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Reply #60 posted 12/10/04 3:44am

JANFAN4L

DavidEye said:

I have a theory.There are certain Janet fans on this site who probably feel that Madonna gets a "free pass" for things that Janet gets criticized for.I've heard more than one Janet fan say things like "Madonna kisses Britney on TV and that's acceptable,but Janet bares her boob on TV and she suffers a backlash".JanFan,in particular,seems to be really bitter,although I'm not sure if it's because of this particular incident.


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Let's KEEP IT REAL for a second.

I am not taking any of what goes on in here personally. I'm just typing on a message board, period.

Certain peeps feel the need to bring Madonna's name into Janet's threads simply to antagonize. Some of you Madonna fans on here antagonize others, then have the nerve to go around and call us "bitter" when we simply respond back.

I couldn't care less about Madonna. WE RARELY, if ever, bring her name up in a Janet thread on here -- YOU GUYS do that. If one of us responds back, some of you guys get heated. I'm not on Madonna like that, and if you check my track record on the org I rarely post in Maddy threads. The Janet fans on the org rarely disrupt your convos with any ill or negative intentions.

Those who want to talk about Janet are talking about her -- point blank. Some Madonna fans on here, however, feel threatened by that and bring her name up in a Janet thread to just for the sake of antagonizing.

Wonder why Madonna's name seems to always be brought up in a Janet thread as of late? IT'S YOU TURKEYS THAT BRING HER NAME UP. Don't act all "brand new" like we're just soooo "bitter" or whatever, c'mon? hmm

Who's making more of a fuss about this: us or you guys? It seems like a lot of those who intentionally bring Madonna's name up out of spite somehow get razzled when we launch back -- then one of you even had the nerve to get über-personal and throw a steaming orgNote at me. rolleyes

A sense of humor should be applied to any of these dealings. If I trade wits with GrayKing, you, or whoever -- it's all in jest. I know who I love, you know who you love.

No need for hateration, holleration in this dancery.no no no!


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Reply #61 posted 12/10/04 3:47am

VoicesCarry

DavidEye said:

sextonseven said:



We should have a contest to see in how many posts will the next Janet thread be hijacked by Madonna.



The only reason I even click on the Janet threads is because I know Madonna will be discussed too.


eek Yeah, sure. rolleyes
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Reply #62 posted 12/10/04 3:49am

VoicesCarry

DavidEye said:

estelle1981 said:

eek Okay, totally lost. Isn't this a Janet Thread? Why is Madonna's name in this? Janet fans and Madonna fans should be comparing them on the basis that they are both strong women who know what they want and they both are icons in the music industry. They're both great in their own rights. Both have amazingly memorable videos and songs and both have done a little lip-syncing in their time, so neither one is above the other, IMO. Janet started her career with albums that contained more substance than her current ones and Madonna did just the opposite, so I think they should get together and do something amazing. Duet anyone, biggrin



There are certain folks on this site who always feel the need to bring up Madonna's name on a Janet thread.It makes no sense to me.When I'm on a Madonna thread,I don't even think about Janet lol
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Certain people like.....you? lol
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Reply #63 posted 12/10/04 3:50am

DavidEye

There's no need to explain or justify why Madonna's name keeps popping up on the Janet threads.I'm actually not complaining.I find it amusing lol
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Reply #64 posted 12/10/04 3:53am

VoicesCarry

estelle1981 said:

DavidEye said:






I have a theory.There are certain Janet fans on this site who probably feel that Madonna gets a "free pass" for things that Janet gets criticized for.I've heard more than one Janet fan say things like "Madonna kisses Britney on TV and that's acceptable,but Janet bares her boob on TV and she suffers a backlash".JanFan,in particular,seems to be really bitter,although I'm not sure if it's because of this particular incident.


