:

True in most respects, but you sound limited to whom you know. I'm almost positive that if you researched popular music trends (Rap in question) in relation to economic habitats and race habitats, you would find a stronger comparision to what you orignally assumed. Urban ghettos, suburbanites, and rural bastards are all aware of the numerous artists and various styles of music existing today. Unfortunately, the majority of music the average individual listens to is the commerical music. Whether it be rap (LL Cool J), jazz (Miles Davis), blues (Buddy Guy), rock (Aerosmith), surf (Dick Dale), reggae (Bob Marley), metal (Metallica), alternative (Green day), etc...

So in conclusion, I strongly believe that both the, "confused white kids" from the suburbs and the "smarter" black kids listen to the same music generally in respect to commercial rap, ie; TuPac, R Kelly, Ememim, WuTang, Beastie Boys, Jay Z, etc... By the way, black people have been known to live in the suburbs too... just in case you were ignorant to the fact.

WildStyle said:

True that.

boriquateddy said:

True, I believe we are addressing the wrong people here.

MrSquiggle said:

It's not racism, it's ignorance. It is obvious that someone is not in tune with their surrounding community nor has any integrity to their opinion.

Has Stevie even seen the video?

Why do I get the feeling that this thread will eventually get locked?

No offense to stevie, but how can he comment on this.....it is just fucking stupid!

IMHO I believe Em, talented as he may or may not be, is simply a school yard bully that enjoys kicking someone when they are down. It's simple like that. He shows that he does not appreciate being mocked himself by any other artist (Weird Al) and defends himself like a bully who needs a good beating or defeat. I don't know much about Weird Al's marketed audience, but would I be wrong to assume that it is the same younger generation that listens to this commercial rap and pop?

I agree with the last statement. I love Stevie too but he is pretty much in the same geezer status as Steely Dan, with all proper respect given. Eminem has taken over. I love the fact that people get bothered by that. I love the fact that the best selling rapper is white, and also happens to be talented. How funny is that? When people bitch and moan, it just shows how racist this country is, black and white, divided we stand. United States of Division. Let's hear more racist comments.....c'mon.....you know you can't hold it in.....

thesexofit said:

No. He's blind you ass. j/k. But more that likely he has heard a verbal or written detailed account of the video in question.

I dare Eminem to say something bad about Stevie,or to spoof him in a video

Spoofs of Stevie r best done by Damon Wayans.....

DavidEye said:

Actually, I'd love for Eminem to DARE try and do that!

Let's end that career, baby!

Remember Stevie at the Janet jakson MTV icon (u won't se that on MTV again):-


"wheres the cue cards?".....pretty funny man!

DavidEye said:

That would be touchy grounds. I don't know too many adults who would make fun of or parody any handicapped individual, whether it be Stevie or your neighbor. Is it not a moral question? Pedophiles, terrorists, relatives, politicians, pee wee herman are okay though, although immature.

pkidwell said:

How dare you refer to Stevie as a "geezer"! He has recorded albums and songs that can rightfully be called "classics".His music will live on forever.How many of Eminem's songs are "classics"? Eminem specializes in shock tactics.It's controversial and it gets people talking,but that's all it does.Stevie is a real musician,composer,songwriter,producer who creates real music,and he doesn't have to rely on shock tactics to do it.Eminem has not "taken over",he's simply the flavor of the moment,as is Britney Spears,Justin Timberlake and others who will be soon forgotten.

JANFAN4L said:

How dare you refer to Stevie as a "geezer"! He has recorded albums and songs that can rightfully be called "classics".His music will live on forever.How many of Eminem's songs are "classics"? Eminem specializes in shock tactics.It's controversial and it gets people talking,but that's all it does.Stevie is a real musician,composer,songwriter,producer who creates real music,and he doesn't have to rely on shock tactics to do it.Eminem has not "taken over",he's simply the flavor of the moment,as is Britney Spears,Justin Timberlake and others who will be soon forgotten.[/quote]

Now I agree with the last statement.

Popel hav spoofed him already, with the head thing and all.....y'd he spoof Hammer anyway?

thesexofit said:

Hammer is handicapped too... with that shuffle thing right?

The poor blind geezer. His best days are behind him. That is what I mean by geezer. Kind of like Steely Dan. Sure they still kick ass live but they are not exactly making the kind of music that got them famous to begin with. Eminem is still going strong, fresh and new. I'm sure his day will come too and we'll be calling him a geezer.

thesexofit said:

read what you typed, that's what's fucking stupid. Stevie would have had a pretty short career if he only sang about things he can see. i.e darkness only. But no, he's sang songs about leaves turning brown in autumn, looking in mirrors etc. by your reckoning, how can he do that? isn't that equally as stupid?

Of course he can comment. Godamn.

I really wish some people on here would lose their fingers in an horrendous accident.



that was my 6000th post, i think it was a fairly good one.
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VoicesCarry said:

It's a good album.

pkidwell said:

Yes,Eminem is still going strong (in a commercial sense),but how many of his songs will be regarded as "classics" 25 years from now? Will people still be playing "Just Lose Yourself" in ten years? Will folks even care about him? Damn near EVERY Stevie Wonder single from the 70s is now righfully regarded as a "classic". Stevie's music has stood the test of time and you know why? Real music never goes out of style.Trends come and go,but let's see if Eminem becomes half the legend that Stevie is.Id rather listen to a multi-talented "old geezer" than a foul-mouthed rapper who must resort to shock tactics in order to sell records.



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I can't stand MJ but I' d would like if in the future Em's daughter becomes a crack addict whore and that a new artist makes fun of this in a video

jn2 said:

what the hell is wrong with people?

i don't like Eminem but damn!

I have the feeling that something like this will happen, sooner or later we will see Em on tv