I don't see why either incident would be considered worse than the other. They were both publicity stunts that got them attention. Janet's was just more blown out of proportion, considering that I've seen Pamela Anderson's and Lil Kim's nipples on many red carpet events that come on the same channel as the Super Bowl. I remember watching the Nickelodeon Kid's Choice Awards on Nickelodeon (a children's network) waaay back in 2000 and watching Britney Spears gyrate around for 4 minutes in a white, crop top with her nipples showing through, yet her album sold over 10 million copies. Stupid parents!!! I was just pissed that Janet was pointed out as being a bad person for a 3 second nipple slip when anyone who watched that garbage half-time show knows that it wasn't kid-friendly way before Nipplegate even happened. The line up was P. Diddy, Diddy, Puffy....whatever he wants to call himself today, Nelly, and Kid Rock. I watched it and was more offended by Nelly's constant crotch grabbing, Diddy's incessant groping of his dancers, and Kid Rocks defamation of the American flag, which he happily turned into a poncho, than I was by the stupid little nipple slip. I was even more pissed that Justin wasn't man enough to not agree to do the stunt to begin with. A real gentleman (which he has claimed to be in the past) wouldn't have agreed to the stunt. Real gentlemen don't grab women's chests to rip off their cloths, but Janet is the only evil one. It was such a double standard moment that I wanted to puck, especially since nobody seemed to protest the male streaker whose slong was banging against his leg as he was running across the field for almost five minutes, in clear view of the exact same children who were soo damaged by a Janet's nipple. All that Super Bowl stunt did for me was help me see that many parent's are stupid as rocks.


Exactly thumbs up!!

I love how Madonna nuts contend that, "well, it was at the VMAs, so it was tasteful and nothing like the SuperBowl, which was intended for a family audience!"

(a) If you think the halftime show is actually intended for a family audience, you're a moron.

(b) Kids aren't the target audience of the VMA's?
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Reply #65 posted 12/10/04 3:53am

DavidEye

VoicesCarry said:

DavidEye said:




There are certain folks on this site who always feel the need to bring up Madonna's name on a Janet thread.It makes no sense to me.When I'm on a Madonna thread,I don't even think about Janet lol
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Certain people like.....you? lol



Show me a Janet thread where I brought Madonna's name up first lol

I'm perfectly willing to discuss only Janet on a Janet thread,and only Madonna on a Madonna thread.Too bad other people can't stay on topic.
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Reply #66 posted 12/10/04 3:54am

VoicesCarry

DavidEye said:

VoicesCarry said:



Certain people like.....you? lol



Show me a Janet thread where I brought Madonna's name up first lol

I'm perfectly willing to discuss only Janet on a Janet thread,and only Madonna on a Madonna thread.Too bad other people can't stay on topic.


As soon as Madonna's name is mentioned, even in passing, you're here writing expository defensive essays. lol

That's all I'm saying.
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Reply #67 posted 12/10/04 3:55am

DavidEye

VoicesCarry said:

DavidEye said:




The only reason I even click on the Janet threads is because I know Madonna will be discussed too.


eek Yeah, sure. rolleyes



You don't seriously believe that I click on the Janet threads because I'm a diehard fan of hers? lol
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Reply #68 posted 12/10/04 3:57am

VoicesCarry

DavidEye said:

VoicesCarry said:



eek Yeah, sure. rolleyes



You don't seriously believe that I click on the Janet threads because I'm a diehard fan of hers? lol


Nope, you do it to defend Madonna. Why else do you click on a thread? wink
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Reply #69 posted 12/10/04 3:57am

DavidEye

VoicesCarry said:

DavidEye said:




Show me a Janet thread where I brought Madonna's name up first lol

I'm perfectly willing to discuss only Janet on a Janet thread,and only Madonna on a Madonna thread.Too bad other people can't stay on topic.


As soon as Madonna's name is mentioned, even in passing, you're here writing expository defensive essays. lol

That's all I'm saying.



well,yeah lol

If someone else brings her name up,or disses her,I'm gonna respond.
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Reply #70 posted 12/10/04 3:58am

DavidEye

VoicesCarry said:

DavidEye said:




You don't seriously believe that I click on the Janet threads because I'm a diehard fan of hers? lol


Nope, you do it to defend Madonna.



That's correct.We all defend our favorite artists lol
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Reply #71 posted 12/10/04 4:00am

VoicesCarry

DavidEye said:

VoicesCarry said:



As soon as Madonna's name is mentioned, even in passing, you're here writing expository defensive essays. lol

That's all I'm saying.



well,yeah lol

If someone else brings her name up,or disses her,I'm gonna respond.


Madonna's name will get mentioned because she's a similar artist (whatever you think about her artistic abilities, she's still a similar artist).

Maybe if you just let it go once in a while, all these threads wouldn't devolve into Madonna discussions. wink
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Reply #72 posted 12/10/04 4:04am

DavidEye

JANFAN4L said:

DavidEye said:

I have a theory.There are certain Janet fans on this site who probably feel that Madonna gets a "free pass" for things that Janet gets criticized for.I've heard more than one Janet fan say things like "Madonna kisses Britney on TV and that's acceptable,but Janet bares her boob on TV and she suffers a backlash".JanFan,in particular,seems to be really bitter,although I'm not sure if it's because of this particular incident.


::pauses the tape::

Let's KEEP IT REAL for a second.

I am not taking any of what goes on in here personally. I'm just typing on a message board, period.

Certain peeps feel the need to bring Madonna's name into Janet's threads simply to antagonize. Some of you Madonna fans on here antagonize others, then have the nerve to go around and call us "bitter" when we simply respond back.

I couldn't care less about Madonna. WE RARELY, if ever, bring her name up in a Janet thread on here -- YOU GUYS do that. If one of us responds back, some of you guys get heated. I'm not on Madonna like that, and if you check my track record on the org I rarely post in Maddy threads. The Janet fans on the org rarely disrupt your convos with any ill or negative intentions.

Those who want to talk about Janet are talking about her -- point blank. Some Madonna fans on here, however, feel threatened by that and bring her name up in a Janet thread to just for the sake of anatognizing.

Wonder why Madonna's name seems to always be brought up in a Janet thread as of late? IT'S YOU TURKEYS THAT BRING HER NAME UP. Don't act "brand new" like we're just soooo "bitter" or whatever, c'mon? hmm

Who's making more of a fuss about this: us or you guys? It seems like a lot of those who intentionally bring Madonna's name up out of spite somehow get razzled when we launch back -- then one of you even had the nerve to get über-personal and throw a steaming orgNote at me. rolleyes

A sense of humor should be applied to any of these dealings. If I trade wits with GrayKing, you, or whoever -- it's all in jest. I know who I love, you know who you love.

No need for hateration, holleration in this dancery.no no no!




Just for the record,I NEVER bring Madonna's name up in a Janet thread.On a recent 'Damita Jo' thread,I was discussing the album and giving my honest thoughts on it.Someone else responded by asking if I was able to "predict Madonna's backlash"...lol...that happens alot on the Janet threads.If you say anything less-than-flattering about Janet,one of her fans will fire back with a diss at Madonna.I'm perfectly willing to stay on topic.


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Reply #73 posted 12/10/04 4:06am

VoicesCarry

DavidEye said:

JANFAN4L said:



::pauses the tape::

Let's KEEP IT REAL for a second.

I am not taking any of what goes on in here personally. I'm just typing on a message board, period.

Certain peeps feel the need to bring Madonna's name into Janet's threads simply to antagonize. Some of you Madonna fans on here antagonize others, then have the nerve to go around and call us "bitter" when we simply respond back.

I couldn't care less about Madonna. WE RARELY, if ever, bring her name up in a Janet thread on here -- YOU GUYS do that. If one of us responds back, some of you guys get heated. I'm not on Madonna like that, and if you check my track record on the org I rarely post in Maddy threads. The Janet fans on the org rarely disrupt your convos with any ill or negative intentions.

Those who want to talk about Janet are talking about her -- point blank. Some Madonna fans on here, however, feel threatened by that and bring her name up in a Janet thread to just for the sake of anatognizing.

Wonder why Madonna's name seems to always be brought up in a Janet thread as of late? IT'S YOU TURKEYS THAT BRING HER NAME UP. Don't act "brand new" like we're just soooo "bitter" or whatever, c'mon? hmm

Who's making more of a fuss about this: us or you guys? It seems like a lot of those who intentionally bring Madonna's name up out of spite somehow get razzled when we launch back -- then one of you even had the nerve to get über-personal and throw a steaming orgNote at me. rolleyes

A sense of humor should be applied to any of these dealings. If I trade wits with GrayKing, you, or whoever -- it's all in jest. I know who I love, you know who you love.

No need for hateration, holleration in this dancery.no no no!




Just for the record,I NEVER bring Madonna's name up in a Janet thread.On a recent 'Damita Jo' thread,I was discussing her album and giving my thoughts on it.Someone else responded by asking if I was able to "predict Madonna's backlash"...lol...that happens alot on the Janet threads.If you say anything less-than-flattering about Janet,one of her fans will fire back with a diss at Madonna.I'm perfectly willing to stay on topic.


Actually, that was just a joke on my part considering your Madonna fandom. I think you took it seriously. Oops!
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Reply #74 posted 12/10/04 4:08am

DavidEye

VoicesCarry said:

DavidEye said:




well,yeah lol

If someone else brings her name up,or disses her,I'm gonna respond.


Madonna's name will get mentioned because she's a similar artist (whatever you think about her artistic abilities, she's still a similar artist).

Maybe if you just let it go once in a while, all these threads wouldn't devolve into Madonna discussions. wink



Oh,it's okay.I really don't mind if these threads turn into Madonna discussions.Like I said,I find it rather amusing lol
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Reply #75 posted 12/10/04 4:08am

VoicesCarry

DavidEye said:

VoicesCarry said:



Madonna's name will get mentioned because she's a similar artist (whatever you think about her artistic abilities, she's still a similar artist).

Maybe if you just let it go once in a while, all these threads wouldn't devolve into Madonna discussions. wink



Oh,it's okay.I really don't mind if these threads turn into Madonna discussions.Like I said,I find it rather amusing lol


Keyword is devolve razz

Here's an experiment: if you don't enter a Janet thread, will it devolve into a Madonna discussion? Let's experiment and find out..... wink
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Reply #76 posted 12/10/04 4:14am

JANFAN4L

DavidEye said:

Just for the record,I NEVER bring Madonna's name up in a Janet thread. On a recent 'Damita Jo' thread,I was discussing the album and giving my honest thoughts on it.Someone else responded by asking if I was able to "predict Madonna's backlash"...lol...that happens alot on the Janet threads.If you say anything less-than-flattering about Janet,one of her fans will fire back with a diss at Madonna.I'm perfectly willing to stay on topic.


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Same thing can be said about a Janet fan who makes a less-than-flattering remark about Madonna or her music in one of her threads, one of you guys will fire back with a diss at Janet.

It's cyclical.

Also, it's not simply about "bringing up her name." You feel the need to rub it in with the "HEHE -- this turned into a Maddy discussion!" then the hate ball starts growing larger and larger.
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Reply #77 posted 12/10/04 4:17am

ABeautifulOne

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y r we mentioning the old tit?
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Reply #78 posted 12/10/04 4:17am

DavidEye

VoicesCarry said:

DavidEye said:




Oh,it's okay.I really don't mind if these threads turn into Madonna discussions.Like I said,I find it rather amusing lol


Keyword is devolve razz

Here's an experiment: if you don't enter a Janet thread, will it devolve into a Madonna discussion? Let's experiment and find out..... wink



Nah,I can't resist clicking on the Janet threads.This is too much fun! lol
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Reply #79 posted 12/10/04 4:21am

JANFAN4L

ABeautifulOne said:

y r we mentioning the old tit?


I don't know, I guess Maddy has more staying power than we thought 'round here. :shrugs:
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Reply #80 posted 12/10/04 4:25am

ABeautifulOne

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i hate her sooo much she is boring 2 me.the only thing ive apreciated 4m her was take a bow
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Reply #81 posted 12/10/04 4:26am

VoicesCarry

DavidEye said:

VoicesCarry said:



Keyword is devolve razz

Here's an experiment: if you don't enter a Janet thread, will it devolve into a Madonna discussion? Let's experiment and find out..... wink



Nah,I can't resist clicking on the Janet threads.This is too much fun! lol


Well then we know why they always turn into Madonna threads: DavidEye!

Keep it up.
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Reply #82 posted 12/10/04 4:29am

DavidEye

VoicesCarry said:

DavidEye said:




Nah,I can't resist clicking on the Janet threads.This is too much fun! lol


Well then we know why they always turn into Madonna threads: DavidEye!

Keep it up.


lol yeah,blame the ONLY person who was willing to stay on topic
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Reply #83 posted 12/10/04 4:31am

DavidEye

ABeautifulOne said:

i hate her sooo much she is boring 2 me.the only thing ive apreciated 4m her was take a bow



"Take A Bow" is fantastic,isn't it? music
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Reply #84 posted 12/10/04 5:02am

VoicesCarry

DavidEye said:

VoicesCarry said:



Well then we know why they always turn into Madonna threads: DavidEye!

Keep it up.


lol yeah,blame the ONLY person who was willing to stay on topic


How did you even attempt to stay on topic? confused
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Reply #85 posted 12/10/04 5:24am

JANFAN4L

DavidEye said:

ABeautifulOne said:

i hate her sooo much she is boring 2 me.the only thing ive apreciated 4m her was take a bow



"Take A Bow" is fantastic,isn't it? music


You forgot a part. razz
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Reply #86 posted 12/10/04 3:21pm

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DavidEye said:

ABeautifulOne said:

i hate her sooo much she is boring 2 me.the only thing ive apreciated 4m her was take a bow



"Take A Bow" is fantastic,isn't it? music



yeah on a rainy day i have it on a mix cd 4 rainy dayz and i enjoy it
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Reply #87 posted 12/10/04 3:35pm

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DavidEye said:

I have a theory.There are certain Janet fans on this site who probably feel that Madonna gets a "free pass" for things that Janet gets criticized for.I've heard more than one Janet fan say things like "Madonna kisses Britney on TV and that's acceptable,but Janet bares her boob on TV and she suffers a backlash".



well, the bigger thing is they actually thinks she gets a free pass for any of it. 14 years, and the things she's done since have finally gotten the Sex book off of everyone's mind (even though it's referenced in pretty much every article mentioning the children's books). But people seem to forget that after Sex, Erotica, Body of Evidence, some of the controversy surrounding the Girlie Show, hell, even all they way through spring/summer 1994 after the Letterman incident, she was basically public enemy #1 as far as entertainers go.

and she didn't get pass on the Britney kiss either. there was quite an uproar about it. what saved her with that is that 1) there was a segment of the population that thought it was hot and 2) she did it in a forum where there's things are going to happen (and are welcomed). Janet pulled her stunt on BROADCAST TV (and there IS a big difference, regulation-wise between cable and broadcast TV) in front of what everyone knows is the biggest family viewing audience of the year.

Madonna rarely gets a pass on this stuff. But she knows the time and place to do it. You haven't seen her with her tits hanging out at any of her Grammy appearances in the last 5 years, or either of the times she performed at the Oscars.
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Reply #88 posted 12/10/04 6:51pm

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DavidEye said:

JANFAN4L said:



Inserting a coffee enema (for colon cleansing) is similar to anal rimming?

One is to detoxify the body for health purposes and promote better hygiene, the other is purely for sexual gratification and (oral-anal contact) can lead to contracting sexually-transmitted diseases (STDs) such as gonorrhea, herpes, hepatitis A, intestinal parasites, syphilis, etc.

The former is performed in its appropriate place and is encouraged medically for cleanliness reasons.

Forgive anyone that uses Summer's Eve, tampons, maxipads, Preparation H and the like -- surely they are vulgar people in DavidEye's view! shake



rolleyes like I said before,Janet probably "tosses salad" as well.The only difference is that she isn't bold enough to be photographed while doing it lol



Janet as far as I know is an active member of the Leather Community... along wtih Maraget Cho and a few other people who aren't as vocal about it. Now I'm thinking they have rimmed a few people in their time.

I'm sorry JanFan is Sexually repressed in a box... but she needs to stop insluting other people's lives. Many people have gone to jail and died in order for the furture Leather Generations to have some respect.

If you do not understand the reasons, never expereienced, than you shouldn't make comments about it.

If you're only way of making yourself feel better about your liking Janet is to call another artist a shit eating queen than you need to find some help or a different release.

Yes I AM OFFENED and OUTRAGED by the out right disprect for my Life Commuinty and Family of Leather.
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Reply #89 posted 12/10/04 6:54pm

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JANFAN4L said:

DavidEye said:




Oh please! You think Janet isn't freaky when it comes to sex? I bet she "tosses salad" as well.And I'm sure she's still inserting coffee enemas up her ass too! lol


Inserting a coffee enema (for colon cleansing) is similar to anal rimming?

One is to detoxify the body for health purposes and promote better hygiene, the other is purely for sexual gratification and (oral-anal contact) can lead to contracting sexually-transmitted diseases (STDs) such as gonorrhea, herpes, hepatitis A, intestinal parasites, syphilis, etc.

The former is performed in its appropriate place and is encouraged medically for cleanliness reasons.

Forgive anyone that uses Summer's Eve, tampons, maxipads, Preparation H and the like -- surely they are vulgar people in DavidEye's view! shake



Gonorrhea herepes Hep A B C syphillis chyillmyida HIV Yeast Infections Bladder infections... can also and more than likely be passed by oral or vaginal or anal sex...

If you are that afriad use protection or abstain
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